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finally have what we always wanted: HEVC support in Adobe Premiere!

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blassox New Member • Posts: 6
finally have what we always wanted: HEVC support in Adobe Premiere!
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Update your CC installation to 2015.1, take a deep breath, and start editing

Thanks adobe!

PS: first impression is very good, i7 5820K seems to work smooth with NX1 pro grade footage

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LiveM Veteran Member • Posts: 3,836
Re: finally have what we always wanted: HEVC support in Adobe Premiere!

Even more important is Lightroom supoort.

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Bubbleboy Forum Member • Posts: 94
Re: finally have what we always wanted: HEVC support in Adobe Premiere!
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Martin Caie wrote:

Even more important is Lightroom supoort.

Yep, Adobe always supports Nikon products

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aLf4 Forum Member • Posts: 86
Re: finally have what we always wanted: HEVC support in Adobe Premiere!
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such big news for us... finally. It was a pain in the ass to have to convert to ProRes.. and the size of the files were huge!!

Bengaldad Junior Member • Posts: 28
Re: finally have what we always wanted: HEVC support in Adobe Premiere!

The latest version of Lightroom does not support importing or playback of h.265 (HEVC). The latest version of Premiere Pro CC 2015 does, but not Lightroom.

Tom

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LiveM Veteran Member • Posts: 3,836
Re: finally have what we always wanted: HEVC support in Adobe Premiere!

Which is ridiculous, isn't it?

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MountaineerMan Regular Member • Posts: 134
Re: finally have what we always wanted: HEVC support in Adobe Premiere!
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I have adobe premiere pro CS6 is there a way to upgrade my version to get H.265 support without subscribing to CC?

P.S I am also looking forward to light room support of H.265

Bengaldad Junior Member • Posts: 28
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Martin Caie wrote:

Which is ridiculous, isn't it?

Absolutely and totally ridiculous!

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LiveM Veteran Member • Posts: 3,836
Re: finally have what we always wanted: HEVC support in Adobe Premiere!

MountaineerMan wrote:

I have adobe premiere pro CS6 is there a way to upgrade my version to get H.265 support without subscribing to CC?

P.S I am also looking forward to light room support of H.265

CS6 is out of time for upgrades but it doesn't matter as Lightroom and Photoshop are only $10/month.

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jwang88 Regular Member • Posts: 391
Re: finally have what we always wanted: HEVC support in Adobe Premiere!

Wish FCPX could support the h265 file soon.

Happy Daze Contributing Member • Posts: 565
Crushed Blacks ..
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For some reason the H.265 codec in Premiere appears to alter the contrast of the original file of the NX1 resulting in crushed blacks.

I have found that applying the brightness and contrast filter to all clips using these settings brings it back fairly close to the original exposure: brightness -3, contrast -15. (Video Effects, Color Correction, Brightness & Contrast)

Can not fathom how Adobe made such a basic mistake when they have been promising this support for months.

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VisualFX Senior Member • Posts: 1,241
Re: Crushed Blacks ..

Happy Daze wrote:

For some reason the H.265 codec in Premiere appears to alter the contrast of the original file of the NX1 resulting in crushed blacks.

I have found that applying the brightness and contrast filter to all clips using these settings brings it back fairly close to the original exposure: brightness -3, contrast -15. (Video Effects, Color Correction, Brightness & Contrast)

Can not fathom how Adobe made such a basic mistake when they have been promising this support for months.

Sounds like you have something incorrectly set on your side of things? 709 color space?

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Melidonia Regular Member • Posts: 296
Re: Crushed Blacks ..

Happy Daze wrote:

For some reason the H.265 codec in Premiere appears to alter the contrast of the original file of the NX1 resulting in crushed blacks.

I have found that applying the brightness and contrast filter to all clips using these settings brings it back fairly close to the original exposure: brightness -3, contrast -15. (Video Effects, Color Correction, Brightness & Contrast)

Can not fathom how Adobe made such a basic mistake when they have been promising this support for months.

I have the same issue.

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Re: Crushed Blacks ..

do you use 0-255 or 16-235? I get better results with 16-235.

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Happy Daze Contributing Member • Posts: 565
Re: Crushed Blacks ..

VisualFX wrote:

Sounds like you have something incorrectly set on your side of things? 709 color space?

No, I am just comparing a pre-converted file (Samsung Converter) to a direct import on the same timeline. The same file played directly as H.265 in other media players shows far less contrast than the same file played within Premiere.

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Re: Crushed Blacks ..

tecnoworld wrote:

do you use 0-255 or 16-235? I get better results with 16-235.

I see a lot of discussion regarding this matter but I see little point in limiting the capture range or output range of video these days, most modern equipment can handle the full range in playback without an issue.

MikeDPR Regular Member • Posts: 241
Re: Crushed Blacks ..

Happy Daze wrote:

VisualFX wrote:

Sounds like you have something incorrectly set on your side of things? 709 color space?

No, I am just comparing a pre-converted file (Samsung Converter) to a direct import on the same timeline. The same file played directly as H.265 in other media players shows far less contrast than the same file played within Premiere.

Do you have a calibrated monitor? If you run a color profiled monitor, you can get different looks (e.g. colors, gamma) depending on which video player you use. I could be wrong but I believe Premiere Po is color managed while most free media players are not, Media Player Classic being a notable exception and my favorite.

Just throwing out an idea. I have the Premiere Pro CC but haven't tried it since the h265 update.

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Happy Daze Contributing Member • Posts: 565
Crushed Blacks A Sample

A sample:

Photo 1: 4K file converted with Samsung Converter (highest quality) and frame grab taken from Premiere time-line (no effects)

Photo 2: Same 4K file direct import to Premiere (same time-line) frame grab same as above (no effects)

Definite loss of shadow detail in the directly imported sample.

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Re: Crushed Blacks A Sample - The scope View

Luma Scope: 4K file converted with Samsung Converter (highest quality) on Premiere time-line

Luma Scope: Same 4K file direct import to Premiere (same time-line and same frame)

In directly imported file Blacks and highlights are clipping.

Happy Daze Contributing Member • Posts: 565
Re: Crushed Blacks ..

MikeDPR wrote:

Do you have a calibrated monitor? If you run a color profiled monitor, you can get different looks (e.g. colors, gamma) depending on which video player you use. I could be wrong but I believe Premiere Po is color managed while most free media players are not, Media Player Classic being a notable exception and my favorite.

Just throwing out an idea. I have the Premiere Pro CC but haven't tried it since the h265 update.

I have two calibrated monitors which show exactly the same problem.

I have shown a sample in another post which I think is fairly conclusive.

Try it for your self, and let us know your conclusion.

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