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2015 BCN .. what will happen..

Started Dec 26, 2015 | Polls
OP (unknown member) Forum Pro • Posts: 11,521
Re: BCN awards - Olympus #1
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nnowak wrote:

rrccad wrote:

well the BCN awards are out.

here's the press announcement.

Since I cant seem to translate the images; all I get out of this is that Olympus was indeed #1 on mirrorless.

Anyone that can translate the rest.. well, thanks in advance

http://www.bcn.co.jp/press/press.html?no=311

from what I gather the official awards are released on Jan 29th.

Formatting got a little funky, but try this...

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bcn.co.jp%2Fsys_imgs%2Fco_press%2Fpdf%2F2016011512022069467.pdf&edit-text=&act=url

nice! better than I got.

rats the table only gives the first place winners.

so:

DSLR - Canon
P&S - Canon
MILC - Olympus

OP (unknown member) Forum Pro • Posts: 11,521
Re: m4/3 trending......

Vlasty wrote:

rrccad wrote:

tedolf wrote:

I think what the graph shows is that as more and more serious photographers consider mirrorless to be a viable option, lens catalog strength (Canon's forte in the DLSR world) is winning the day. Oly and Panny have 38% of the market, and Sony's share of the APS-c mirrorless market is shrinking fast (cannibalized by the A7, et al.)

IMO .. perhaps not.

Olympus has been selling all year at 60-65% of for E-PL6 kits and around 55-60% off OM D-E10/II kits.

Usually the top 10 in amazon has no less than 8 units for 50% or more off at any one particular time. Some of this I think is also exporters - where they can purchase cheap bundles, break it down and sell for a profit.

However - Japan seems to be price centric - which is why year prior Sony had the large bumps in sales - they were selling off old NEX units. the A6000, while a very nice camera, simply hasn't made that kind of inroad into japan sales. A7 series? non-existent.

Personally I think it's more a sign that Japan consumers are being very price and brand conscious lately versus a serious photographer trend.

I have lived here for many years and concur. The level of brand loyalty here when it comes to Nikon or Canon makes the iPhone vs. Android debates in the states look sort of cute. Price is also indeed a prime driver.

As soon as the original M hit the magic $400 mark I started seeing them on the street. The past year I can say that the number 1 mirrorless unit I see on the streets is the M series distantly followed by Olympus. I'm sure people are using the 4/3 system but I just don't see many of them. Three years ago the NEX line seemed to gain traction then slowly disappeared. Very rare to see a Sony now. Four years ago you could go nowhere without seeing a Nikon 1 and that also slowly faded.

you know that's probably a little depressing when it comes to the fortunes of the M line up though.

granted the M's UI and touch screen is really good, which I'm sure is an easy transition to something better than a smartphone.

I know that every person I've handed an M to, they manage without any instruction from me.

tedolf
tedolf Forum Pro • Posts: 29,525
Olympus #1
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rrccad wrote:

nnowak wrote:

rrccad wrote:

well the BCN awards are out.

here's the press announcement.

Since I cant seem to translate the images; all I get out of this is that Olympus was indeed #1 on mirrorless.

Anyone that can translate the rest.. well, thanks in advance

http://www.bcn.co.jp/press/press.html?no=311

from what I gather the official awards are released on Jan 29th.

Formatting got a little funky, but try this...

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bcn.co.jp%2Fsys_imgs%2Fco_press%2Fpdf%2F2016011512022069467.pdf&edit-text=&act=url

nice! better than I got.

rats the table only gives the first place winners.

so:

DSLR - Canon
P&S - Canon
MILC - Olympus

So, Tedolph was correct......

lenses win.

TEdolph

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OP (unknown member) Forum Pro • Posts: 11,521
Re: Olympus #1
1

rrccad wrote:

nnowak wrote:

rrccad wrote:

well the BCN awards are out.

here's the press announcement.

Since I cant seem to translate the images; all I get out of this is that Olympus was indeed #1 on mirrorless.

Anyone that can translate the rest.. well, thanks in advance

http://www.bcn.co.jp/press/press.html?no=311

from what I gather the official awards are released on Jan 29th.

Formatting got a little funky, but try this...

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bcn.co.jp%2Fsys_imgs%2Fco_press%2Fpdf%2F2016011512022069467.pdf&edit-text=&act=url

nice! better than I got.

rats the table only gives the first place winners.

so:

DSLR - Canon
P&S - Canon
MILC - Olympus

So, Tedolph was correct......

lenses win.

TEdolph

The fact that Olympus was giving away cameras last year win

OP (unknown member) Forum Pro • Posts: 11,521
Re: Olympus #1
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annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd

the results are in.

sony seems to be disappearing in Japan.

a) no longer in the top 3 vendors for either P&S and SLR's

b) dropped pretty far % wise to 2nd place in MILC (lost 10% marketshare)

OM, Sony and Canon.. I was off with my guess.. close though, however canon certainly didn't gain as much as i thought.

Vlasty Senior Member • Posts: 1,856
Re: Olympus #1

annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd

the results are in.

sony seems to be disappearing in Japan.

a) no longer in the top 3 vendors for either P&S and SLR's

b) dropped pretty far % wise to 2nd place in MILC (lost 10% marketshare)

OM, Sony and Canon.. I was off with my guess.. close though, however canon certainly didn't gain as much as i thought.

To be honest I am a bit supposed that Sony actually placed in the top three for mirrorless. I just don't see many of them out on the streets compared to the M this past two years in Japan.
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OP (unknown member) Forum Pro • Posts: 11,521
Re: Olympus #1

Vlasty wrote:

annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd

the results are in.

sony seems to be disappearing in Japan.

a) no longer in the top 3 vendors for either P&S and SLR's

b) dropped pretty far % wise to 2nd place in MILC (lost 10% marketshare)

OM, Sony and Canon.. I was off with my guess.. close though, however canon certainly didn't gain as much as i thought.

To be honest I am a bit supposed that Sony actually placed in the top three for mirrorless. I just don't see many of them out on the streets compared to the M this past two years in Japan.

I was surprised they got so high.  alot of products I guess? A7 gen I and gen II, A6000, 5100,etc.

however. one thing to note is the fact that Mirrorless in Japan took a tumble last year by the looks of it only being around 30% of shipments.

doing some rough math, sony fell to around 7.5% of marketshare overall from 15% the year prior.

(probably explaining some of your thoughts)

RedFox88 Forum Pro • Posts: 30,738
Re: 2015 BCN .. what will happen..

You know the bcn is just Japan which about only 10% of worldwide camera sales. Different regions sell differently.

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