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Which Micro 4/3 lens should i buy ?

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hishameid New Member • Posts: 14
Which Micro 4/3 lens should i buy ?

Hello,

I have been using MFT for a couple of years now, and I am getting the lens fever symptoms and looking for a cure.

I recently sold my OMD EM-5 with the kit lens 14-42mm f/3.5-5.6 II R , I also own the 45mm f1.8 and the 25mm f1.8 and a 40-150mm f/4.0-5.6 R Lens.

I purchased the OMD EM-1 and I am looking to add a lens to my collection.

I am in between 2 lenses, the 12-40mm f2.8 pro or the 40-150mm f2.8 pro.

I am aware of the difference in price but i don't think it will play a big role in my decision (very high fever).

I took my best shots with the 40 to 150mm i already own, but imho it was for the lack of a better alternative.

The question is, should i fill the gap that i have in my kit or should i upgrade a lens with the focal length that i am already familiar with.

I do some street photography but lately I am getting interested with more group photoshoots and portraits, with nature and architecture shots.

Its my 1st time writing in any forum, so please do not hesitate to correct me if i am doing something wrong. It was my only resort since i am surrounded by more posers than trigger happy souls.

Thank you

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Spectre38
Spectre38 Regular Member • Posts: 466
Re: Which Micro 4/3 lens should i buy ?
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Decisions should always start with, whats holding me back, or what problem am i trying to solve.

My advice is always go though your photos an count the number of photos for a particular focal lengths youve shot.

In your case the number for the short zoom vs the number for your long zoom.

How often do you heavily crop?

How often do you have to push up the exposure?

How many photos are blurry.?

Do you need to step back a lot to squeeze more into the photo?

Once you can answer those, you will figure out which is best for you. Either youre fine with what you have, a particular choice will jump out, or you will see another gap that fits neither.

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Guy Parsons
Guy Parsons Forum Pro • Posts: 40,000
First see what you use already.
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My initial answer is to get the 12-40mm lens, it is just so darn good.

But the sensible answer (not often seen here) is to first analyse what you already do and see where most of your lens use happens.

In my case I use (Windows) Exposureplot from http://www.vandel.nl/exposureplot.html to analyse say a month or a year of images to see what I'm doing.

Here's what 6 weeks of holiday in Ireland and UK did to me.....

Heavily used 12-40mm, hence the bumps at the ends of its zoom.

The 0 mm bump is the Samyang 7.5mm fisheye, used more than I thought I would, a great fun lens and highly recommended.

The 9mm bump is the 9-18mm lens at work, I didn't really need to carry that for the little use it got.

Then the tiny usage above 40mm up to 150mm is the Panasonic 45-150mm, small and light to carry so it is always in the bag for those relatively rare times that I use it.

If I were to be tempted to buy a prime lens (the 12-40mm has killed that lust) then my natural would be the 17mm as revealed by the hump in that vicinity.

Regards..... Guy

Skeeterbytes Forum Pro • Posts: 23,182
Re: Which Micro 4/3 lens should i buy ?

hishameid wrote:

Hello,

I have been using MFT for a couple of years now, and I am getting the lens fever symptoms and looking for a cure.

I recently sold my OMD EM-5 with the kit lens 14-42mm f/3.5-5.6 II R , I also own the 45mm f1.8 and the 25mm f1.8 and a 40-150mm f/4.0-5.6 R Lens.

I purchased the OMD EM-1 and I am looking to add a lens to my collection.

I am in between 2 lenses, the 12-40mm f2.8 pro or the 40-150mm f2.8 pro.

I am aware of the difference in price but i don't think it will play a big role in my decision (very high fever).

I took my best shots with the 40 to 150mm i already own, but imho it was for the lack of a better alternative.

The question is, should i fill the gap that i have in my kit or should i upgrade a lens with the focal length that i am already familiar with.

I do some street photography but lately I am getting interested with more group photoshoots and portraits, with nature and architecture shots.

Its my 1st time writing in any forum, so please do not hesitate to correct me if i am doing something wrong. It was my only resort since i am surrounded by more posers than trigger happy souls.

Thank you

Your most glaring gap is anything wider than "normal" i.e., the 25/1.8, and I simply couldn't  function without a kit that stopped at 25. On that alone the 12-40 seems the obvious route and that's before considering your stated interests.

The little kit 40-150 is excellent for the price and you can keep using it for the time being. It's true the 40-150 Pro is better in every way and is worth owning, but I wouldn't put that at the top of my needs list before filling the wide gap.

Alternatively, adding a 12 and, say, a 17 would give you a fantastic set of fast primes covering the 12-40's range.

