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SIGMA DP2Q a year in review

Started Dec 24, 2015 | User reviews
Lord metroid
Lord metroid Regular Member • Posts: 476
SIGMA DP2Q a year in review
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So I have had the camera for a little bit more than a year now. As such I find it appropriate to look back and evaluate the purchase. To be honest, as a whole, I am not really enjoying the SIGMA DP2Q.

  • The camera is too big and bulky. On my last trip I brought the camera with me in my luggage. However it stayed in the luggage most of the time. A camera at home is a completely useless camera.
  • The main dial have started to act up, registering input when there isn't any turning of the dial. Which makes the shutter-speed or ISO selection rather difficult as it keeps moving. I wanted to get it fixed so I contacted the company for a warranty repair which they told me I certainly could get but if they found no fault with the camera I would have to pay the troubleshooting out of my own pocket. Because the dial doesn't always act up, I don't dare to send it in for repairs.
  • A lot of events and sightseeing happen at badly lit environments like indoors and at night. I am simply not able to capture satisfactory good quality images half of the time I would want to.
  • There is no RAW processor that works for Linux. So the only thing left for me to do is to get the JPGs directly from the camera. For normal Cannon or Nikon cameras with common Bayer sensors there are RAW processing software available for Linux and I would very much like to use them to develop the photographs.
 Lord metroid's gear list:Lord metroid's gear list
Sigma DP2s Sigma dp2 Quattro
Sigma dp2 Quattro
20 megapixels • 3 screen • 45 mm
Announced: Feb 13, 2014
Lord metroid's score
1.5
Average community score
3.7
bad for good for
Kids / pets
mediocre
Action / sports
mediocre
Landscapes / scenery
excellent
Portraits
okay
Low light (without flash)
awful
Flash photography (social)
awful
Studio / still life
good
= community average
Sigma dp2 Quattro
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TN Args
TN Args Forum Pro • Posts: 10,683
Re: SIGMA DP2Q a year in review
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Thanks for your review, but it reads like a review by someone who bought the camera with no idea of its strengths and weaknesses and most appropriate uses, bought it anyways, and used it mainly for the things it was not meant to do. I'm surprised you didn't complain about the lack of video. In short, you should not have bought this camera, because it was never going to be the camera for you. You chose poorly. You don't buy a camera that has no image stabilisation, no fast lens, and poor high-ISO capability, then complain about your results "at badly lit environments like indoors and at night". A tripod might change that, but you already complained that it is too big and bulky, like you really want a pocket camera. Why on earth didn't you buy an RX100?

In particular, buying a camera that has no raw support for your computer, then blaming the camera, is unbelievable. That's like buying a car that can't be registered in your country.

Regarding the warranty issue, you just have to 'man up' and send it in. Make a short video demonstrating the issue occurring, and send it in with the camera for repair. Remind them that an intermittent fault is still a fault and must be fixed.

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Arg

 TN Args's gear list:TN Args's gear list
Sigma dp0 Quattro Panasonic Lumix DMC-GX7 Olympus E-M5 II Sony a7R III Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 9-18mm F4.0-5.6 +10 more
Ceistinne
Ceistinne Veteran Member • Posts: 3,256
Re: SIGMA DP2Q a year in review
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Lord metroid wrote:

So I have had the camera for a little bit more than a year now. As such I find it appropriate to look back and evaluate the purchase. To be honest, as a whole, I am not really enjoying the SIGMA DP2Q.

  • The camera is too big and bulky. On my last trip I brought the camera with me in my luggage. However it stayed in the luggage most of the time. A camera at home is a completely useless camera.
  • The main dial have started to act up, registering input when there isn't any turning of the dial. Which makes the shutter-speed or ISO selection rather difficult as it keeps moving. I wanted to get it fixed so I contacted the company for a warranty repair which they told me I certainly could get but if they found no fault with the camera I would have to pay the troubleshooting out of my own pocket. Because the dial doesn't always act up, I don't dare to send it in for repairs.
  • A lot of events and sightseeing happen at badly lit environments like indoors and at night. I am simply not able to capture satisfactory good quality images half of the time I would want to.
  • There is no RAW processor that works for Linux. So the only thing left for me to do is to get the JPGs directly from the camera. For normal Cannon or Nikon cameras with common Bayer sensors there are RAW processing software available for Linux and I would very much like to use them to develop the photographs.

