Panasonic 20mm 1.7 Mark I or Mark II?

Ger Horgan wrote:

DonParrot wrote:

Ger Horgan wrote:

DonParrot wrote:

Becauae only the unprocessed original shows the numerous deficits of the lens. I diodn't know we were discussing you PP skills. But then...

totally off topic and you know it .. I have posted how many photographs ? on this thread and not all are PP .. to keep you happy .. You do not like the lens - big deal ..

This shows exactly what I said, Unpleasant colours, a somewhat pale/flat picture rendition. Thank you very much.

LOL it was taken with a GX1 camera (in low light on a summers evening) .. PS did I criticize your photos with a off topic lens ..

keep up the good work with the GH4.. now I am ending this discussion .. your contributions to this thread are well inane

You're too kind…

Ulfric M Douglas wrote:

Now I'll go and read the rest of the thread.

lol

Ulfric M Douglas wrote:

Blimey! I just read the rest of the thread

and it seems to be all about Don Parrot's outlandish denigration of the colours and rendering of the 20mm.

Strange stuff.

Maybe his 20mm and the GH4 had a divorce ? It can be upsetting 

Just for example...

And a wee crop...

F.

Ulfric M Douglas wrote:

danielhep wrote:

I'm looking for a fast lens for my Olympus E-M10 Mk 1, and these Panasonic 20mms look perfect for me.

The Lumix 20mm is the only bright pancake for m4/3rds.

My personal 20mm works a lot better than those with reported slow, noisy focus,

The 20mm focuses faster on Panasonic bodies. And surprisingly well in low light.

but even so

if you don't need a pancake the newer bright wideish primes would be a faster tool.

Lumix 15mm, 25mm, Zuiko 17mm, 25mm ...

If I were choosing today, I'd probably get a 15mm, but the 20mm is really quite unique in terms of size and optical performance. It's really that good… contrary to some deluded fixations.

Now I'll go and read the rest of the thread.

You may not want too.

FrankS009 wrote:
And a wee crop...

Hey Frank,

Where did you shoot that? FANTASTIC! Those are old RDC (Rail Diesel Car) Budd Cars. I thought they'd all been scrapped! COOL! I love those things.

When I was in high school I had engineer buddies that worked for the Penn Central… the Needham Branch out of Boston. I rode in the cab of those things all the time… to and from Boston, to Providence and Westerly Rhode Island!! Blowing the whistle at grade crossings. A couple of my buddies even let me run them … WITH passengers! I ran them before I could even drive a car! Really.

I should dig through my old slides and Tri-X prints…

Ger Horgan wrote:

Ulfric M Douglas wrote:

Blimey! I just read the rest of the thread

and it seems to be all about Don Parrot's outlandish denigration of the colours and rendering of the 20mm.

Strange stuff.

Maybe his 20mm and the GH4 had a divorce ? It can be upsetting

The GH4 caught the 20mm mounted on other bodies.

I have the series I, bought secondhand.  It is the only AF MFT lens in my bag and I just had to have it.

AF on the EM1 is a tad slow and rather noisy.  Since I don't do video and I am a habitual prefocusser to WYSISWG with the EVF, it's never been an issue.

I can recommend the series I too.

Maybe I got a good copy, but the IQ and rendering are as good as the reviews said.

Andrew

danielhep wrote:

I'm looking for a fast lens for my Olympus E-M10 Mk 1, and these Panasonic 20mms look perfect for me.

The 20/1.7 is a great lens, and lots of people are happy with it on the E-M10. However, some people report occasional problems with banding and with purple fringes with that body.

Regards,

Alan

danielhep wrote:

I'm looking for a fast lens for my Olympus E-M10 Mk 1, and these Panasonic 20mms look perfect for me.

I don't have a big budget, hence the lens options. I'm looking around at used lenses, and it looks like the mark 2 is about $50-$100 more than its predecessor. What advantages does it have, if any? Should I spend the extra cash? Also, these lenses will work fine on my Olympus camera, right?

Thanks.