Cheers,

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Chas2 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,714
Re: Which Micro 4/3 lens should i buy ?

hishameid wrote:

Hello,

I have been using MFT for a couple of years now, and I am getting the lens fever symptoms and looking for a cure.

I recently sold my OMD EM-5 with the kit lens 14-42mm f/3.5-5.6 II R , I also own the 45mm f1.8 and the 25mm f1.8 and a 40-150mm f/4.0-5.6 R Lens.

I purchased the OMD EM-1 and I am looking to add a lens to my collection.

I am in between 2 lenses, the 12-40mm f2.8 pro or the 40-150mm f2.8 pro.

I am aware of the difference in price but i don't think it will play a big role in my decision (very high fever).

I took my best shots with the 40 to 150mm i already own, but imho it was for the lack of a better alternative.

The question is, should i fill the gap that i have in my kit or should i upgrade a lens with the focal length that i am already familiar with.

I do some street photography but lately I am getting interested with more group photoshoots and portraits, with nature and architecture shots.

Its my 1st time writing in any forum, so please do not hesitate to correct me if i am doing something wrong. It was my only resort since i am surrounded by more posers than trigger happy souls.

Thank you

I would seriously consider the 12-40 for its versatility.  I think you can get by with the current 40-150.  Comparatively speaking, the 40-150 f2.8 PRO is a monster.  You will love the 12 mm wide, it is much more flexible than the 14.  Good luck

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OP hishameid New Member • Posts: 14
Re: Which Micro 4/3 lens should i buy ?

Skeeterbytes wrote:

Your most glaring gap is anything wider than "normal" i.e., the 25/1.8, and I simply couldn't function without a kit that stopped at 25. On that alone the 12-40 seems the obvious route and that's before considering your stated interests.

The little kit 40-150 is excellent for the price and you can keep using it for the time being. It's true the 40-150 Pro is better in every way and is worth owning, but I wouldn't put that at the top of my needs list before filling the wide gap.

Alternatively, adding a 12 and, say, a 17 would give you a fantastic set of fast primes covering the 12-40's range.

Cheers,

Rick

Thank you Rick, i really appreciate the time you took, I am leaning towards the 12-40mm PRO as of now.

To answer your prime lens statement, i am kind of fed up of changing between primes whenever it is called for. I love prime lenses, but i guess ill get rid of my 25mm 1.8 later on and maybe get the 17mm (for the price) or the 12mm 1.8 for the stunning reviews.

One prime i would definitely keep is the 45mm, as in my short life in photography and humble opinion i think is the best optic (quality/price) out there.

Thanks again

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OP hishameid New Member • Posts: 14
Re: Which Micro 4/3 lens should i buy ?

Thank you for the time you took to answer, i guess after all i read the past couple of days, the 12-40mm is the right way to go.

But i agree the 40-150 mm seems amazing, maybe for a later purchase.

Good Day

Sam

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addlightness Veteran Member • Posts: 3,641
Re: Which Micro 4/3 lens should i buy ?

hishameid wrote:

I recently sold my OMD EM-5 with the kit lens 14-42mm f/3.5-5.6 II R , I also own the 45mm f1.8 and the 25mm f1.8 and a 40-150mm f/4.0-5.6 R Lens.

You still have your 25mm, 45mm and 40-150mm.  Yes?

I purchased the OMD EM-1 and I am looking to add a lens to my collection.

I am in between 2 lenses, the 12-40mm f2.8 pro or the 40-150mm f2.8 pro.

If your new purchase was a E-M5ii or E-M10ii, I'd have suggest wide prime's but with a E-M1, a 12-40mmf2.8 is ergonomically better plus you need that (since you sold your 14-42mm) more than the 40-150mm PRO.

I have an E-M10(and GM1), so the trinity PRO lenses don't talk to me as much as my prime's.

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OP hishameid New Member • Posts: 14
Re: First see what you use already.

Guy Parsons wrote:

My initial answer is to get the 12-40mm lens, it is just so darn good.

But the sensible answer (not often seen here) is to first analyse what you already do and see where most of your lens use happens.

In my case I use (Windows) Exposureplot from http://www.vandel.nl/exposureplot.html to analyse say a month or a year of images to see what I'm doing.

Here's what 6 weeks of holiday in Ireland and UK did to me.....

Heavily used 12-40mm, hence the bumps at the ends of its zoom.

The 0 mm bump is the Samyang 7.5mm fisheye, used more than I thought I would, a great fun lens and highly recommended.

The 9mm bump is the 9-18mm lens at work, I didn't really need to carry that for the little use it got.

Then the tiny usage above 40mm up to 150mm is the Panasonic 45-150mm, small and light to carry so it is always in the bag for those relatively rare times that I use it.

