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Are these lenses redundant for my needs?

Started Jan 13, 2016 | Discussions
dgr88 New Member • Posts: 15
Are these lenses redundant for my needs?
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Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM

and/or

Sigma 18-250 mm f3.5-6.3 DC Macro OS HSM

A little background - I bought the original Rebel shortly after it was released. I was just starting to move along the DSLR learning curve when my first child was born 11 years ago, went back to the ease and portability of a point and shoot.

Now I'm about to revisit the dslr and purchase the 70D in advance of a family trip to Costa Rica. As it happens, I'm also about to start filming a series of work-related training videos for YouTube, so I'm factoring this into my purchase decisions as well.

After researching lens options for our Costa Rica trip, I decided to put the Sigma 18-250 mm f3.5-6.3 DC Macro OS HSM on my list. I want to avoid changing lenses while on the trip if possible, so this seems to be the best middle ground for convenience and image quality.

With the addition of video capability, however, the 70D kit lens - the Canon 18-135 mm f3.5-5.6 STM - has stood out as a superior lens.

Is it overkill have have both lenses? I know that I want the Canon for it's video capabilities, but would it also serve me well on my trip if I decided to forgo the Sigma? I have the budget to buy both, but certainly do not want to spend more money unnecessarily.

Any guidance would be appreciated. I'm also open to other lens suggestions within the same price orbit as the two above.

Thanks!

tatslau Regular Member • Posts: 298
Re: Are these lenses redundant for my needs?
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dgr88 wrote:

Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM

and/or

Sigma 18-250 mm f3.5-6.3 DC Macro OS HSM

A little background - I bought the original Rebel shortly after it was released. I was just starting to move along the DSLR learning curve when my first child was born 11 years ago, went back to the ease and portability of a point and shoot.

Now I'm about to revisit the dslr and purchase the 70D in advance of a family trip to Costa Rica. As it happens, I'm also about to start filming a series of work-related training videos for YouTube, so I'm factoring this into my purchase decisions as well.

After researching lens options for our Costa Rica trip, I decided to put the Sigma 18-250 mm f3.5-6.3 DC Macro OS HSM on my list. I want to avoid changing lenses while on the trip if possible, so this seems to be the best middle ground for convenience and image quality.

With the addition of video capability, however, the 70D kit lens - the Canon 18-135 mm f3.5-5.6 STM - has stood out as a superior lens.

Is it overkill have have both lenses? I know that I want the Canon for it's video capabilities, but would it also serve me well on my trip if I decided to forgo the Sigma? I have the budget to buy both, but certainly do not want to spend more money unnecessarily.

Any guidance would be appreciated. I'm also open to other lens suggestions within the same price orbit as the two above.

Thanks!

Yes, definitely redundant.  If you have to switch lens for that extra reach of 250mm, get the Canon 55-250 STM IS instead.  I have it and its IQ is close to that of L lenses, AF is super smooth and quiet. STM lenses are the best for video, even better than L lenses with USM.

It is very light, both on weight and your wallet.  Someone reported it can be had for $109 from the US Canon e-store refurbished site.

BTW, do consider the Canon 10-18mm IS STM lens too.  It is also very light and affordable.  Very good IQ for a budget ultra-wide angle lens.

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Jonathan Brady
Jonathan Brady Veteran Member • Posts: 6,725
Re: Are these lenses redundant for my needs?
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Do you intend to take pictures of very far off subjects? If so, additional reach may be handy. But I agree with the prior poster, go for the 55-250 IS STM for those occasional shots. The 18-135 STM should do the trick for the majority of your shots. Also, as the prior poster said, you may benefit more from the 10-18 IS STM than the additional reach beyond 135mm.

Having been to Costa Rica twice, I feel like I can confidently say that unless you have a lot of experience spotting wildlife, or you have a guide, you will rarely need 250 and if you do, you'll need more like 1000mm.

