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Thoughts on XF 90mm f2 for concert shooting

Started Feb 3, 2016 | Discussions
OP TheArtVandelay New Member • Posts: 8
Re: Thoughts on XF 90mm f2 for concert shooting

Photography201 wrote:

TheArtVandelay wrote:

Photography201 wrote:

Buy the 50-140 you are going to want image stabilization no question and I will not even say IMO.

Yes the 90 mm is a amazing tact sharp lens but with no OIS and it being a telephoto lens I know first hand you need a mono pod or something to give that little extra help because the lens is one of the larger lenses and can throw off the balance of the camera to lens

I will also suggest a handgrip or battery grip with the 90 mm and especially with the the 16-55 and most certainly with the the 59-140

I know the 50-140 is the best lens for the job. BTW you want to be able to recompose fast for what you are doing. I'd also get a second camera body if you can.

I do have the battery grip on the x-t1 and it doesn't feel too bad. i'm coming from a d700 so the weight of the fuji still feels slightly lighter. like i mentioned in another reply I may need to rent the 90mm and give it a shot. I rented the 50-140 and I thought it was great, just not sure I want to plunk down another 600 - $700, when I'm not going to be shooting as many shows.

Also I used to have a second body, I found for my style of shooting, I prefer having 1 body and usually i'll do research on shows and venues to see what lens i should start with and go from there.

Here's a link to my site of photos to give you an idea of lighting / environment, and shooting style. http://www.mrdavidthai.com/

I understand

One photographer I do like and videos I like about how to shoot concert photography specifically is fro knows photo at least as a place to start.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlzSX4vHxzQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyfhLLHEQxk

not sure why you're sending these links to me. I've been shooting from the pit for the past 6 - 7 years, so i'm aware of all the things. I'm more looking to save money on gear setup and skip out on the 50-140 and roll with a 90 instead for my closeups and 16 -55 for everything else.

OP TheArtVandelay New Member • Posts: 8
Re: Thoughts on XF 90mm f2 for concert shooting

57LowRider wrote:

The X-T1 / Battery grip / 16-55 / 90 is my current go anywhere, do anything combo. It came about by chance and turns out to be a brilliant.

cool, do you have shots posted that i can check out ?

57LowRider Veteran Member • Posts: 4,240
Re: Thoughts on XF 90mm f2 for concert shooting
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TheArtVandelay wrote:

57LowRider wrote:

The X-T1 / Battery grip / 16-55 / 90 is my current go anywhere, do anything combo. It came about by chance and turns out to be a brilliant.

cool, do you have shots posted that i can check out ?

There are a few casuals with the 90 here http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/57148821

Impromptu portrait, SOOC http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/57188759

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Photography201 Senior Member • Posts: 1,093
Re: Thoughts on XF 90mm f2 for concert shooting
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TheArtVandelay wrote:

Photography201 wrote:

TheArtVandelay wrote:

Photography201 wrote:

Buy the 50-140 you are going to want image stabilization no question and I will not even say IMO.

Yes the 90 mm is a amazing tact sharp lens but with no OIS and it being a telephoto lens I know first hand you need a mono pod or something to give that little extra help because the lens is one of the larger lenses and can throw off the balance of the camera to lens

I will also suggest a handgrip or battery grip with the 90 mm and especially with the the 16-55 and most certainly with the the 59-140

I know the 50-140 is the best lens for the job. BTW you want to be able to recompose fast for what you are doing. I'd also get a second camera body if you can.

I do have the battery grip on the x-t1 and it doesn't feel too bad. i'm coming from a d700 so the weight of the fuji still feels slightly lighter. like i mentioned in another reply I may need to rent the 90mm and give it a shot. I rented the 50-140 and I thought it was great, just not sure I want to plunk down another 600 - $700, when I'm not going to be shooting as many shows.

Also I used to have a second body, I found for my style of shooting, I prefer having 1 body and usually i'll do research on shows and venues to see what lens i should start with and go from there.

