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Lenses for M43

Started Dec 17, 2015 | Discussions
emzee New Member • Posts: 18
Lenses for M43

I have finally decided to get the M43 body (Panasonic GX8) and chose Panasonic 15mm lens as the first lens (I will be adding Panasonic 25mm lens soon). Now I am trying to find out a couple more lenses for me. Following are the choices and I am trying to get two lenses from this list

1) Panasonic 12-32mm

2) Panasonic 14-140mm

3) Panasonic 42.5mm

4) Panasonic or Olympus 40-150mm

The selection is very hard for the zoom lens. Since I am not going for expensive zooms like Panasonic 12-35mm or Olympus 12-40mm, it is very tough to select a mid-level zoom lens. I might be using this lens for video as well. Originally I was planning on Panasonic 14-140mm, but I heard a lot of complaints that it is jittery and cannot be used for video.

Could someone please provide your recommendations and suggestions?

Regards,

emzee

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Oli4D Contributing Member • Posts: 530
Re: Lenses for M43

emzee wrote:

I have finally decided to get the M43 body (Panasonic GX8) and chose Panasonic 15mm lens as the first lens (I will be adding Panasonic 25mm lens soon). Now I am trying to find out a couple more lenses for me. Following are the choices and I am trying to get two lenses from this list

1) Panasonic 12-32mm

2) Panasonic 14-140mm

3) Panasonic 42.5mm

4) Panasonic or Olympus 40-150mm

The selection is very hard for the zoom lens. Since I am not going for expensive zooms like Panasonic 12-35mm or Olympus 12-40mm, it is very tough to select a mid-level zoom lens. I might be using this lens for video as well. Originally I was planning on Panasonic 14-140mm, but I heard a lot of complaints that it is jittery and cannot be used for video.

Could someone please provide your recommendations and suggestions?

Regards,

emzee

Well if you don't wanna go for the 12-35 2.8, then the 12-32 is the lens to get.

Very small and very sharp for a "cheap" zoom lens.

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dontfret
dontfret Senior Member • Posts: 2,341
Re: Lenses for M43
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one zoom not on your list that I am delighted with the PL45-175.  OIS, internal focusing, power zoom as well as manual zoom, great for video.  I like it as a mid-level tele, and with a close up lens filter like the Minolta 0, great for closeup for butterflies, flowers when the Oly 60mm macro is just too much.

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Impulses Forum Pro • Posts: 10,039
Re: Lenses for M43
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I love the 12-32 for it's size, IQ, and the fact that it goes noticeably wider than the rest... But if you also need Moore more reach it'd be a poor choice. I really like the 42.5 tho, which I got to replace the Oly 45...

It's got OIS so it's decently usable got video, and the closer focusing distance makes it a bit more versatile, in addition to being a great portrait FL obviously. I find people shots pretty effortless with it so I'd personally go for that and whichever zoom...

The 14-140 would be a good all arounder, potential video jitter issues aside. It's worth studying that if you're shooting handheld tho.

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Tom Axford Forum Pro • Posts: 10,100
Panasonic 35-100/4.0-5.6 ?

If you value portability, the Pana 35-100/4.0-5.6 is small and lightweight, but an excellent lens. I use mine often and really like it.

Astrotripper Veteran Member • Posts: 8,676
three options

emzee wrote:

1) Panasonic 12-32mm

Probably the best regarded kit zoom in the whole system. A gem of a lens

2) Panasonic 14-140mm

I would personally not bother. But it really depends on your needs and shooting style.

4) Panasonic or Olympus 40-150mm

Instead of those, I would consider either 35-100/4.0-5.6 if you want really small, or 45-175/4.0-5.6 if you want better reach and better quality.

To sum it up. I'd go for one of those three configurations

  1. 12-32 + 35-100 - for ultimate compactness
  2. 12-32 + 45-175 - for a tiny walk-around kit (12-32) and a robust option when more reach is needed
  3. 14-140 + 42.5/1.7 - one all-around lens and something for those bokehlicious shots
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OP emzee New Member • Posts: 18
Re: three options

Astrotripper wrote:

emzee wrote:

1) Panasonic 12-32mm

Probably the best regarded kit zoom in the whole system. A gem of a lens

2) Panasonic 14-140mm

I would personally not bother. But it really depends on your needs and shooting style.

4) Panasonic or Olympus 40-150mm

Instead of those, I would consider either 35-100/4.0-5.6 if you want really small, or 45-175/4.0-5.6 if you want better reach and better quality.

