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For those of you with a Ph.D in NX1

Started Jan 16, 2016 | Discussions
Ssscomp2 Regular Member • Posts: 199
For those of you with a Ph.D in NX1

So, I got my new NX-1 with the 16-50 and I am very impressed. Got the 50-200 and I am very unimpressed. Yes, I knew it was cheap and I know there is an f2.8 50-150 but thought I would try this. IQ is ok. Focus is just too slow. So, this leads me to the following two questions:

1.  I am thinking of getting a Nikon or Canon zoom lens in the 50-200 range, one with an aperture ring on the lens and direct focus ring, not focus by wire. Most of the mounts I have seen are just mounts, no electric connection between the lens and the camera and even if there was focus would be even slower. I don't mind doing manual focus. IF I set the aperture ring to, for instance 5.6 can I then set the camera into aperture mode, set the ISO and set the aperture in the camera for 5.6 and it will then calculate the correct speed or will it not even do that if it is not electronically connected to the lens?  Can I set the aperture ring for, for example, 4.0, the speed for 1/250 and put it in manual mode and float the iso in the auto iso mode. Does the camera actually measure the light coming in and adjust the iso at the time of the photo or does it need to know in advance that the lens is mechanically set to 4.0 and if so, is there a way to do that?  Manual mode and floating the ISO would be great.

2.  I assume that focus peaking will still work. Yes?

3.  If the above is correct, any suggestions for a nikon to samsung or canon to samsung adapter and most importantly any suggestion as to zooms with aperture rings?

4.  Finally, I have the viewing mode set to hold plus zoom and when I take a photo the evf and the screen automatically jumps into 5x mode and then I can use the dials to make the photo larger or smaller to review it. Is there a way to just have it appear regular size and then use the rings to adjust the size of the image? When I put it in "hold" it does that but as soon as I try to adjust the zoom on the preview it goes back into shooting mode.

Anyway, thanks for any info you can provide.

Samsung 50-150mm F2.8 S Samsung NX1
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Rajminster Junior Member • Posts: 43
Re: For those of you with a Ph.D in NX1

1) ISO and shutter speed are controlled by the camera body. Lens is irrelevant. 100 ISO is 100 ISO with all lenses.

2) Focus peaking does still work. However, I'm a video guy. It's works in video mode, not sure about photo mode. I would assume yes.

3) Fotodiox makes some good ones. I bought a fotodiox adapter with an aperture control ring. So even with my old  EF Canon lenses, I can control aperture.

4) I put it in hold mode. Again I'm a video guy, but whenever I take photos, I believe you can use your fingers to pinch and zoom the image in review. Pressing most buttons will return it to shooting mode, but pinching your fingers should work .

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wpstl Senior Member • Posts: 1,251
Re: For those of you with a Ph.D in NX1

Answers to 1-3:

1. Yes to all

2. Yes

3. Avoid Fotodiox. The 2 I bought for my Nikon lenses didn't work...kept saying there was no lens. It's fixable but that's not what I paid for. Returned them and bought 2 different Fotasy adapters and both work perfectly.

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Happy Daze Contributing Member • Posts: 565
Lens Adaptors
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I have bought several lens adaptors from here:

http://stores.ebay.com/RainbowImaging/_i.html?_nkw=nx&submit=Search&_sid=887351901

They have all worked well (NX1-NX300-NX3000) and the price for both adaptor and international shipping is very good.

Using old manual lenses is both fun and rewarding and if you find the right lens the quality can be outstanding, some of my favourite lenses have cost me less than €50, I shot this video with an NX1000 and an old (but perfect condition) Tamron 80-210 which cost about €20.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lmk_T5AzTuU

Good luck.

wpstl Senior Member • Posts: 1,251
Re: Lens Adaptors

Happy Daze wrote:

I have bought several lens adaptors from here:

http://stores.ebay.com/RainbowImaging/_i.html?_nkw=nx&submit=Search&_sid=887351901

They have all worked well (NX1-NX300-NX3000) and the price for both adaptor and international shipping is very good.

Using old manual lenses is both fun and rewarding and if you find the right lens the quality can be outstanding, some of my favourite lenses have cost me less than €50, I shot this video with an NX1000 and an old (but perfect condition) Tamron 80-210 which cost about €20.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lmk_T5AzTuU

Good luck.

RainbowImaging and Fotasy are the same company. Excellent products.