Here's a link to my site of photos to give you an idea of lighting / environment, and shooting style. http://www.mrdavidthai.com/

I understand

One photographer I do like and videos I like about how to shoot concert photography specifically is fro knows photo at least as a place to start.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlzSX4vHxzQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyfhLLHEQxk

not sure why you're sending these links to me. I've been shooting from the pit for the past 6 - 7 years, so i'm aware of all the things. I'm more looking to save money on gear setup and skip out on the 50-140 and roll with a 90 instead for my closeups and 16 -55 for everything else.

Then if you know what to do and are supposedly so experienced why are you even asking. Who cares how much a lens costs. You need that range and F stop performance or not. Does not matter if it is a DSLR or p&s camera. The specs are the specs all Fuji lenses are good and expensive

If you want to be smart about it then wait for the next Fuji rebate they run then a few times a year. The last rebate actually lasted a good part of a year at least at B&H.

If after 7 years you do not know what a given focal length looks like by just reading specs that makes no sense. You either care about OIS or not that is your call

Do what you want with your money and your photo business

This whole thread is a waste of time.

OP TheArtVandelay New Member • Posts: 8
Re: Thoughts on XF 90mm f2 for concert shooting

Photography201 wrote:

TheArtVandelay wrote:

Photography201 wrote:

TheArtVandelay wrote:

Photography201 wrote:

Buy the 50-140 you are going to want image stabilization no question and I will not even say IMO.

Yes the 90 mm is a amazing tact sharp lens but with no OIS and it being a telephoto lens I know first hand you need a mono pod or something to give that little extra help because the lens is one of the larger lenses and can throw off the balance of the camera to lens

I will also suggest a handgrip or battery grip with the 90 mm and especially with the the 16-55 and most certainly with the the 59-140

I know the 50-140 is the best lens for the job. BTW you want to be able to recompose fast for what you are doing. I'd also get a second camera body if you can.

I do have the battery grip on the x-t1 and it doesn't feel too bad. i'm coming from a d700 so the weight of the fuji still feels slightly lighter. like i mentioned in another reply I may need to rent the 90mm and give it a shot. I rented the 50-140 and I thought it was great, just not sure I want to plunk down another 600 - $700, when I'm not going to be shooting as many shows.

Also I used to have a second body, I found for my style of shooting, I prefer having 1 body and usually i'll do research on shows and venues to see what lens i should start with and go from there.

Here's a link to my site of photos to give you an idea of lighting / environment, and shooting style. http://www.mrdavidthai.com/

I understand

One photographer I do like and videos I like about how to shoot concert photography specifically is fro knows photo at least as a place to start.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlzSX4vHxzQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyfhLLHEQxk

not sure why you're sending these links to me. I've been shooting from the pit for the past 6 - 7 years, so i'm aware of all the things. I'm more looking to save money on gear setup and skip out on the 50-140 and roll with a 90 instead for my closeups and 16 -55 for everything else.

Then if you know what to do and are supposedly so experienced why are you even asking. Who cares how much a lens costs. You need that range and F stop performance or not. Does not matter if it is a DSLR or p&s camera. The specs are the specs all Fuji lenses are good and expensive

If you want to be smart about it then wait for the next Fuji rebate they run then a few times a year. The last rebate actually lasted a good part of a year at least at B&H.

If after 7 years you do not know what a given focal length looks like by just reading specs that makes no sense. You either care about OIS or not that is your call

Do what you want with your money and your photo business

This whole thread is a waste of time.

My original inquiry never asked about what focal length was better. I even said I know traditionally I should be going for the 50-140, but I'm not shooting as many gigs any more and was more curious about other photographers experience on shooting with the 90mm in night / low light situations. Never did i ask about which focal length was better. In regards to cost of a lens, not everyone is as fortunate enough as you are to not worry about the cost of something.

Good call on the fuji rebate, I'll look into when these generally come around.

georgehudetz Veteran Member • Posts: 6,299
I'm sorry, but that response was completely uncalled for

Photography201 wrote:

This whole thread is a waste of time.

Note to OP, most of us here are much more civil and welcoming.  I think you had a perfectly reasonable question and even got some reasonable answers before the thread cratered.

