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Samsung to discontinue its camera sector and focus on appliances and smartphones

Started Feb 4, 2016 | Discussions
ShootMeAlready Senior Member • Posts: 1,031
Re: Samsung to discontinue its camera sector and focus on appliances and smartphones

If you see Psy with an NX anything around his neck, then you know Samsung is back in the camera business until then they are shooting rotting produce in 4K in fridges.

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rykn21x New Member • Posts: 1
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Hi there i'm new in dpreview and is looking for some information regarding samsung nx cameras.. i just want to ask if it still make sense to buy an nx300 camera with bundled 2 lenses for the price of $400 (i live in doha qatar).  I'm reading all kinds of stuff about samsung closing the nx line (which i came across here) and is now mixed feeling about buying the nx300 (brand new).

I played around the nx300 and other dslr (nikon d7000 and canon 60d and sony a6000) but really loved the simplicity and picture output of the nx300 better and the price point is cheaper than those 3 brands.

I'm sorry if this has been asked before I just wanted to know everyone's opinion considering the news...

thanks!

photoreddi Veteran Member • Posts: 7,973
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rykn21x wrote:

Hi there i'm new in dpreview and is looking for some information regarding samsung nx cameras.. i just want to ask if it still make sense to buy an nx300 camera with bundled 2 lenses for the price of $400 (i live in doha qatar). I'm reading all kinds of stuff about samsung closing the nx line (which i came across here) and is now mixed feeling about buying the nx300 (brand new).

I played around the nx300 and other dslr (nikon d7000 and canon 60d and sony a6000) but really loved the simplicity and picture output of the nx300 better and the price point is cheaper than those 3 brands.

I have several Nikon DSLRs (D40, D90, D300, D7000, D7100) and several NX cameras starting with the NX100. Then the NX200 when it was released, an NX300 and most recently a used NX30.

For quite a while Samsung's NX cameras were criticized because they didn't have the solid "build" of typical DSLRs but that hasn't been a problem with any of my NX cameras and I appreciate the lighter weight.

In recent tests I compared Samsung's and Nikon's 18-55mm kit lenses at several focal lengths using the NX30 and a D7100 (the Nikon lens was the latest, improved version, intended for use with Nikon's recent high resolution DSLRs). I found that they gave similar results in the center of the frame but near the corners of the frame, the NX30 images retained most of the center sharpness and contrast but the D7100 images weren't nearly as sharp and had much less contrast than the center of the frame.

If you want the fastest AF performance and tracking, the D7000 might be what you'd want to consider, but for image quality I often prefer Samsung's cameras since the NX lenses are generally very good. That's for affordable lenses. Nikon makes many superb lenses but they often sell for from $2,500 to over $16,000, so just as with the NX1 and it's "pro" lenses, they're not for me. For the future even if Samsung's camera/lens support totally disappears, my Samsung gear should still be keeping me happy for well over 10 years. And if not, one of my backups or a used replacement would be better and cheaper than buying lots of insurance.

Kisaha Senior Member • Posts: 2,300
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rykn21x wrote:

Hi there i'm new in dpreview and is looking for some information regarding samsung nx cameras.. i just want to ask if it still make sense to buy an nx300 camera with bundled 2 lenses for the price of $400 (i live in doha qatar). I'm reading all kinds of stuff about samsung closing the nx line (which i came across here) and is now mixed feeling about buying the nx300 (brand new).

I played around the nx300 and other dslr (nikon d7000 and canon 60d and sony a6000) but really loved the simplicity and picture output of the nx300 better and the price point is cheaper than those 3 brands.

I'm sorry if this has been asked before I just wanted to know everyone's opinion considering the news...

thanks!

If you care mainly for photos, the NX300 with the 2 lenses (I guess the 18-55 and the 50-200?), is an excellent option for 400 new. Only the 2 lenses cost as much, and you take the body for free.

Later you can add the 30mm pancake, that can make your camera pocketable, and if you want the 4K video, you can buy the NX500 later.

otto k Senior Member • Posts: 2,252
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Samsung is most likely stopping development of new cameras and lenses but that does not affect existing cameras. For 400 you get very nice camera with two (which ones?) lenses. That is a very good deal. If you like the output - it's great deal. Only shortcomings of nx300 are slow operation (it takes time to write images to sd card after a burst) and continuous auto focus is a joke. Oh, and no evf but you already know that.

Even if you decide to sell it off after few years, it will still fare better than fixed lens camera worth 400 right now.

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RooksTemplar New Member • Posts: 10
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I agree, I do have the nx1 and the two S zooms.