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OP Ssscomp2 Regular Member • Posts: 199
Re: Lens Adaptors

Thank you for your input. I really like the video. Just so that I can try and get it through my thick head if you put a third-party lens on an nx1 with a "dumb" adapter, that is no electrical pass through whatever and use the aperture ring on the lens itself to set the aperture , If I then put the camera in Aperture mode and set the ISO at a given level does it even matter what aperture I tell the camera the lens is set at or does the camera only measure the incoming light when I press the shutter and set the shutter speed accordingly? Or does the question not even l sense? Finally do you know of any lenses that you would recommend running from about 50 to 200 mm that are fully manual? Thanks so much for your response to this.

otto k Senior Member • Posts: 2,252
Re: Lens Adaptors

You are not telling camera anything. You set the aperture any way you can on the lens (including making a funny bokeh cutout shape for the entrance pupil) and set the camera to A or M mode. Camera meters and shoots. You don't even have to set the ISO, you can leave it at auto and set the minimum shutter speed, etc. It's actually much better than using manual lenses on DSLR.

Edit, lenses - from bunch of affordable fast nifty fifties (from 40/1.8 to 58/2 to 58/1.2) and venerable 135mm f2.8 you can't go wrong. My favorites are ultra cheap helios 44-2 (58/2 equivalent to ~85mm full frame) with swirly bokeh, pentax 50/1.7 and Konica Hexanon 135 3.2 with MFD of 1m (sharp, beautiful colors and very compact to boot, equivalent to ~200mm). Might get a legacy 85mm as well (~135mm).

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Happy Daze Contributing Member • Posts: 565
Re: Lens Adaptors

Ssscomp2 wrote:

Thank you for your input. I really like the video. Just so that I can try and get it through my thick head if you put a third-party lens on an nx1 with a "dumb" adapter, that is no electrical pass through whatever and use the aperture ring on the lens itself to set the aperture , If I then put the camera in Aperture mode and set the ISO at a given level does it even matter what aperture I tell the camera the lens is set at or does the camera only measure the incoming light when I press the shutter and set the shutter speed accordingly? Or does the question not even l sense? Finally do you know of any lenses that you would recommend running from about 50 to 200 mm that are fully manual? Thanks so much for your response to this.

If you use an adaptor without contacts then you must use a lens that has a manual aperture ring. Set the camera to aperture priority and the camera will choose the shutter speed appropriate for the correct exposure for your chosen aperture. It is also possible to change ISO and the camera will compensate for shutter speed accordingly. Other functions such as exposure compensation, auto exposure hold etc will also work as before, the only thing the camera can not adjust for the correct exposure is the aperture as that is now a manual function.

When focusing I will always open the lens to the widest aperture and then stop down prior to exposure, this will allow the most light into the camera making focusing easier, also focusing with a narrow depth of field will make it more accurate.

There are so many lenses in the range of 50-200mm and there are some good sites around dedicated to the subject, just Google "manual" or "legacy" lenses, that should yield results. Personally I like the Tamron lenses but I have had some good and not so good, but this is true of all lenses even modern ones, In fact I don't think I have had two of the same lens that are actually the same in terms of image quality.

Cheers, Paul.

Nooonji Junior Member • Posts: 26
Re: Lens Adaptors

Hi,

Sorry for hijacking this thread, but I was just wondering if you people has had any luck with an m42 adapter? I bought one from Hong Kong that looked just like this one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Adjustable-M42-42mm-lens-Samsung-NX1-NX500-NX3000-NX300M-NX300-Camera-Adapter-/331615318856?hash=item4d35d03348

The links is from a store mentioned earlier in this thread. Not sure whether the one I bought had Fotasy written on it. Anyhow, the one I bought were in the same pricerange as this one but free shipping - it did not work. Would prefer to find someone on this forum recommending me one that does work before I order again...

(The adapter I got would not "snap" into place, and in the camera it would say "no lens attached". I managed to kinda solve the problem using tape but did not like that solution (which barely worked anyway) so I ended up throwing the adapter in the trash.)

wpstl Senior Member • Posts: 1,251
Re: Lens Adaptors

Nooonji wrote:

Hi,

Sorry for hijacking this thread, but I was just wondering if you people has had any luck with an m42 adapter? I bought one from Hong Kong that looked just like this one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Adjustable-M42-42mm-lens-Samsung-NX1-NX500-NX3000-NX300M-NX300-Camera-Adapter-/331615318856?hash=item4d35d03348

The links is from a store mentioned earlier in this thread. Not sure whether the one I bought had Fotasy written on it. Anyhow, the one I bought were in the same pricerange as this one but free shipping - it did not work. Would prefer to find someone on this forum recommending me one that does work before I order again...

