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Hiking in national parks, lens suggestions?

Started Dec 31, 2015 | Discussions
drmarkf Contributing Member • Posts: 951
Re: Hiking in national parks, lens suggestions?

Mentioning the GM1, they are a very capable and tiny backup body for any m4/3 system and there are a lot available second hand from reputable dealers at the moment at very keen prices.

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OP apekkpul Senior Member • Posts: 1,498
Re: Hiking in national parks, lens suggestions?

Thanks, all, for the feedback and suggestions.

I decided to order Panasonic 35-100/f4-5.6 (brand new in ebay for 200€) and I will probably change my Olympus 12-50 to 12-40/2.8.

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gary0319
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Re: Hiking in national parks, lens suggestions?

apekkpul wrote:

Thanks, all, for the feedback and suggestions.

I decided to order Panasonic 35-100/f4-5.6 (brand new in ebay for 200€) and I will probably change my Olympus 12-50 to 12-40/2.8.

Great little lens, good choice. I'll be using mine today.

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howardfuhrman Veteran Member • Posts: 4,153
Re: Hiking in national parks, lens suggestions?

I see that you that you will be on hikes that are up to 2 -3 days in duration and in addition to your photo gear, you may have many other things to haul food, water, tent, sleeping bag, etc. I recently visited the Living Desert Zoo in the desert in Southern California. We walked around for about 3 hours. I took too much: GX8, Pan 7-14, Pan 100-300, 20, 30 macro and a Oly 45 1.8. While my back pack did not include everything that you need to carry, after 3 hours, I was thinking that in the future I would like to cut the weight.  Bear on mind, you are probably much younger and more fit than me and you should take weight of your gear into consideration.

On my visit to the zoo, I used all the 100-300 and the 45mm lenses.

If I was you, I would take  the LX100 which covers the 24-75mm focal lengths and a telephoto for wildlife and two or three spare batteries for each camera. I would leave the 45-200 at home - I personally never liked the lens and gave the lens to my son.

I suggest that enjoying your trip be of the highest priority and taking lots of great photos be "icing on the cake".

OP apekkpul Senior Member • Posts: 1,498
Re: Hiking in national parks, lens suggestions?

Thanks, and I will definitely limit carrying too much gear.

I had LX100 in last summer's British Columbia and California trip. Although it is handy, I preferred images from OMD EM5. It is probably about my post-processing skills, but LX100 images do not look as natural as Olympus images. (I'm shooting RAW+JPEGs and using LightRoom for development). We visited in Yosemite and Lake Tahoe in California. Since I also shooted a lot of video, I carried EM5 when I hiked and used LX100 with a monopod when I was near the car...

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JLTaylor Senior Member • Posts: 1,189
Re: Hiking in national parks, lens suggestions?

apekkpul wrote:

Thanks, all, for the feedback and suggestions.

I decided to order Panasonic 35-100/f4-5.6 (brand new in ebay for 200€) and I will probably change my Olympus 12-50 to 12-40/2.8.

Nice little lens.  For the lengths of hiking trips I do, I would opt to carry a longer lens.  The chance of wildlife photography is one reason I backpack.

I borrowed a copy of the 35-100/F4-5.6 last month.  I am thinking of getting one as a small telephoto I'll carry around when I don't expect to use it.  Only had it for 4 days, but found it very useful.

Good ratio of reach to size or weight.

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Arizona Sunset
Arizona Sunset Veteran Member • Posts: 3,797
Re: It depends

Hi

When hiking this week I took my EM10 mkII and 12-32mm. Nice and small and light. But there again I take general pictures of scenery and family when out and about. So for me no need for a longer FL in these situations. If there was wildlife involved I would take the 35-100 f2.8.

400-600mm equivalent is where wildlife happens in western parks

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john isaacs Veteran Member • Posts: 8,444
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apekkpul wrote:

I plan to visit in a few national parks in Finland/Norway Lapland next summer, and I will definitely want to shoot both stills and video. We'll do some 2-3 days hikes, sleep in tent, carry all stuff in a backpack. Then we'll drive to another area, maybe rest a day in a hotel, and do another hike.

I have EM10 mark II. Zoom lenses would be handy but I only have not-so-good ones:

- Olympus 12-50mm, this I might take with me

- Panasonic 45-200mm, this is pretty heavy lens and I don't like it too much

I also have two primes: Panasonic 20mm and Olympus 45mm.

Ideally I would like to manage with one all-around zoom and one prime. For example, I would purchase Panasonic 14-140mm (ii) and use it for landscape photos/videos, and use Panny 20mm for low light situations.

I will also take LX100 and iPhone 6s with me, and a hiking pole with a camera mount so that stabilize cameras if needed.

I would be nice to hear from people who have been hiking and carrying gear what worked and what did not. Please also share best practices to protect gear from rain.

Pekka

Take the E-M10, 12-50mm, and 20mm.  Leave everything else.  If you really want to buy a new lens, then get the 12-40 f/2.8 and leave the 12-50mm and 20mm behind.

If you want telephoto for wildlife, then it's either the Olympus 40-150 R (real cheap) or the 75-300 (more reach but more weight).

I don't recommend the 14-140 over the 12-40; a world of difference.