To sum it up. I'd go for one of those three configurations

  1. 12-32 + 35-100 - for ultimate compactness
  2. 12-32 + 45-175 - for a tiny walk-around kit (12-32) and a robust option when more reach is needed
  3. 14-140 + 42.5/1.7 - one all-around lens and something for those bokehlicious shots

Thanks. I am thinking of getting 12-32 + 35-100 (probably used one to save the money) and 42.5mm F1.7.

How good or bad is the 45-175mm lens? Heard that it is a lens with all kinds of issues - image quality, IS problems, build problems etc.

Regards,

emzee

Impulses Forum Pro • Posts: 10,039
Re: three options

Astrotripper wrote:

emzee wrote:

1) Panasonic 12-32mm

Probably the best regarded kit zoom in the whole system. A gem of a lens

2) Panasonic 14-140mm

I would personally not bother. But it really depends on your needs and shooting style.

4) Panasonic or Olympus 40-150mm

Instead of those, I would consider either 35-100/4.0-5.6 if you want really small, or 45-175/4.0-5.6 if you want better reach and better quality.

To sum it up. I'd go for one of those three configurations

  1. 12-32 + 35-100 - for ultimate compactness
  2. 12-32 + 45-175 - for a tiny walk-around kit (12-32) and a robust option when more reach is needed
  3. 14-140 + 42.5/1.7 - one all-around lens and something for those bokehlicious shots

Thanks. I am thinking of getting 12-32 + 35-100 (probably used one to save the money) and 42.5mm F1.7.

How good or bad is the 45-175mm lens? Heard that it is a lens with all kinds of issues - image quality, IS problems, build problems etc.

Regards,

emzee

9-18 + 12-32 + 42.5 + 35-100 is often my day or outdoors kit, covers just about everything for me. Often I'll leave behind the 35-100 or the 42.5 in favor of a fisheye tho, but I love that all those lenses are so so compact. If there was no 35-100 I'd probably have no tele longer than a 60mm.

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dontfret
dontfret Senior Member • Posts: 2,341
Re: three options

How good or bad is the 45-175mm lens? Heard that it is a lens with all kinds of issues - image quality, IS problems, build problems etc.

Regards,

emzee

Perhaps I have an excellent sample but I love mine.  Compact, focuses fast and accurately on my GX7 or G5, love an internal zoom.  Power zoom is smooth and silent.

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maltmoose Veteran Member • Posts: 3,051
Re: three options

I would like the 15 1.7 pany but i wouldn't be rushing to get the the new 25mm 1.7, its too close to 15mm and also not the best 25mm. Id rather get the more compact oly 25 1.8, even over the 25mm 1.4, which is again big.

My oly 45mm 1.8 is a real nice lens on my gm1 so id recommend that instead.

12-32 is a surprisingly nice compact lens.

i also have the 35-100 and the 45-175, both are decent, ive not had them long to decide which i prefer best but the focus on the 35-100 is faster and more accurate that the 45-175, not to say the 45-175 is bad or anything. depends if you want more reach or more compact, i like both the 175 is real handy though and actually suits the tiny gm1 well as does the 35-100.

All that said if i had a huge gx8 id get the 12-35 35-100 pro lenses.

Karld70 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,553
Re: three options
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Impulses wrote:

Astrotripper wrote:

emzee wrote:

1) Panasonic 12-32mm

Probably the best regarded kit zoom in the whole system. A gem of a lens

2) Panasonic 14-140mm

I would personally not bother. But it really depends on your needs and shooting style.

4) Panasonic or Olympus 40-150mm

Instead of those, I would consider either 35-100/4.0-5.6 if you want really small, or 45-175/4.0-5.6 if you want better reach and better quality.

To sum it up. I'd go for one of those three configurations

  1. 12-32 + 35-100 - for ultimate compactness
  2. 12-32 + 45-175 - for a tiny walk-around kit (12-32) and a robust option when more reach is needed
  3. 14-140 + 42.5/1.7 - one all-around lens and something for those bokehlicious shots

Thanks. I am thinking of getting 12-32 + 35-100 (probably used one to save the money) and 42.5mm F1.7.

How good or bad is the 45-175mm lens? Heard that it is a lens with all kinds of issues - image quality, IS problems, build problems etc.

Regards,

emzee

9-18 + 12-32 + 42.5 + 35-100 is often my day or outdoors kit, covers just about everything for me. Often I'll leave behind the 35-100 or the 42.5 in favor of a fisheye tho, but I love that all those lenses are so so compact. If there was no 35-100 I'd probably have no tele longer than a 60mm.