(The adapter I got would not "snap" into place, and in the camera it would say "no lens attached". I managed to kinda solve the problem using tape but did not like that solution (which barely worked anyway) so I ended up throwing the adapter in the trash.)

I have the exact one in the link and it works perfectly. I bought it at Amazon for $10 or so with free Prime shipping. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003RS8GE4

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zipcode Regular Member • Posts: 312
Re: For those of you with a Ph.D in NX1

Maybe somewhat unrelated, but the samsung has ois, keep that in mind. At 200mm I have serious problems getting good images without ois, which is pretty good on the samsung.

I have been happier with Fotasy than others, but they weren't all good. Some still have some play or need to fix them to press the pin. I assume with each complaint they must improve them, so maybe they manage to make them good now.

Nooonji Junior Member • Posts: 26
Re: For those of you with a Ph.D in NX1

Maybe somewhat unrelated, but the samsung has ois, keep that in mind. At 200mm I have serious problems getting good images without ois, which is pretty good on the samsung.

I have been happier with Fotasy than others, but they weren't all good. Some still have some play or need to fix them to press the pin. I assume with each complaint they must improve them, so maybe they manage to make them good now.

How do you "fix them to press the pin"? And do you mean the pin in the camera which makes the camera know that there is a lens attached or do you mean some other pin?

Nooonji Junior Member • Posts: 26
Re: Lens Adaptors

Nooonji wrote:

Hi,

Sorry for hijacking this thread, but I was just wondering if you people has had any luck with an m42 adapter? I bought one from Hong Kong that looked just like this one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Adjustable-M42-42mm-lens-Samsung-NX1-NX500-NX3000-NX300M-NX300-Camera-Adapter-/331615318856?hash=item4d35d03348

The links is from a store mentioned earlier in this thread. Not sure whether the one I bought had Fotasy written on it. Anyhow, the one I bought were in the same pricerange as this one but free shipping - it did not work. Would prefer to find someone on this forum recommending me one that does work before I order again...

(The adapter I got would not "snap" into place, and in the camera it would say "no lens attached". I managed to kinda solve the problem using tape but did not like that solution (which barely worked anyway) so I ended up throwing the adapter in the trash.)

I have the exact one in the link and it works perfectly. I bought it at Amazon for $10 or so with free Prime shipping. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003RS8GE4

Thank you! Will have a look at the link when I get home.

Kisaha Senior Member • Posts: 2,300
Re: Lens Adaptors

Nooonji wrote:

Hi,

Sorry for hijacking this thread, but I was just wondering if you people has had any luck with an m42 adapter? I bought one from Hong Kong that looked just like this one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Adjustable-M42-42mm-lens-Samsung-NX1-NX500-NX3000-NX300M-NX300-Camera-Adapter-/331615318856?hash=item4d35d03348

The links is from a store mentioned earlier in this thread. Not sure whether the one I bought had Fotasy written on it. Anyhow, the one I bought were in the same pricerange as this one but free shipping - it did not work. Would prefer to find someone on this forum recommending me one that does work before I order again...

(The adapter I got would not "snap" into place, and in the camera it would say "no lens attached". I managed to kinda solve the problem using tape but did not like that solution (which barely worked anyway) so I ended up throwing the adapter in the trash.)

I have the exact one in the link and it works perfectly. I bought it at Amazon for $10 or so with free Prime shipping. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003RS8GE4

I have the same, noname, it works perfectly.

ttbek Veteran Member • Posts: 4,869
Re: For those of you with a Ph.D in NX1

That happens with all the brands though, they all seem to have similarly bad sample variation, so I wouldn't avoid photodiox for it unless I was willing to avoid the lot.

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belleandlilsebastian Junior Member • Posts: 25
Re: For those of you with a Ph.D in NX1

Side tangent, as I see you're both a canon and NX1 shooter-- what profiles do you use on each for color matching video between the two?

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drsteven New Member • Posts: 2
Re: For those of you with a Ph.D in NX1

I too have the NX1. I did purchase the Fotodiox adapter with the aperture ring. First, it does work, but you really cannot set the aperture to a given setting. You can increase and decrease the aperture and the shutter speed WILL adjust. You will not know what the exact f stop is.

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