For rain, if you want to shoot in the rain then you want a rain sleeve; the cheap ones are good enough.  But note that when it's raining, there isn't much light so you want a fast lens.  That's where the 12-40 becomes a valuable addition.

The main consideration is weight; and telephoto lenses are going to add weight.

The hiking pole camera mount is usually a 1/4-20 thread.  I like to do panoramas in portrait orientation, for that you need a little more equipment.  I would add a universal L-bracket to your camera and get an Arca QR plate for the walking stick.  Then you can easily pop your camera on/off; if it's easy, then you will use it.  Use the level gauge display to keep the camera level while rotating.

Remember: less is more; function over form; bring extra socks.

XCTF New Member • Posts: 10
Re: It depends

Arizona Sunset wrote:

Hi

When hiking this week I took my EM10 mkII and 12-32mm. Nice and small and light. But there again I take general pictures of scenery and family when out and about. So for me no need for a longer FL in these situations. If there was wildlife involved I would take the 35-100 f2.8.

400-600mm equivalent is where wildlife happens in western parks

My family and I did day hikes up to 12 miles in Rocky National Park and also visited about 10 other parks where we did shorter day hikes or 1/2 day hikes. We got as far west as Utah, Wyoming, and Montana. We saw little wildlife while hiking up higher and I thought I had little need to zoom in during the hikes. A 400-600 equivalent is needed for Elk in the lower pastures at Yellowstone. I am not sure I would have much use for a 35-100 in the western parks while on a hike but I may keep it in a vehicle if it would be safe while I was out hiking.  You can drive to the areas where the are commonly seen in the evenings during rutting season so I did not need to carry this type of a lens on a long hike. We took the trip in 2012. I bought a refurbished E-PL1, kit lenses, 14mm Panasonic lens, Panasonic camcorder, Canon S95, and other gear for the trip. I never used the 14-42 and seldom used the 40-150. I used the Panasonic lens for all the landscape photos. I used a Canon S95 for some landscape photos and for all the closer shots and all the shots with family members. It was nice to have this small camera on my belt that I could pull out quickly. I put the E-PL1 away at times into my Lowepro Slingshot 102 camera bag. I could quickly pull it from the bag when needed but I used the Canon S95 for photos where I had like time. We also stopped at Badlands, Bryce Canyon, Canyonlands, Grand Teton, Zion, , Grand Canyon, Mesa Verde and a few lessor known parks. We often stayed in the parks until sunset so fast lenses would help with low light evening photos. Our trip took 4 weeks. One consideration was my wife and two teenage daughters enjoyed hiking with me but they did not want to stop long for me to take photos at every scenic point so I had no little time to switch lenses and I did not want to carry a lot of weight. I tried to balance taking photos and also enjoying the scenery and being with my family.  We took day hikes so we did not need to carry a lot of gear but we did need to carry plenty of water and some food. It was 106 degrees F outside when we hiked in the Badlands.  I carried water on a belt and also attached to my Lowepro camera bag.

We saw much more wildlife on our trip to the Everglades and along the coast near San Diego than we did on our 2011 trip out west or our trip to Arcadia.

I now have a E-PM2 and many more M43 lenses.  I bought a Sony a6000 to cover high school XC and T&F meets.  If I went to the national parks today I would want an even wider lens than the 14mm.  For hiking I would want at least two light weight and small cameras because changing lenses often would not be convenient.  It seemed that most of the large animal sighting were done from a vehicle at the side of the road so I did not need to take the 40-150 lens on most hikes.  Now I would use the Sony for video or a newer M43 camera for video while on a hike rather than carry the camcorder.  The 20x or greater zoom of the camcorder would still be useful other times when not on a hike.

So for national parks one needs to consider what they will photograph, how much weight they want to carry, how good of physical shape they are in, and how far they plan to hike.   I think it would be worthwhile to carry a heavier, longer lens for hikes in some national parks while in others it may not be worthwhile depending on how likely one would see wildlife from a distance.

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Arizona Sunset
Arizona Sunset Veteran Member • Posts: 3,797
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Good summary, and I agree with most of it. I too think that a two camera pair is really useful for the great outdoors, assuming it is a photography centric trip. Like you said, two bodies to avoid changing lenses too often.

Just my two cents - I think of a 1" camera these days as a body + lens pair, and usually bring one. Either a compact like the LX100 or RX100 IV, or a bridge like the RX10 II or FZ1000 depending on location. This is one of my cameras every trip, no questions.

The other is a system camera to accommodate wide, portrait, and night time shots. The size of the system depends on if I'm driving or flying to the location.

I can tell you right now that my best shots have nothing to do with the sensor size, but with the focal length. So having that bridge (previously CMOS, small, now 1" BSI) has saved my butt more times than I can count. The "stunner" shots from the system, e.g., astrophotography, macro, portraits of family and friends along the way, round out the gallery or video of course.   Both can do time lapse, and perform general photography, and together they keep my overall kit small and light.

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OP apekkpul Senior Member • Posts: 1,498
Re: Hiking in national parks, lens suggestions?

I just got Olympus 12-40/2.8 PRO, and it is heavy compared to my other m43 lenses.

I might keep my m.zuiko 12-50 and use it when I am too lazy to carry any extra load.

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