OP dgr88 New Member • Posts: 15
Re: Are these lenses redundant for my needs?

Thanks for the advice. It definitely makes sense.

I'm curious. Exclusive of the lenses I originally posted about, will I get any worthwhile results by using my original 300D kit lens (18-55mm) if I just kept it on my camera for spur of the moment, every day shots? Is it worth even keeping it around?

Jonathan Brady
Jonathan Brady Veteran Member • Posts: 6,725
Re: Are these lenses redundant for my needs?
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dgr88 wrote:

Thanks for the advice. It definitely makes sense.

I'm curious. Exclusive of the lenses I originally posted about, will I get any worthwhile results by using my original 300D kit lens (18-55mm) if I just kept it on my camera for spur of the moment, every day shots? Is it worth even keeping it around?

If I remember correctly, that wasn't even an IS lens, right?  If so, I don't know enough about the optical quality of that lens to comment but I'd guess that the fact that it lacks IS is enough for you to keep it at home.

If I'm not remembering correctly and it's the EF-S 18-55mm IS lens, then from about 18-40 ish, you'll get equal or slightly better results.  Towards the long end of the 18-55, the 18-135 will outperform it.

OP dgr88 New Member • Posts: 15
Re: Are these lenses redundant for my needs?
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Thanks! Very helpful and educational input! I just ordered the following from B&H:

-Canon EOS 70D DSLR Camera with 18-135mm STM Lens and Printer Kit
(Great rebate offer that put this camera/lens combo on top price-wise AND included a printer that will conveniently replace the "dead" model that I rely upon for non-photography related projects. Definitely a win for me!)

-Canon EF-S 10-18mm f/4.5-5.6 IS STM Lens

I think I'm all set.

Mark B.
Mark B. Forum Pro • Posts: 29,756
Re: Are these lenses redundant for my needs?
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tatslau wrote:

dgr88 wrote:

Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM

and/or

Sigma 18-250 mm f3.5-6.3 DC Macro OS HSM

A little background - I bought the original Rebel shortly after it was released. I was just starting to move along the DSLR learning curve when my first child was born 11 years ago, went back to the ease and portability of a point and shoot.

Now I'm about to revisit the dslr and purchase the 70D in advance of a family trip to Costa Rica. As it happens, I'm also about to start filming a series of work-related training videos for YouTube, so I'm factoring this into my purchase decisions as well.

After researching lens options for our Costa Rica trip, I decided to put the Sigma 18-250 mm f3.5-6.3 DC Macro OS HSM on my list. I want to avoid changing lenses while on the trip if possible, so this seems to be the best middle ground for convenience and image quality.

With the addition of video capability, however, the 70D kit lens - the Canon 18-135 mm f3.5-5.6 STM - has stood out as a superior lens.

Is it overkill have have both lenses? I know that I want the Canon for it's video capabilities, but would it also serve me well on my trip if I decided to forgo the Sigma? I have the budget to buy both, but certainly do not want to spend more money unnecessarily.

Any guidance would be appreciated. I'm also open to other lens suggestions within the same price orbit as the two above.

Thanks!

Yes, definitely redundant. If you have to switch lens for that extra reach of 250mm, get the Canon 55-250 STM IS instead. I have it and its IQ is close to that of L lenses, AF is super smooth and quiet. STM lenses are the best for video, even better than L lenses with USM.

Couldn't agree more on the recommendation of the 55-250 STM IS as a travel lens.  Light, affordable, and IQ will be noticeably better than the Sigma.

Mark

Mike Contributing Member • Posts: 783
18mm vs. 55mm ??!

Why would one recommend the 55-300 over a shorter reach lens when both the posters lenses start at 18mm ?

Only the owner can tell us if they are redundant..!

On one hand, the 270mm reach out does the 135mm...right ?  Do you use the is reach, or will the 135 reach do the job ?

And finally, which one produces better pictures ?

Put the pros and cons on a piece of paper...do you OWN homework and tell your self which one to keep..!