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OP TheArtVandelay New Member • Posts: 8
Re: I'm sorry, but that response was completely uncalled for

georgehudetz wrote:

Photography201 wrote:

This whole thread is a waste of time.

Note to OP, most of us here are much more civil and welcoming. I think you had a perfectly reasonable question and even got some reasonable answers before the thread cratered.

Thanks. He possibly may not have read my original question properly. But that's cool.

tsg Contributing Member • Posts: 865
Seems ok to me... Re: Thoughts on XF 90mm f2 for concert shooting
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It's great (so far) for concerts. x-pro 2 + 90mm:

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bensherman Contributing Member • Posts: 572
Re: Seems ok to me... Re: Thoughts on XF 90mm f2 for concert shooting

Impressive shots...How is focusing with X-Pro2 and 90mm f2? I have 90mm slapped on X-T10 but the focusing speed in lowlight leaves more to be desired. How is it with X-Pro2?

jdbats New Member • Posts: 4
Re: Thoughts on XF 90mm f2 for concert shooting

I use this lens on the X-Pro2 . The 50-140 is tempting and seems even more value for money coz it can zoom and has OIS. The difference is not huge and its not like the vast price difference of a fullframe Canon 135 f2 and a 70-200 2.8 IS . Price shouldn't be too much of a factor in the decision.

That said, if you like maximum bokeh , you have  lets say a 35mm or 56mm and  more importantly a  smaller and lighter lens, you go with the 90mm

If lack of OIS is your main concern - Shoot burst mode - 8fps. One or two of em is guaranteed to be sharp

dmaclau Veteran Member • Posts: 3,053
Re: Thoughts on XF 90mm f2 for concert shooting

the 90mm is OIS as well.  The differences are in the range and the stop difference.  (other than size and price I mean)

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dmaclau Veteran Member • Posts: 3,053
whoops

dmaclau wrote:

the 90mm is OIS as well. The differences are in the range and the stop difference. (other than size and price I mean)

I just re read the specs...guess it's not OIS after all...sorry

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tsg Contributing Member • Posts: 865
Re: Seems ok to me... Re: Thoughts on XF 90mm f2 for concert shooting

bensherman wrote:

Impressive shots...How is focusing with X-Pro2 and 90mm f2? I have 90mm slapped on X-T10 but the focusing speed in lowlight leaves more to be desired. How is it with X-Pro2?

It's been less than two weeks, but I haven't noticed any issues with focusing.  Everything seems snappy and predictable.  It's certainly much better than the original x-pro, and seems even better than the x-t1 (although the x-t1 had so many other variables in trying to use selective focus points I wouldn't compare the two).

I wouldn't say it's equal to my nikon d4s, as that just isn't the case, but I am very happy with performance across all lenses used (14, 18, 23, 35, 56, 90).

That said I've spent some time using the tracking and other modes, which seem good, but haven't spent enough time yet to form a worthwhile opinion.

I'm confident enough that I've just purchased the 16-55 and 50-140 to see how far I can push against any limits.

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georgehudetz Veteran Member • Posts: 6,299
Re: whoops

dmaclau wrote:

dmaclau wrote:

the 90mm is OIS as well. The differences are in the range and the stop difference. (other than size and price I mean)

I just re read the specs...guess it's not OIS after all...sorry

Correct.  Great lens, tho.

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Vlasty Senior Member • Posts: 1,856
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I have shot a few concerts with a similar focal length with my old M3 and a Nikon 85mm. I have found that the smaller bodies allow for much slower shutter speeds without shake for some reason. It seems you have experience with concert photography so you should have zero issues with the 90mm.

That lens will be my next purchase for much the same reasons as yours.

Nikon 85mm with Canon crop body. 1/80th ISO 3200 f/2

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tsg Contributing Member • Posts: 865
Re: Thoughts on XF 90mm f2 for concert shooting

If you're still sitting on the fence for the 90mm - I would snatch this one up double-quick:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/801361578-USE/fujifilm_16463668_xf_90mm_f_2_r.html

$639!

If I didn't already own it - I wouldn't hesitate for this one.  Condition: 10.

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