Panny 100-400mm news - From the horses mouth

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Nuts About Photography Regular Member • Posts: 271
Panny 100-400mm news - From the horses mouth
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I was at a trade show yesterday and met with the national reps for Panasonic.

They confirmed the 100-400 would be shipping to the reps in December so they can show them to dealers, etc. Then the actual product would ship for retail sales in January.

Cost would be in the $2K area, Canadian, so maybe near $1500US$.

So, time to put this on your list for Santa!

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Bialykot Junior Member • Posts: 27
Re: Panny 100-400mm news - From the horses mouth

Nuts About Photography wrote:

So, time to put this on your list for Santa!

The Santa in my part of the world (Scotland) is a bit stingy.  No way I'll get that!  

SHood Veteran Member • Posts: 5,076
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Nuts About Photography wrote:

I was at a trade show yesterday and met with the national reps for Panasonic.

They confirmed the 100-400 would be shipping to the reps in December so they can show them to dealers, etc. Then the actual product would ship for retail sales in January.

Cost would be in the $2K area, Canadian, so maybe near $1500US$.

So, time to put this on your list for Santa!

I think we spoke to the same Panasonic rep at FusionPro Expo (Vistek).  I received the same information on Wednesday.

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Re: Panny 100-400mm news - From the horses mouth

SHood wrote:

Nuts About Photography wrote:

I was at a trade show yesterday and met with the national reps for Panasonic.

They confirmed the 100-400 would be shipping to the reps in December so they can show them to dealers, etc. Then the actual product would ship for retail sales in January.

Cost would be in the $2K area, Canadian, so maybe near $1500US$.

So, time to put this on your list for Santa!

I think we spoke to the same Panasonic rep at FusionPro Expo (Vistek). I received the same information on Wednesday.

If its around £1-1.25k GBP could be realistic option for sure.

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Re: Panny 100-400mm news - From the horses mouth

SHood wrote:

Nuts About Photography wrote:

I was at a trade show yesterday and met with the national reps for Panasonic.

They confirmed the 100-400 would be shipping to the reps in December so they can show them to dealers, etc. Then the actual product would ship for retail sales in January.

Cost would be in the $2K area, Canadian, so maybe near $1500US$.

So, time to put this on your list for Santa!

I think we spoke to the same Panasonic rep at FusionPro Expo (Vistek). I received the same information on Wednesday.

I would guess that.

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Re: Panny 100-400mm news - From the horses mouth

Way too expensive compared to the 70-300 and 100-300.

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Skeeterbytes Forum Pro • Posts: 14,125
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If true their product development cycle is a whole lot faster than Oly's.

Bring it on.

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Re: Panny 100-400mm news - From the horses mouth

Nuts About Photography wrote:

I was at a trade show yesterday and met with the national reps for Panasonic.

They confirmed the 100-400 would be shipping to the reps in December so they can show them to dealers, etc. Then the actual product would ship for retail sales in January.

Cost would be in the $2K area, Canadian, so maybe near $1500US$.

So, time to put this on your list for Santa!

I wonder who in these forums and out there really need such a lens . Hard to imagine that this could be useful for more than a very few photographers ( professional birders I guess )

in the meanwhile there is still no affordable , reasonably light 300mm equivalent , arguably the single most significant gap in the m4/3 lens line up among commonly used focal lengths

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Jorginho Forum Pro • Posts: 14,266
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Michael M Fliegel wrote:

Way too expensive compared to the 70-300 and 100-300.

Just apples and oranges. Apart from that: 100-400 is completely unknown IQ wise. If it is very good, than woith weathersealing. fast focussing etc. it is simply worth 1500-2000 euro or more (depending on its excellence).

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Narcosynthesis Senior Member • Posts: 1,832
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Michael M Fliegel wrote:

Way too expensive compared to the 70-300 and 100-300.

To be honest, I would expect/hope it would be - the 75-300 and 100-300mm are great lenses, but distinctly mid range in quality and build. Releasing a 100-400mm lens only really makes sense f it is either a direct replacement for the 100-300mm, or if it is a notable upgrade.

Given the comments I would expect a lens on the vein of the Leica/Olympus pro lenses, which will not be cheap for such a specialized lens, and is one of the lenses you see people constantly asking for here (a high quality telephoto option).

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Harold66 wrote:

Nuts About Photography wrote:

I was at a trade show yesterday and met with the national reps for Panasonic.

They confirmed the 100-400 would be shipping to the reps in December so they can show them to dealers, etc. Then the actual product would ship for retail sales in January.

Cost would be in the $2K area, Canadian, so maybe near $1500US$.

So, time to put this on your list for Santa!

I wonder who in these forums and out there really need such a lens . Hard to imagine that this could be useful for more than a very few photographers ( professional birders I guess )

1) any form of wildlife including BIF
2) Sports and other forms of action
3) for me: weather like tornadoes at a distance. The 100-300 was nice but its IQ failed me at the long end and tornadoes are not always in reach.
Now 1 + 2 addresses quite a few people really. 3 is mostly me and some other idiots.

in the meanwhile there is still no affordable , reasonably light 300mm equivalent , arguably the single most significant gap in the m4/3 lens line up among commonly used focal lengths

I agree when we compare to DSLRs mostly. Some things I can come up with:

- 100-300 MkII. WS, better IQ, 100% DFD capable.....800 euro.

