Wich camera is best for macro mpe 65 between rebel t1i and rebel t3

Hi

i will have buy a mpe 65 and I have little money to spend on a camera.

The 2 cheapest seems to be rebel t1i and rebet t3.

Keeping in mind that i ll do macro with small insects,

wich is the best to buy and WHY?

tx

here is some comparaison inspiration but i dont know what the term means and what is best for macro with mpe65 : http://versus.com/en/canon-eos-rebel-t3-vs-canon-t1i

dpreviewlover wrote:

Hi

i will have buy a mpe 65 and I have little money to spend on a camera.

The 2 cheapest seems to be rebel t1i and rebet t3.

Keeping in mind that i ll do macro with small insects,

wich is the best to buy and WHY?

tx

here is some comparaison inspiration but i dont know what the term means and what is best for macro with mpe65 : http://versus.com/en/canon-eos-rebel-t3-vs-canon-t1i

My advice would be to get yourself into a T2i at the very minimum.  Very close in cost to those you list (esp used).  Much better features, much better sensor.

R2

R2D2 wrote:

My advice would be to get yourself into a T2i at the very minimum. Very close in cost to those you list (esp used). Much better features, much better sensor.

I'd go one step further and say T3i or later, for the articulated monitor and wireless flash mastering, both of which can be very useful for creative macro.

Another thing to think about... if you're using the viewfinder (rather than Live View) to focus a with a lens like the MP-E 65, you want the biggest and brightest one you can get. That's 5D and 6D territory, but for something lower cost a used 50D, 60D, 70D, or 7D is worth considering. Try to compare a few different bodies and see if it's worth going for one of those.

dpreviewlover wrote:

i will have buy a mpe 65 and I have little money to spend on a camera.

The 2 cheapest seems to be rebel t1i and rebet t3.

Keeping in mind that i ll do macro with small insects,

wich is the best to buy and WHY?

here is some comparaison inspiration but i dont know what the term means and what is best for macro with mpe65 : http://versus.com/en/canon-eos-rebel-t3-vs-canon-t1i

Stepping back from your question a bit, you're looking for the cheapest camera, you don't know what "the terms" mean about camera specifications or what might make a good macro camera, you haven't mentioned other associated gear like flashes or tripods, and you want to shoot small insects with a hard-core specialist ultra-macro lens... are you sure you know what you're getting into, and how hard it is to do that kind of thing? I just wonder if you might be better off starting with something easier and working your way up to the MP-E...?

lynnG wrote:

My experience is that all DSLRs are not easy but some mirrorless with adapter is better. I used to use Sony NEX 7 with Metabones adapter. The tilt screen and enlarged image in viewfinder and LED make manual focus more accurate. I now just bought an EOS M3 with tilt viewfinder. This is even better. I also recommend to have a look at Panasonic GX7 or GX8 with Metabones adapter. This can further enhance the effective focal length. To make you and insects further away so that they won't be disturbed too much.

Not a bad suggestion there. All depends on what and how the OP wants to shoot.

I actually just moved to the Canon G3X as my go-to macro rig this summer. Much more compact and lighter than the DSLRs (and their associated lenses) that I have been using for years. Still a very capable setup. IQ is excellent at low ISOs. To get into the macro range I mount the Raynox DCR-150 close up lens to it, and use the built-in (diffused) flash.

For the OP, here is a full size image taken with the above setup (at full zoom). RAW image converted in DPP, zero sharpening or noise reduction applied yet...

Click on "original size." One can see the obvious potential.

And if you want to get even closer, you can use the more powerful Raynox DCR-250 instead.

Other samples in my galleries (various cameras, bodies, lenses)...

http://www.pbase.com/jekyll_and_hyde

R2

lynnG wrote:

My experience is that all DSLRs are not easy but some mirrorless with adapter is better. I used to use Sony NEX 7 with Metabones adapter. The tilt screen and enlarged image in viewfinder and LED make manual focus more accurate. I now just bought an EOS M3 with tilt viewfinder. This is even better. I also recommend to have a look at Panasonic GX7 or GX8 with Metabones adapter. This can further enhance the effective focal length. To make you and insects further away so that they won't be disturbed too much.

Not a bad suggestion there. All depends on what and how the OP wants to shoot.

I actually just moved to the Canon G3X as my go-to macro rig this summer. Much more compact and lighter than the DSLRs (and their associated lenses) that I have been using for years. Still a very capable setup. IQ is excellent at low ISOs. To get into the macro range I mount the Raynox DCR-150 close up lens to it, and use the built-in (diffused) flash.

For the OP, here is a full size image taken with the above setup (at full zoom). RAW image converted in DPP, zero sharpening or noise reduction applied yet...

Click on "original size." One can see the obvious potential.

And if you want to get even closer, you can use the more powerful Raynox DCR-250 instead.

Other samples in my galleries (various cameras, bodies, lenses)...

http://www.pbase.com/jekyll_and_hyde

R2

I'm find R2D2's forum responses very unspiring and helpful. There's always something for everyone. Great work. Awesome.
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I agree with the good advice from R2, especially concerning the mismatch when pairing an entry level body with the specialist (and difficult to master) MP-E 65.

Left out of the OP's question was any mention of lighting and whether a tripod would be employed. At minimum, a speedlite with snoot and diffuser should be included to make the most of this lens.

There are plenty of forums out there dedicated to macro, some research should come before buying the MP-E 65, and preferably quite a bit of time spent with a 1:1 macro that still allows infinity focus.

scottcraig wrote:

I'm find R2D2's forum responses very unspiring and helpful. There's always something for everyone. Great work. Awesome.

Hey thanks scottcraig.  Isn't it such a fun pastime to share?!

R2

R2D2 wrote:

scottcraig wrote:

I'm find R2D2's forum responses very unspiring and helpful. There's always something for everyone. Great work. Awesome.

Hey thanks scottcraig. Isn't it such a fun pastime to share?!

R2

Oh it most certainly is.