I have been wanting to get the 85mm but I can't see investing more money due to all the confusion. I'm debating getting an 85mm for another system and adapting to the nx1 , I don't really need AF my for my portraits and I could just have a lens I could jump ship with if they do ever pill out of cameras completely.

pureaxis Regular Member • Posts: 216
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According to Korean user reports, the Samsung S lenses are still in production at the Samsung optics factory in China as of late January. So no sign of discontinuation yet.

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BaeckerX1 Regular Member • Posts: 317
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Fayewong wrote:

I keep reading users say it has ended its camera division. Prove it, give me legitimate sources that say they have really decided to end its camera business and not just rumors.

With the newly released NX500, NX 1, and both premium S lenses . I am baffled at why Samsung decided to leave the camera market when they were doing so good.

I got both 16-50mm and 50-150mm premium S lenses and was waiting to see if they will release a NX2 in the near future. After reading what users have said, I feel like my has heart sunk down a black hole as I have been slowly waiting and collecting my camera gear to find out it may be "discontinued".

It would make sense if Samsung wanted to take a break and not release a new camera every year . Samsung can just release a new camera every 2-3 years when technology gets upgraded. We don't need a NX600 this year or a NX700 next year. Or a NX2 next year when it can be released 4 years later and supply current NX1 users with firmware updates to improve functionality and usefulness since aesthetics wise there is nothing wrong with it.

If it is true, I am quite disappointed. May as well just get the NX1 and not wait on something that will not come true.

This is seriously the worst title for a thread I've read in this forum. Speculation posing as confirmation. I got click-baited.

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ReCaptcha Regular Member • Posts: 331
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Just speculation, last time I mentioned this here it got deleted for some reason, so try stating it more discretely:

http://bgr.com/2015/09/08/samsung-layoffs-2015-smartphone-sales/

Last Samsung NX1 Firmware update:

Firmware File (Firmware) ver.1.40 - All OS (MULTI LANGUAGE, 294.13 MB) ?

Aug 21, 2015

Look at the 2 dates. Are they related that last firmware update was before the news story? Who knows (Samsung does).

I'd call speculation (as all these discussion threads are until Samsung makes a definitive announcement or move).

The last NX firmware update (on anything NX related) was on the 50-200mm III (apparently to work better with the last firmware of the NX1 and NX500).

Samsung 50-200mm F4-5.6 OIS III v1.11

Date: October 8, 2015

50-200mm-III_iFn(i2)
This is the latest LENS firmware package.
To maximize improved firmware performance, body firmware should be the latest version.

[v1.11]
- Improved AF to work during zooming (only for NX1, NX500)
* Updating the camera as NX1 v1.40, NX500 v1.11

That date is four months since the last firmware update of any kind for an NX device (which is admittedly a large gap), but it was past the layoff announcement.  There's probably still at least one programmer left hacking on the NX code.

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(unknown member) Regular Member • Posts: 269
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RooksTemplar wrote:

I agree, I do have the nx1 and the two S zooms.

I have been wanting to get the 85mm but I can't see investing more money due to all the confusion. I'm debating getting an 85mm for another system and adapting to the nx1 , I don't really need AF my for my portraits and I could just have a lens I could jump ship with if they do ever pill out of cameras completely.

have you considered getting the Rokinon/samyang version? at $270 it looks reasonably priced.. if your concerned about resale value you could get it in canon mount and use an adapter.

ttbek Veteran Member • Posts: 4,869
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Heh, you and I are in the same place. Whether or not it makes sense depends mostly on what you expect from the system. The NX cameras tend to offer excellent performance/price. Service in Qatar is sketchy, as long as you're under warranty they will fix/replace things if there is a problem, but KEEP YOUR RECEIPT. They require it here despite that the warranty technically shouldn't need it. They have also lied to me about my lenses (see my teardown and reconstruction of the 50-200, no messing with the optical column was needed). Out of warranty they'll just tell you it's cheaper to buy a new one than to fix it and will refuse to fix it even if you're willing to pay double the cost of a new lens. Canon here is better for service at Salam plaza, but Canon gives you much less product for the money and can have their own issues. I tried for several months to have them order me a different focusing screen for my 5D, but two or three times they were sent the wrong part (screen for 5DII). I gave up and got two of them easily off of eBay in their original packaging when I was in the US for the holidays. Nikon service here will be similar to Canon, they're also run by Salam Plaza. Fuji and Samsung here are owned by Techno Blue and Sony by 51 East. These are all exclusive contracts, so all the products of each of these comes to Qatar only through that company. No matter where you see them for sale here they are coming through these companies. If you buy a Canon lens at Carrefour, Salam Plaza gets a cut and for service you need to go to Salam Plaza's location in The Gate mall. The Techno Blue service center is located east of the souq in a very crowded area. All of that said, Samsung makes great cameras for excellent prices. If what is available here is enough for you, then the only thing to worry about is the service. They carry very few Samsung lenses here, almost all of mine are from the US (and needed to be ordered even there) and the ones they do have here are overpriced. Instead of the NX300, the NX500 doesn't cost a ton more. Virgin in Landmark had a deal not two long ago with the NX500, 16-50 PZ and 16 mm prime, I'm not sure if that's still going on though. In general for any camera here, be careful of the sand and of the heat and humidity in the summer, and of sea spray if you're near the water.