Or.
- 100-250 mm f3.5 to f4.5. WS, IQ like Oly 50-200 mm 4/3 DFD etc....950 euro PLUS
- 1,5 TC (300 euro) to get us f4,8 to f6,3 150-375 mm lens.
Or split it over two lenses:
- 50-200 mm f3,5 to f5,6, otherwise like 50-200 Oly4/3 and good DFD focussing. (600 euro)
- 200-450 mm f4,8 to f6,7 with otherwise the same specs (1000 euro)

Later add on:
12,5 to 50 mm f2.8 to F3.5 (otherwise like Oly 12-60 f2.8 F4). DFD capable. (550 euro)

Something like these would indeed get a lineup of very decent lenses with no stellar prices.
Everytime such a question comes up I have the same response, I know. It is not for me personally but I SOOO agree it would set the m4/3 even more apart. Lenses make or break a system in a significant way. No other brand has such a line up (mirrorless), but Fuji has some lenses that are close to this.

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SHood Veteran Member • Posts: 5,076
Re: Panny 100-400mm news - From the horses mouth

Skeeterbytes wrote:

If true their product development cycle is a whole lot faster than Oly's.

Bring it on.

Rick

I spoke to the Oly rep at the same show but they were not as forthcoming with information.  They just smiled and said it would be coming VERY soon.  The rep did mention they already had literature on the lens so that would suggest it would be announced within the next few weeks, around the same time as the Panasonic lens.

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SHood Veteran Member • Posts: 5,076
Re: Panny 100-400mm news - From the horses mouth

Jorginho wrote:

Harold66 wrote:

Nuts About Photography wrote:

I was at a trade show yesterday and met with the national reps for Panasonic.

They confirmed the 100-400 would be shipping to the reps in December so they can show them to dealers, etc. Then the actual product would ship for retail sales in January.

Cost would be in the $2K area, Canadian, so maybe near $1500US$.

So, time to put this on your list for Santa!

I wonder who in these forums and out there really need such a lens . Hard to imagine that this could be useful for more than a very few photographers ( professional birders I guess )

1) any form of wildlife including BIF
2) Sports and other forms of action
3) for me: weather like tornadoes at a distance. The 100-300 was nice but its IQ failed me at the long end and tornadoes are not always in reach.
Now 1 + 2 addresses quite a few people really. 3 is mostly me and some other idiots.

in the meanwhile there is still no affordable , reasonably light 300mm equivalent , arguably the single most significant gap in the m4/3 lens line up among commonly used focal lengths

I agree when we compare to DSLRs mostly. Some things I can come up with:

- 100-300 MkII. WS, better IQ, 100% DFD capable.....800 euro.

Or.
- 100-250 mm f3.5 to f4.5. WS, IQ like Oly 50-200 mm 4/3 DFD etc....950 euro PLUS
- 1,5 TC (300 euro) to get us f4,8 to f6,3 150-375 mm lens.
Or split it over two lenses:
- 50-200 mm f3,5 to f5,6, otherwise like 50-200 Oly4/3 and good DFD focussing. (600 euro)
- 200-450 mm f4,8 to f6,7 with otherwise the same specs (1000 euro)

Later add on:
12,5 to 50 mm f2.8 to F3.5 (otherwise like Oly 12-60 f2.8 F4). DFD capable. (550 euro)

Something like these would indeed get a lineup of very decent lenses with no stellar prices.
Everytime such a question comes up I have the same response, I know. It is not for me personally but I SOOO agree it would set the m4/3 even more apart. Lenses make or break a system in a significant way. No other brand has such a line up (mirrorless), but Fuji has some lenses that are close to this.

Harold

Yup, m43 will be the only mirrorless mount with 2 high quality long telephoto lens options that don't directly overlap.

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It's not hard to conclude there's a good deal of pent-up demand based on the frantic/enthusiastic response to every rumor and announcement about the two coming lenses. I wouldn't have been a potential customer five years ago, but the cameras have come so far in the meantime the lenses make sense today, because the better cameras have me doing new things with them.

Looking forward to tallying the "I thought this was micro four-thirds" posts once they're out.

Cheers,

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Harold66 wrote:

I wonder who in these forums and out there really need such a lens . Hard to imagine that this could be useful for more than a very few photographers ( professional birders I guess )

A very naïve statement.   There are thousands of us who want this kind of tool in the toolbox.  Go to any outdoor event with a bit of action thrown in and you will see Canikons in huge numbers with a vast array of long zooms and primes.  The same events tend to have good numbers of superzooms as well because of the attractiveness of light weight and long length.  m4/3s is crying out for this type of lens.

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Re: Panny 100-400mm news - From the horses mouth

Nuts About Photography wrote:

I was at a trade show yesterday and met with the national reps for Panasonic.

They confirmed the 100-400 would be shipping to the reps in December so they can show them to dealers, etc. Then the actual product would ship for retail sales in January.

Cost would be in the $2K area, Canadian, so maybe near $1500US$.

So, time to put this on your list for Santa!

Haven't been following this...what's the aperture range?

Astrotripper Veteran Member • Posts: 6,085
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Michael M Fliegel wrote:

Way too expensive compared to the 70-300 and 100-300.

Why? It will wipe the floor with both of those. At least it better be, otherwise it's pointless.

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The price is much better than reported before ($2500) NT

No text.

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doccy Regular Member • Posts: 351
Re: The price is much better than reported before ($2500) NT

yes - at that price i could possibly be persuaded.

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Skeeterbytes wrote:

It's not hard to conclude there's a good deal of pent-up demand based on the frantic/enthusiastic response to every rumor and announcement about the two coming lenses. I wouldn't have been a potential customer five years ago, but the cameras have come so far in the meantime the lenses make sense today, because the better cameras have me doing new things with them.

Looking forward to tallying the "I thought this was micro four-thirds" posts once they're out.

Cheers,

Rick

It really isn't THAT big, when look at it in below video :

https://youtu.be/tynV1AGcmMo?t=9m56s

Even really small compared to a canon or nikon 500 or 600 ...

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