I like to keep my kit on the small and light size.  If you are not looking for the 2.8 zooms, I really recommend the Pan 12-32 & 35-100.  Very small and light for such a range.  I pair them with a prime often as my light outing kit (45 1.8 or 15 1.7 depending on what I'm doing that day)

justgo99
justgo99 Regular Member • Posts: 495
Re: Lenses for M43

emzee wrote:

I have finally decided to get the M43 body (Panasonic GX8) and chose Panasonic 15mm lens as the first lens (I will be adding Panasonic 25mm lens soon). Now I am trying to find out a couple more lenses for me. Following are the choices and I am trying to get two lenses from this list

1) Panasonic 12-32mm

2) Panasonic 14-140mm

3) Panasonic 42.5mm

4) Panasonic or Olympus 40-150mm

The selection is very hard for the zoom lens. Since I am not going for expensive zooms like Panasonic 12-35mm or Olympus 12-40mm, it is very tough to select a mid-level zoom lens. I might be using this lens for video as well. Originally I was planning on Panasonic 14-140mm, but I heard a lot of complaints that it is jittery and cannot be used for video.

Could someone please provide your recommendations and suggestions?

Regards,

emzee

I must ask why you don't want to go for any of the f/2.8 pro lenses? They may cost more ($700+) but they are easily the most versatile, highest performing lenses, especially if you want to do more run-and-gun sort of video. Primes are fantastic, make no mistake, but the pro lenses do wide, they do short tele, they're fast and they're sharp, so it would make sense. They're also weathers sealed if that matters.

I would probably recommend that you steer clear of the superzooms such as the 14-140mm. They may be versatile, but their slow aperture combined with the middling ISO performance of m4/3 means that they won't be very good for low light at all.

The 12-32 is a cracker of a lens for its size, but it has no MF ring and if you were going for such a compact lens then you wouldn't be getting a GX8, a quite sizable camera. As a mid-level zoom, the kit 14-42mm will do a decent job if you want to save more money for primes.

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OP emzee New Member • Posts: 18
Re: Lenses for M43

justgo99 wrote:

I must ask why you don't want to go for any of the f/2.8 pro lenses? They may cost more ($700+) but they are easily the most versatile, highest performing lenses, especially if you want to do more run-and-gun sort of video. Primes are fantastic, make no mistake, but the pro lenses do wide, they do short tele, they're fast and they're sharp, so it would make sense. They're also weathers sealed if that matters.

I would probably recommend that you steer clear of the superzooms such as the 14-140mm. They may be versatile, but their slow aperture combined with the middling ISO performance of m4/3 means that they won't be very good for low light at all.

The 12-32 is a cracker of a lens for its size, but it has no MF ring and if you were going for such a compact lens then you wouldn't be getting a GX8, a quite sizable camera. As a mid-level zoom, the kit 14-42mm will do a decent job if you want to save more money for primes.

Thanks. 14-140 is now ruled out as I read many issues with that lens. For standard zoom, I am trying to find whether 12-32mm or 14-42mm II or the 14-45mm is the right one. I am planning to use them for sometime and then upgrade to F2.8 zooms later (if needed). The price of these 3 zoom lenses are the same range, but not sure which one to pick. I may not need the 12mm wide end. Other than that is there any advantage to 12-32mm in terms of image quality?

Regards,

emzee

jim stirling
jim stirling Veteran Member • Posts: 7,356
Re: Lenses for M43

emzee wrote:

justgo99 wrote:

I must ask why you don't want to go for any of the f/2.8 pro lenses? They may cost more ($700+) but they are easily the most versatile, highest performing lenses, especially if you want to do more run-and-gun sort of video. Primes are fantastic, make no mistake, but the pro lenses do wide, they do short tele, they're fast and they're sharp, so it would make sense. They're also weathers sealed if that matters.

I would probably recommend that you steer clear of the superzooms such as the 14-140mm. They may be versatile, but their slow aperture combined with the middling ISO performance of m4/3 means that they won't be very good for low light at all.

The 12-32 is a cracker of a lens for its size, but it has no MF ring and if you were going for such a compact lens then you wouldn't be getting a GX8, a quite sizable camera. As a mid-level zoom, the kit 14-42mm will do a decent job if you want to save more money for primes.

Thanks. 14-140 is now ruled out as I read many issues with that lens. For standard zoom, I am trying to find whether 12-32mm or 14-42mm II or the 14-45mm is the right one. I am planning to use them for sometime and then upgrade to F2.8 zooms later (if needed). The price of these 3 zoom lenses are the same range, but not sure which one to pick. I may not need the 12mm wide end. Other than that is there any advantage to 12-32mm in terms of image quality?

