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Hiking in national parks, lens suggestions?

Started Dec 31, 2015 | Discussions
apekkpul Senior Member • Posts: 1,498
Hiking in national parks, lens suggestions?

I plan to visit in a few national parks in Finland/Norway Lapland next summer, and I will definitely want to shoot both stills and video. We'll do some 2-3 days hikes, sleep in tent, carry all stuff in a backpack. Then we'll drive to another area, maybe rest a day in a hotel, and do another hike.

I have EM10 mark II. Zoom lenses would be handy but I only have not-so-good ones:

- Olympus 12-50mm, this I might take with me

- Panasonic 45-200mm, this is pretty heavy lens and I don't like it too much

I also have two primes: Panasonic 20mm and Olympus 45mm.

Ideally I would like to manage with one all-around zoom and one prime. For example, I would purchase Panasonic 14-140mm (ii) and use it for landscape photos/videos, and use Panny 20mm for low light situations.

I will also take LX100 and iPhone 6s with me, and a hiking pole with a camera mount so that stabilize cameras if needed.

I would be nice to hear from people who have been hiking and carrying gear what worked and what did not. Please also share best practices to protect gear from rain.

Pekka

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Martin.au
Martin.au Forum Pro • Posts: 14,339
Re: Hiking in national parks, lens suggestions?

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/56989867

My backpacking description is near the end of my post.

I'd typically take a general zoom, a long tele for wildlife and a macro.

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dv312
dv312 Veteran Member • Posts: 9,215
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If it were me, I'd bring the Olympus 14-150mm II since it's light, weatherproof and cover quite a bit of range

I'd pack either the macro 60mm or the 45mm for shallow DOF effect images

If you expect to shoot wildlife, I'd bring the Oly 75-300mm (or the Panny 100-300mm)

Voila, there 's no need to bring too many based on my own hiking experience

Cheers,

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OP apekkpul Senior Member • Posts: 1,498
Re: Hiking in national parks, lens suggestions?

Thanks for the suggestion, Oly 14-150mm (ii) seems to be a great all-around lens.

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LeeS Contributing Member • Posts: 889
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dv312 wrote:

If it were me, I'd bring the Olympus 14-150mm II since it's light, weatherproof and cover quite a bit of range

I'd pack either the macro 60mm or the 45mm for shallow DOF effect images

If you expect to shoot wildlife, I'd bring the Oly 75-300mm (or the Panny 100-300mm)

Voila, there 's no need to bring too many based on my own hiking experience

Cheers,

Weather sealed lenses are only protected when mounted on weather sealed bodies. Unfortunately, the OP's EM10 II is not weather sealed.

Lee

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OP apekkpul Senior Member • Posts: 1,498
Re: Hiking in national parks, lens suggestions?

Thanks. Did I understood correctly that when hiking you have a small/day backpack and Digital Holster at the same time? I wonder how this combination would work if one carries a pretty heavy backpack?

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OP apekkpul Senior Member • Posts: 1,498
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Indeed, so mark I might be good enough. One reviewer in Amazon commented that mark II's video focusing seems to be better in low light. Also, mark II could be a less prone to flare.

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Martin.au
Martin.au Forum Pro • Posts: 14,339
Re: Hiking in national parks, lens suggestions?

apekkpul wrote:

Thanks. Did I understood correctly that when hiking you have a small/day backpack and Digital Holster at the same time? I wonder how this combination would work if one carries a pretty heavy backpack?

I'd use the same setup regardless of pack size. It makes the camera available, and sitting on the hip belt is about as comfortable as if it was in the pack. The trick is to find backpacks that can mount the holster securely on the waist strap.

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JulesGo
JulesGo Contributing Member • Posts: 531
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apekkpul wrote:

Thanks for the suggestion, Oly 14-150mm (ii) seems to be a great all-around lens.

I have the 14-150mm and I find it doesn't have enough reach for wildlife, mainly birds.  Also, it is most often too slow for landscapes in the bush.  When hiking, I prefer the Pana 100-300mm.  For landscapes, I also carry the Oly 12-40mm or I use my smartphone, a Samsung Note 4.