Daniel , I have both lenses the mk1 came with my GF1 and the mk2 with my GX7 { fortunately there isn’t a mk3 or I would probably have bought it with my GX8   }. The optical quality of both lenses is excellent and all but identical. Sadly for those not happy with the AF speed { I am not one of them} there was no improvement in this area. The mk2 has a bit better build quality though not by any great margin. Unfortunately there are a couple of known issues on several Olympus bodies which do not present on Panasonic cameras . I believe the difference is due to Olympus adding the corrected filtration to their lenses whilst Panasonic does so on their sensors.

Though the 20mm is my favourite mFT lens { small, light and capable of great results} for use on an Olympus camera I would suggest an Olympus lens.

Ulfric M Douglas wrote:

Blimey! I just read the rest of the thread

and it seems to be all about Don Parrot's outlandish denigration of the colours and rendering of the 20mm.

Strange stuff.

If you really want to upset Don , mention how enjoyable 4k video and photography are

danielhep wrote:

EarthQuake wrote:

danielhep wrote:

I'm looking for a fast lens for my Olympus E-M10 Mk 1, and these Panasonic 20mms look perfect for me.

I don't have a big budget, hence the lens options. I'm looking around at used lenses, and it looks like the mark 2 is about $50-$100 more than its predecessor. What advantages does it have, if any? Should I spend the extra cash? Also, these lenses will work fine on my Olympus camera, right?

Thanks.

No difference between I and II other than cosmetics. This lens is fully compatible with Olympus M43 camera bodies. Get the MK1 if it's cheaper.

Saying that, unless the ~40mm equiv FOV or small size are the main reasons you're looking at this lens, I would go with one of the 25mm lenses instead, because the 20/1.7 hunts quite a bit when focusing in low light on Olympus bodies, and causes banding on bodies with the 16MP sony sensor, which is most of of the current gen olys.

Okay, but then I'm looking at $300-$350, at which point I may as well go for the Olympus 17mm 1.8.

If you're talking about USD$ - as opposed to the cheaper northern version - that price should get you a used 25mm Pana-Leica F1.4. Aside from it's pesky clicking noise as the diaphragm adjusts itself, it's a wonderful lens.

jim stirling wrote:

Ulfric M Douglas wrote:

Blimey! I just read the rest of the thread

and it seems to be all about Don Parrot's outlandish denigration of the colours and rendering of the 20mm.

Strange stuff.

If you really want to upset Don , mention how enjoyable 4k video and photography are

But he has a GH 4 ???

jim stirling wrote:

Ulfric M Douglas wrote:

Blimey! I just read the rest of the thread

and it seems to be all about Don Parrot's outlandish denigration of the colours and rendering of the 20mm.

Strange stuff.

If you really want to upset Don , mention how enjoyable 4k video and photography are

Just breathing would get the same result.

I am really enjoying my 20mm f/1.7 Mk.I with my E-M10 - the field of view is good for me.   One thing to remember is that this is a small light lens that lets you carry it everywhere and shoot from the hip.  I was walking to the theater this w/e when I fired off this shot so have had to quickly straighten it and crop it a bit... Not particularly slow to focus though and no banding that affects the photo.   I have 14mm,25mm and 45mm primes as well but use the 20mm alot.. Recommended..

jim stirling wrote:

Ulfric M Douglas wrote:

Blimey! I just read the rest of the thread

and it seems to be all about Don Parrot's outlandish denigration of the colours and rendering of the 20mm.

Strange stuff.

If you really want to upset Don , mention how enjoyable 4k video and photography are

You hit the bull's eye, Jim.

Ger Horgan wrote:

jim stirling wrote:

Ulfric M Douglas wrote:

Blimey! I just read the rest of the thread

and it seems to be all about Don Parrot's outlandish denigration of the colours and rendering of the 20mm.

Strange stuff.

If you really want to upset Don , mention how enjoyable 4k video and photography are

But he has a GH 4 ???

Yup. But we are going to go our separate ways, in the coming days. Got to save money fir the 300 4.0