Regards,

emzee

I have the 14-45, and the Panasonic 14-42mm II, the 14-45mm is a great kit lens and can be picked up used at a good price. However I got the 14-42II along with the GX8 and it seems to be very close to the performance of the 14-45mm with the advantages of being smaller and lighter another advantage for the 14-42II is that it is compatible with the dual-IS of the GX8 , the 14-45mm lens is not.

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LMNCT Veteran Member • Posts: 4,908
Re: Lenses for M43

The 12-32 and 42.5 f 1.7 are both excellent choices. Instead of the 40 - 150, take a look at the 45 - 175 or the 45 - 150. The first lens is a non-extending design and having the longer reach (350mm in 35mm terms) can be handy. It is also sharp. The 45 - 150 is inexpensive and a good performer.

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LMNCT Veteran Member • Posts: 4,908
Re: three options

My experience wit the 45-175 has been very good. I have used it on Panasonic bodies and I believe that it plays best with bodies from Panasonic.

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OP emzee New Member • Posts: 18
Re: Lenses for M43

jim stirling wrote:

emzee wrote:

I have the 14-45, and the Panasonic 14-42mm II, the 14-45mm is a great kit lens and can be picked up used at a good price. However I got the 14-42II along with the GX8 and it seems to be very close to the performance of the 14-45mm with the advantages of being smaller and lighter another advantage for the 14-42II is that it is compatible with the dual-IS of the GX8 , the 14-45mm lens is not.

Thanks. Is the image quality of 14-45mm better than 14-42mm II lens? A lot of people have mentioned about the superior quality of 14-45mm and I am trying to find out whether the 14-42mm II matches that. The new 12-32mm is also in my consideration. The primary criteria being image quality.

Regards,

emzee

LMNCT Veteran Member • Posts: 4,908
Re: Lenses for M43

When considering the 12-32, remember that it was manufactured for the GM1 and GM5 so it is a very small lens. The 35-100 mini is another lens that is aimed at the GM series. If you do not need the manual focus capability, the 12-32 is a sharp, lightweight lens. The 35-100 mini is also sharp and worth the money...as is the 42.5 1.7. Add those to the 15 1.7 and you will have a capable group of lenses. As for the 14-42 II, you should have no problems with that lens. I had the 14 - 45. It was the "kit" lens with the Panasonic G1. After acquiring the 14 - 42 II, I gave the original 14 - 45 to a friend and kept the newer and lighter lens. Either one will work well.

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jim stirling Veteran Member • Posts: 7,356
Re: Lenses for M43

emzee wrote:

jim stirling wrote:

emzee wrote:

I have the 14-45, and the Panasonic 14-42mm II, the 14-45mm is a great kit lens and can be picked up used at a good price. However I got the 14-42II along with the GX8 and it seems to be very close to the performance of the 14-45mm with the advantages of being smaller and lighter another advantage for the 14-42II is that it is compatible with the dual-IS of the GX8 , the 14-45mm lens is not.

Thanks. Is the image quality of 14-45mm better than 14-42mm II lens? A lot of people have mentioned about the superior quality of 14-45mm and I am trying to find out whether the 14-42mm II matches that. The new 12-32mm is also in my consideration. The primary criteria being image quality.

Regards,

emzee

I think the 14-45mm is a wee bit better though not hugely so, I would also suggest that it has a bit better build quality, but the 14-42II wins for me due to the reasons above. I have no experience of the 12-32 though it seems to get decent reviews and it certainly wins on size.

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Karld70 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,553
Re: Lenses for M43

emzee wrote:

jim stirling wrote:

emzee wrote:

I have the 14-45, and the Panasonic 14-42mm II, the 14-45mm is a great kit lens and can be picked up used at a good price. However I got the 14-42II along with the GX8 and it seems to be very close to the performance of the 14-45mm with the advantages of being smaller and lighter another advantage for the 14-42II is that it is compatible with the dual-IS of the GX8 , the 14-45mm lens is not.

Thanks. Is the image quality of 14-45mm better than 14-42mm II lens? A lot of people have mentioned about the superior quality of 14-45mm and I am trying to find out whether the 14-42mm II matches that. The new 12-32mm is also in my consideration. The primary criteria being image quality.

Also think about how wide you like. 12 is noticeably wider then 14 (24 vs 28). Obviously you are going to take a loss on the other end. I find I use the 12-32 more at 12 then I thought I would have, and often you can not "back up" to get wider. I found that at the 32 end at times I would like a little more, but that can be fixed with a little cropping. Really a personal choice, but something to think about. If you also have (or getting) something like the 9-18 it's less of an issue, but if this is going to be it for you at the wide end, it worth thinking about.

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