I have tried many ways to carry the camera and I prefer to attach it to the front of the back pack harness using quick detach straps.  I make my own but they look somewhat like these:

http://optechusa.com/reporter-backpack.html

Enjoy your trip.  I'm jealous !

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(unknown member) Regular Member • Posts: 118
Re: Hiking in national parks, lens suggestions?

Apekkpul,

As you are finding out, there is no utopia kit.  It comes down to what you like to shoot.  If you are a wildlife guy, then a telephoto lens is a must.  If you are a ultra wide angle landscape guy, the telephoto lens is a paperweight.  My guess is that you are in the middle..  So here are my thoughts

First I would take a couple extra batteries and program your M10 to save battery power..  The bottom line is that an EVF will burn a battery in ~2-3hrs of ON time.... turn off your camera...

Second, I bought a few cheap lightweight things to help my hiking setup.  I bought 35lb/test fishing line to tie promaster pinch lens caps to my strap..  I bought infant/toddler socks to put around my unused lenses in my backpack.  I bought a Bushnell binocular harness to allow me to take off my backpack but keep my camera strapped on. I bought an OpTech hood hat to put on the end of the lens.  I use Optech straps and quick connect ends to attach to the Bino harness.

I trend towards ultra wide landscape so I take a Sirui 025x (or 024x) tripod, circular polarizer, and a 3 [or 6 stop] ND filter

Lens...   I take an Oly 9-18mm and the 12mm.  I *may* take a Oly 25mm if I have the room in the backpack and I want a general purpose FOV. If I think I will be in a town during the hike, It may get replaced with the 17mm for street shooting. The 75-300mm goes along only if I think I will see wildlife in daylight conditions...

Hope this helps

Hookum

gary0319
gary0319 Forum Pro • Posts: 10,540
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I recently bought the Oly 14-150 (great, sharp, compact lens) and I think it would serve you well on your trip. Couple it with the primes you already have and you're good to go.

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JLTaylor Senior Member • Posts: 1,189
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I've used everything from a fisheye to 600mm in national parks (400mm if it includes backpacking). They are also a great place for macro, and my best photographs of my wife are in natural light. So pretty much every lens I own. What I take depends on what I expect to find. It is very satisfying when I get it right, frustrating when an opportunity is missed because I didn't carry the right lens, and annoying when I carry stuff I never used.

If I am hiking alone specifically for photography I'll take primes and a tripod. I have a good set of 46mm filters that fit most of my primes. If hiking with someone else I take a std. zoom.

If I am in an area where I will be in canyons, or very close to mountains I'll take a ultra wide angle. Sometimes I just stitch.

My generic hiking bag is a std zoom (usually the 12-40), the 75-300mm, and the 8mm body cap.

I find the macro of 12-40 to be good enough for me when backpacking.

I use to carry a fast prime, but I didn't use it very often. I will still take one if I expect to be shooting moving water because I have a set of ND filters that I don't have for the std. zoom.

The biggest variable is what wildlife I am likely to see.

If I expect to see wildlife I'll take a telephoto. Which one depends on what wildlife, how close I expect to get, how far I'm walking, and if I think it will be a quick chance encounter.

If it is an area where I might cross paths with something like a sheep or bear I'll use a super zoom, because I'll be busy taking landscapes and wildlife doesn't wait for you to change lenses. This is a compromise because 140/150mm isn't really enough (most of the time). I use the old 4/3's panaleica, which works great for landscapes, but is a bit large. If I think is likely I will be crossing paths with wildlife, I have taken two bodies, one with a std. zoom and the other a telephoto. If the wildlife is primarily birds I take the longest/fastest lens I can carry.

Or, when it seems too complex I just take a cell phone.

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berni29 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,119
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Hi

When hiking this week I took my EM10 mkII and 12-32mm. Nice and small and light. But there again I take general pictures of scenery and family when out and about. So for me no need for a longer FL in these situations. If there was wildlife involved I would take the 35-100 f2.8.