Mike

Jonathan Brady
Jonathan Brady Veteran Member • Posts: 6,725
Re: 18mm vs. 55mm ??!

Take a second look. I said the 18-135 plus the 55-250 was an option. Not solely the 55-250.

Hoogineer
Hoogineer Regular Member • Posts: 211
Re: Are these lenses redundant for my needs?

dgr88 wrote:

Thanks! Very helpful and educational input! I just ordered the following from B&H:

-Canon EOS 70D DSLR Camera with 18-135mm STM Lens and Printer Kit
(Great rebate offer that put this camera/lens combo on top price-wise AND included a printer that will conveniently replace the "dead" model that I rely upon for non-photography related projects. Definitely a win for me!)

-Canon EF-S 10-18mm f/4.5-5.6 IS STM Lens

I think I'm all set.

I think you made a great decision. If you want to record video on your 70D and use auto-focus without hearing the AF motor whirring, you need to get the 18-135mm IS STM (or the 18-55m IS STM). Anything other than those two lenses (and the 55-250mm IS STM) is going to have audible noise during AF in video.

If you decide you want a newer telephoto in the future, wait for a good deal on a refurb 55-250mm IS STM from Canon's online store.  As someone already mentioned, it was only ~$110 ca. Black Friday.

Now that you're going to have the 18-135mm IS STM, I wouldn't even bother with the 18-55mm (IS or not). I have an EF-S 18-55 IS II (from 600D) and I don't plan to use it anymore after my 18-135mm IS STM arrives. I'll probably sell it or gift it with my 600D.  If you decide to switch from viewfinder to Live View, the STM is invaluable compared to the non-STM kit lenses (IMHO).

 Hoogineer's gear list:Hoogineer's gear list
Canon EOS 7D Mark II Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC HSM Canon EF-S 18-135mm F3.5-5.6 IS STM Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS STM +2 more
crashpc Veteran Member • Posts: 7,240
Re: Are these lenses redundant for my needs?

18-135mm IS STM beats that old 18-55 (I) kit lens in about everything except size and price.

 crashpc's gear list:crashpc's gear list
Canon EOS M10 Canon EF-M 15-45mm F3.5-6.3 IS STM
pilou1253 Regular Member • Posts: 139
Re: Are these lenses redundant for my needs?

dgr88 wrote:

Thanks! Very helpful and educational input! I just ordered the following from B&H:

-Canon EOS 70D DSLR Camera with 18-135mm STM Lens and Printer Kit
(Great rebate offer that put this camera/lens combo on top price-wise AND included a printer that will conveniently replace the "dead" model that I rely upon for non-photography related projects. Definitely a win for me!)

-Canon EF-S 10-18mm f/4.5-5.6 IS STM Lens

I think I'm all set.

I think you made a great decision. If you want to record video on your 70D and use auto-focus without hearing the AF motor whirring, you need to get the 18-135mm IS STM (or the 18-55m IS STM). Anything other than those two lenses (and the 55-250mm IS STM) is going to have audible noise during AF in video.

If you decide you want a newer telephoto in the future, wait for a good deal on a refurb 55-250mm IS STM from Canon's online store.  As someone already mentioned, it was only ~$110 ca. Black Friday.

Now that you're going to have the 18-135mm IS STM, I wouldn't even bother with the 18-55mm (IS or not). I have an EF-S 18-55 IS II (from 600D) and I don't plan to use it anymore after my 18-135mm IS STM arrives. I'll probably sell it or gift it with my 600D.  If you decide to switch from viewfinder to Live View, the STM is invaluable compared to the non-STM kit lenses (IMHO).

+1. The perfect travel kit for aps-c!

 pilou1253's gear list:pilou1253's gear list
Canon EOS 1000D Canon EOS 70D Canon EF 28mm f/1.8 USM Canon EF 50mm F1.8 II Canon EF 85mm F1.8 USM +7 more
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