Lord Metroid,

Reading your  "Review" I am amused that you blame the camera for your own poor judgement in making choices and I would have to agree word for word with TN Args reply to you.

I have the dp2 since it's release and it has worked flawlessy for me and as to processing images I use SPP on a Windows PC and would not expect it to work on a platform for which it was not written.

I find it hard to believe that your "Review" is serious.

S

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Sigma SD1 Merrill Sigma dp2 Quattro Sigma SD9 Sigma SD10 Sigma SD14 +5 more
marcodadofoto
marcodadofoto Senior Member • Posts: 2,982
Re: SIGMA DP2Q a year in review
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Lord Metroid,
a Sigma camera can be a wonderful tool in your hands.
You know it.
Just stop complaining and start learn photography.

eke2k6 Regular Member • Posts: 209
Re: SIGMA DP2Q a year in review
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marcodadofoto wrote:

Lord Metroid,
a Sigma camera can be a wonderful tool in your hands.
You know it.
Just stop complaining and start learn photography.

Reading all the replies to Lord Metroid's review is the reason why this forum of DPReview sucks.

I agree with every single thing he says, despite the fact that learned photography on a DP1 - the original! The Merrills worked slightly better for me due to the ability to shoot while the buffer cleared, but that's about where it ends.

Let's back up a bit, and list why he's right.

1) A $1000 pocketable camera is only usable up to ISO 400. Anything after is virtually non-existent. I've had horrible luck trying to take simple indoor photos during a meal with friends or family. Let's not even try to talk about bringing the camera to an event like Mardi Gras in New Orleans. Focusing was IMPOSSIBLE, and the images looked horrible to the ridiculous noise I got when I went to ISO 800 and above. What use is "sharpness" when you can't even get a camera to focus properly.

2) "Hold on, the camera is still writing to the SD card" is a line I used sooo many times when people asked to see a photo I just took. That's virtually unacceptable in any modern camera. Even the dinosaur 5D Mk1 allowed me to review images instantly, not to talk of the likes of my D750 or D800.

3) Focus. In anything other than brightly lit areas, you may as well manual focus.

4) Battery life. LOL. Most bayer cameras have to do intense computation to provide a finished image. The entire claim to fame of the foveon sensor is that it doesn't have to do this. So why on earth is the battery life so poor? My X100s was a far more advanced camera, yet it could squeeze out multiple times the amount of shots the Sigma cameras can.

5) Since my DP1 days, I've come to own the DP2M, Dp2Q, X100S, 5D Mk1, 5D Mk2, D700, D750, D800, and a few others I forget to mention. Every camera post-Sigma has given me better rounded image quality than the DPs have.

6) The other claim to fame of the DP cameras is the image quality or sharpness. Everyone here claims that it's somehow the benefit of the foveon sensor. However, the Art lenses have shown where the true power of the DP series has always come from...the lenses. With the APS-C crop factor, one is basically harnessing a Sigma Art lens at f/4. Any test chart will show the absurd sharpness these lenses are capable of at f/4 to f/5.6. That, plus the ridiculous amount of sharpening that SPP does to photos, and that's the Dp formula right there. I use the 35mm Art on my D750 nowadays, and the images I get surpass anything the DP2M or DP2Q could ever give me.

7) Sigma ...Photo ...Pro. Nothing else needs to be said.

So, ladies and gentlemen, PLEASE stop with the nonsensical attacks on a photographer's skill level whenever critiques of the Sigma cameras are presented. I admire the company, but it's clear their cameras are lacking in so many vital ways. The SD write time issue is a comical example of this.

Before anyone tries to talk about me, or my skill, let me present my website with images shot from both Sigma and non-Sigma cameras:  http://www.timshelxeke.com/

TN Args
TN Args Forum Pro • Posts: 10,683
Re: SIGMA DP2Q a year in review

I have replied here, rather than cross-post.

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Arg

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Sigma dp0 Quattro Panasonic Lumix DMC-GX7 Olympus E-M5 II Sony a7R III Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 9-18mm F4.0-5.6 +10 more
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