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RooksTemplar New Member • Posts: 10
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Yes I've been debating just this today. Looking for a used copy, I suppose getting it in nx wouldn't be a huge chunk of cash to eat.

Credit and forget it.
But if you debit, you'll regret it.

RooksTemplar New Member • Posts: 10
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Ok yes found it for 209 used going to pull the trigger

(unknown member) Veteran Member • Posts: 6,192
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BaeckerX1 wrote:

Fayewong wrote:

I keep reading users say it has ended its camera division. Prove it, give me legitimate sources that say they have really decided to end its camera business and not just rumors.

With the newly released NX500, NX 1, and both premium S lenses . I am baffled at why Samsung decided to leave the camera market when they were doing so good.

I got both 16-50mm and 50-150mm premium S lenses and was waiting to see if they will release a NX2 in the near future. After reading what users have said, I feel like my has heart sunk down a black hole as I have been slowly waiting and collecting my camera gear to find out it may be "discontinued".

It would make sense if Samsung wanted to take a break and not release a new camera every year . Samsung can just release a new camera every 2-3 years when technology gets upgraded. We don't need a NX600 this year or a NX700 next year. Or a NX2 next year when it can be released 4 years later and supply current NX1 users with firmware updates to improve functionality and usefulness since aesthetics wise there is nothing wrong with it.

If it is true, I am quite disappointed. May as well just get the NX1 and not wait on something that will not come true.

This is seriously the worst title for a thread I've read in this forum. Speculation posing as confirmation. I got click-baited.

You have to wonder sometimes if some titles are designed to contaminate google searches with misinformation.

Often you get titles saying the 'xyz camera is the worst in the world' followed by text praising it and saying only joking. You do wonder if this is negative shilling relying on the title getting picked up but the main text not being read but stopping accusations of brand bashing. I am sure there are all sorts of games going on and it is difficult to sort out what is real or not.

photoreddi Veteran Member • Posts: 7,973
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Greynerd wrote:

BaeckerX1 wrote:

Fayewong wrote:

I keep reading users say it has ended its camera division. Prove it, give me legitimate sources that say they have really decided to end its camera business and not just rumors.

With the newly released NX500, NX 1, and both premium S lenses . I am baffled at why Samsung decided to leave the camera market when they were doing so good.

I got both 16-50mm and 50-150mm premium S lenses and was waiting to see if they will release a NX2 in the near future. After reading what users have said, I feel like my has heart sunk down a black hole as I have been slowly waiting and collecting my camera gear to find out it may be "discontinued".

It would make sense if Samsung wanted to take a break and not release a new camera every year . Samsung can just release a new camera every 2-3 years when technology gets upgraded. We don't need a NX600 this year or a NX700 next year. Or a NX2 next year when it can be released 4 years later and supply current NX1 users with firmware updates to improve functionality and usefulness since aesthetics wise there is nothing wrong with it.

If it is true, I am quite disappointed. May as well just get the NX1 and not wait on something that will not come true.

This is seriously the worst title for a thread I've read in this forum. Speculation posing as confirmation. I got click-baited.

You have to wonder sometimes if some titles are designed to contaminate google searches with misinformation.

Often you get titles saying the 'xyz camera is the worst in the world' followed by text praising it and saying only joking. You do wonder if this is negative shilling relying on the title getting picked up but the main text not being read but stopping accusations of brand bashing. I am sure there are all sorts of games going on and it is difficult to sort out what is real or not.

Anything is possible and I initially thought that because Fayewong was a new DPR ID that there might have been some trolling going on, but based on Fayewong's two subsequent followups (one to me), I see nothing shady going on. Here's a quote from one of Fayewong's later replies :

Yeah, I am sorry. I should have rephrased the statement in the title. I should have put a question mark at the end of the title or put it " Samsung discontinuing cameras?" Or something of similar meaning.

I made the thread 3 AM in the morning , so my common sense just went out the window.

.

and from her(?) reply to me :

Yeah, I just hope it is temporary. Hopefully Samsung comes bouncing back strong in a few years and have even more growth with new lenses 300mm, NX2 , NX600 etc. I can wait.

As much as I'd like to see these products I'm quite sure that they'll never appear, so I think that Fayewong doesn't have much experience with the camera industry and only spoke up to share her hopes for the NX product line, which I think is admirable though unlikely to happen.

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