EM 10 ii, cracking camera

Olymore wrote:

I'll give it six months and you'll be raving about another new m43 camera and listing all the things you don't like about this one.

This has been the pattern of the last few years....

I did explain! guess I have finally got to it now, GX8, even though it has 4k video is not wowing me unlike the EM10 ii.

At least you're helping m43 sales though which is a good thing

Of course, no perfect camera, EM10 ii is as close to the EM5/GX7 mix I want/need.

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Impulses wrote:

Excuse my scepticism Sam but you've been here before with the Panny GH? and E-M5 mk2 cameras.

Maybe this time you'll have found your 'significant other' and will remain faithful but maybe you're just not ready for a long term (photographic) relationship

Screen type preference aside, I can't see what would impress him on the E-M10 II compared to the E-M5 II... I guess there's touchpad AF too, and a cheaper grip. The E-M5 II grip is kinda ridiculous...

What impresses me c/w the EM5 ii (and GX8) are things like

Raw files, seem overall less noisy and more detailed by default in LR with a great flat/colour accurate adobe profile. The EM5 ii never seems right and the GX8 is also unpredictable

EVF, better colour accuracy, low light contrast, lag, sharpnes than either GX8 and or EM5 ii

Size, I find the EM-5 ii ( and the GX8 ) too large in all honesty c/w original EM-5

Ergonomics, much prefer the EM10 ii, at first I thought it too small but I really like it now. The little grip options are neat too without adding bulk weight.

Flash, built-in option.

Video, not mushy like the EM5 ii and strobey/stuttery like the GX8  with the 12-23/14-140 (EM-1/5 ii had this problem too to a lesser extent)

C-AF, maybe the EM5 ii can do the same, I didn't really try but I have found the EM10 ii C-AF up there with the DFD of the GX8, problem is the GX8 stops at 30 frames raw and you wait ages to go again. No such problem with the EM-10 ii, its C-AF feels top notch for various fast(ish) moving objects. Maybe the BIF will be a problem, will try soon.

Overall, apart from the weather sealing, which might be a big deal for others, I think the EM10 ii is a really great MILC option, can't currently think of anything better for size and capability.

Dxo agree!

http://www.dxomark.com/Reviews/Olympus-OM-D-E-M10-II-sensor-review-Solid-performer

An informative, unbiased write up, great job. Seeing as though you have your foot in both camps, to me your opinon holds more water.

I have the MK I and find it to be one of the best camera I've used to date. It's not always the specs that makes a camera what it is.

Advent1sam wrote:

Impulses wrote:

Excuse my scepticism Sam but you've been here before with the Panny GH? and E-M5 mk2 cameras.

Maybe this time you'll have found your 'significant other' and will remain faithful but maybe you're just not ready for a long term (photographic) relationship

Screen type preference aside, I can't see what would impress him on the E-M10 II compared to the E-M5 II... I guess there's touchpad AF too, and a cheaper grip. The E-M5 II grip is kinda ridiculous...

What impresses me c/w the EM5 ii (and GX8) are things like

Raw files, seem overall less noisy and more detailed by default in LR with a great flat/colour accurate adobe profile. The EM5 ii never seems right and the GX8 is also unpredictable

EVF, better colour accuracy, low light contrast, lag, sharpnes than either GX8 and or EM5 ii

Size, I find the EM-5 ii ( and the GX8 ) too large in all honesty c/w original EM-5

What? The EM5II is almost exactly the same size as the EM5. If the EM5II is too big, so is the EM5. A bit heavier? Yes. Bigger? No. If anything, the EM5II is very slightly smaller than the EM5, I have both of them here, the EM5II is about 3mm wider, but it's shorter and slightly shallower.

http://camerasize.com/compact/#289,594,ha,f

Ergonomics, much prefer the EM10 ii, at first I thought it too small but I really like it now. The little grip options are neat too without adding bulk weight.

Flash, built-in option.

Video, not mushy like the EM5 ii and strobey/stuttery like the GX8 with the 12-23/14-140 (EM-1/5 ii had this problem too to a lesser extent)

C-AF, maybe the EM5 ii can do the same, I didn't really try but I have found the EM10 ii C-AF up there with the DFD of the GX8, problem is the GX8 stops at 30 frames raw and you wait ages to go again. No such problem with the EM-10 ii, its C-AF feels top notch for various fast(ish) moving objects. Maybe the BIF will be a problem, will try soon.

Overall, apart from the weather sealing, which might be a big deal for others, I think the EM10 ii is a really great MILC option, can't currently think of anything better for size and capability.

Impulses wrote:

Dxo agree!

http://www.dxomark.com/Reviews/Olympus-OM-D-E-M10-II-sensor-review-Solid-performer

With what?

Solid permore, cracking camera!

" If we compare the E-M10 II with the mid-range E-M5 II and the flagship E-M1, the three show practically identical performance, suggesting they share a similar or related sensor. "

Indeed they do, which is nice, yes?

Impulses wrote:

Impulses wrote:

Dxo agree!

http://www.dxomark.com/Reviews/Olympus-OM-D-E-M10-II-sensor-review-Solid-performer

With what?

Solid permore, cracking camera!

" If we compare the E-M10 II with the mid-range E-M5 II and the flagship E-M1, the three show practically identical performance, suggesting they share a similar or related sensor. "

Indeed they do, which is nice, yes?

Sure, but it doesn't jive with your claims of magically better images or video.

Impulse, I intend to do a GX8 c/w em10 ii, 1080p at some stage. As far as I can tell the 1080p is similar, the files are better on the 10 ii due to the all intra and higher 50p but rate at 1080p, the 4k is better of course on the GX8 but then there is the issue of stutter and editing. Delivery at 1080 is good and even looks great on 4k unless you have your nose up against it.

I'm just happy to read his camera doesn't have a crack in it!

One feature the EM10-II lacks is the remote control option - can't be controlled remotely from your computer, which the EM5-II and EM1 support, right?  The Olympus software doesn't list the EM10-II as being compatible.

Hey guys,

I am currently looking to purchase the E-M10 MK 2 with triple lens kit which includes the lovely 45mm f/1.8 for $1,200 Australian. However, I have come across a used E-M5 in mint condition which includes the panny 20mm f/1.7, the Oly 12-50mm F3.5-6.3 weather sealed lens, spare batteries and an extra charger for $650 Australian.

I am a novice and have been teaching myself a lot about photography over the last few months in anticipation of purchasing a more complex system. I want to use the camera for my travels and am a fan of the outdoors. I will be learning how to use both cameras from scratch and have never owned a sophisticated system.

Any recommendations would be most welcome.

welshminer wrote:

Hey guys,

I am currently looking to purchase the E-M10 MK 2 with triple lens kit which includes the lovely 45mm f/1.8 for $1,200 Australian. However, I have come across a used E-M5 in mint condition which includes the panny 20mm f/1.7, the Oly 12-50mm F3.5-6.3 weather sealed lens, spare batteries and an extra charger for $650 Australian.

I am a novice and have been teaching myself a lot about photography over the last few months in anticipation of purchasing a more complex system. I want to use the camera for my travels and am a fan of the outdoors. I will be learning how to use both cameras from scratch and have never owned a sophisticated system.

Any recommendations would be most welcome.

All I can tell you is the em10 ii is a fabulous upgrade to the em-5, it has everything you need for so many different shooting situations and the af has been improved along with the evf and lcd. Honestly, I would spend the money on the em10 ii, its outstanding.