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drmarkf Contributing Member • Posts: 951
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For this I take the 12-35 and 35-100 f2.8 Panasonics: lighter and smaller than the Olympus equivalents and they share the same filter size and are weather resistant (with the E-M1). They don't focus very closely so I'd also take the Oly 60mm macro. This is also my basic foreign travel kit.

I suppose for the Panasonics against the 14-150 one has to balance zoom range, volume, weight, cost, max aperture and knowing you'll always have the correct lens on: only you can decide where the sweet spot lies (plus what else you will be using the lenses for).

I do recommend MindShift Gear's Panorama photo backpacks for daysack use and I think they've now produced some larger models that might suit your 2-3 day hikes.

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TomFid Veteran Member • Posts: 4,000
Re: Hiking in national parks, lens suggestions?

apekkpul wrote:

Ideally I would like to manage with one all-around zoom and one prime. For example, I would purchase Panasonic 14-140mm (ii) and use it for landscape photos/videos, and use Panny 20mm for low light situations.

This sounds like a great idea to me. I've used the mk i as my sole lens for a lot of hiking. It's not sealed, so I always keep a gallon ziploc bag in my pack, just in case. When it's not wide enough, I shoot a pano. The 20 is so tiny you'd hardly notice it, so why not?

I also carry the Oly 12-40 pro alone from time to time. I love its sharpness, but I miss the long end.

Michael M Fliegel
Michael M Fliegel Veteran Member • Posts: 3,683
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The 75-300 is essential for wildlife in National Parks. You may not use it much but there are some opportunities requiring the reach. Otherwise, your 12-50 should serve you well. Do not carry too much and do not forget several extra batteries.

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maljo@inreach.com Veteran Member • Posts: 8,198
Three primes and a tripod

Backpacking obviously limits the choices due to size/weight, but puts the photographer out there in the best light (sunrise, sunset, storms breaking up).

I would take:  12 mm, 25 mm, 75 mm Olympus lenses and a light weight tripod.  I might substitute the 60 macro for the 75 if wildflowers were a priority.

I would bring a plastic bag to cover camera during rain.

Have a lens shade for each lens to keep rain off the lens and to prevent flair.

maljo

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kramerica Contributing Member • Posts: 658
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I often go out with nothing by my Oly 9-18. It's extremely compact (about the same size as the oly kit lens collapsed), takes a threaded filter so I can use a polarizer, and at the 18mm end is long enough to provide some flexibility.

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Sa7724473 Senior Member • Posts: 2,029
Re: Hiking in national parks, lens suggestions?

apekkpul wrote:

Ideally I would like to manage with one all-around zoom and one prime. For example, I would purchase Panasonic 14-140mm (ii) and use it for landscape photos/videos, and use Panny 20mm for low light situations.

I will also take LX100 and iPhone 6s with me, and a hiking pole with a camera mount so that stabilize cameras if needed.

This is the right general direction, IMO.

Remember that here in Norway, as also in Finland, you'll have very long daylight hours if hiking around June-July, so basically you could almost do it all with the 14-140. Maybe add one wide or semi-wide for indoors e.g. the 17mm 1.8. Or the 20mm as you said.

But you could pare it down some more. Maybe you dont need the LX100. Its a bit of a tweener. If you really needed to you can easily buy a used M43 body here - lots of them on Finn.no. If you must bring your own backup, You'd probably get more utility out of having something like the GM5 or GM1 as a 2nd body.

Also remember that you might encounter dampness and or rain, so the more the bring, the more you have to protect and care for. I wouldnt bring anything more than absolutely necessary.

Art_P
Art_P Forum Pro • Posts: 10,114
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I'd start with the 14-150 (II) and suspect that would get the most use.

Add the 9-18 for those dramatic vistas (and it doesn't add too much weight or bulk) or maybe just the FE body cap lens if you really want to save weight.

If you need more reach in a small package, check out the Tokina 300 mm mirror lens, or if you can fit a larger lens, the 75-300/100-300

The 20 mm is so tiny, there's no reason not to take it.

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