If I were to be tempted to buy a prime lens (the 12-40mm has killed that lust) then my natural would be the 17mm as revealed by the hump in that vicinity.

Regards..... Guy

Thank you Guy for the time you took.

Love the small software (im a numbers guy-Engineering background-its amazing to see the graphs) that alone was as good as buying the lens.

Looking at the my OMD EM-5 pictures my highest range is between 14 mm and 50 mm.

Which already says a lot and makes me wanna get the 12-40 mm.

I have been eyeing the samyang fish eye for a couple of years, but have been so hesitant since i never used a fish eye other than the occasional Gopro scuba videos and snapshots. Which i often find so distorted and end up cropping or fixing the perspective on them.

My question is, is it worth it getting the samyang, or just wait and save and get the 7-14 mm pro lens to complete my kit ?

Have a good day

Sam

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OP hishameid New Member • Posts: 14
Re: Which Micro 4/3 lens should i buy ?

addlightness wrote:

hishameid wrote:

I recently sold my OMD EM-5 with the kit lens 14-42mm f/3.5-5.6 II R , I also own the 45mm f1.8 and the 25mm f1.8 and a 40-150mm f/4.0-5.6 R Lens.

You still have your 25mm, 45mm and 40-150mm. Yes?

I purchased the OMD EM-1 and I am looking to add a lens to my collection.

I am in between 2 lenses, the 12-40mm f2.8 pro or the 40-150mm f2.8 pro.

If your new purchase was a E-M5ii or E-M10ii, I'd have suggest wide prime's but with a E-M1, a 12-40mmf2.8 is ergonomically better plus you need that (since you sold your 14-42mm) more than the 40-150mm PRO.

I have an E-M10(and GM1), so the trinity PRO lenses don't talk to me as much as my prime's.

Thank you for you reply, after reading the replys i came to the conclusion that the 12-40 mm is the right choice to make

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OP hishameid New Member • Posts: 14
Re: Which Micro 4/3 lens should i buy ?

Thank you for your reply.

Will think about it

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Guy Parsons
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Re: First see what you use already.

hishameid wrote:

Thank you Guy for the time you took.

The chart was done just after the holiday and was sitting in my Onedrive for use like that.

Love the small software (im a numbers guy-Engineering background-its amazing to see the graphs) that alone was as good as buying the lens.

Looking at the my OMD EM-5 pictures my highest range is between 14 mm and 50 mm.

Which already says a lot and makes me wanna get the 12-40 mm.

Get it and stop mucking about.

I have been eyeing the samyang fish eye for a couple of years, but have been so hesitant since i never used a fish eye other than the occasional Gopro scuba videos and snapshots. Which i often find so distorted and end up cropping or fixing the perspective on them.

My question is, is it worth it getting the samyang, or just wait and save and get the 7-14 mm pro lens to complete my kit ?

What started me was getting the 9mm body cap fisheye, a huge discount  to get it about half price  made me do it.

Had a lot of fun experimenting with it and so much fun that I immediately bought the 7.5mm Samyang and have used it more than I thought that I would.

It's use of course is to get a view of usually interiors where no other lens can see that wide. Or to look for curved and circular architectural features where the fisheye gets the wide view and everything is curved anyway, so it all looks normal.

Occasionally I use it for wide landscape type shots where the absence of vertical poles, trees etc at the edges leave no clue as to the fact that is it fisheye. The trick is to keep the horizon dead centre so it is straight, then crop top or bottom as required to get rid of the boring bits. Occasionally a de-fish with a tool like AnglerFish is done, but not often.

It is a lens that makes you think more and work a bit to get the result. Not used much but seems more useful than my 9-18mm lens. I could happily travel with 12-40mm for most shots, then get some with 7.5mm fisheye, then some less with 45-150mm, but that's just me, more wide than tele. The 7-14mm just does not enter my thinking.

Prime lust went away when the 12-40mm arrived, and I do shoot at up to 6400 ISO to make up for "lack of aperture". Even the rare 25,600 ISO shot just to capture something impossible.

My mode dial reveals the MySets that I have assigned to it, just mostly auto ISO range shifting.

Regards....... Guy

OP hishameid New Member • Posts: 14
Re: First see what you use already.

Thanks again

Ordering it very soon

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Bhima78 Senior Member • Posts: 2,850
Learn how to analyze the data!

hishameid wrote:

Guy Parsons wrote:

My initial answer is to get the 12-40mm lens, it is just so darn good.

But the sensible answer (not often seen here) is to first analyse what you already do and see where most of your lens use happens.

In my case I use (Windows) Exposureplot from http://www.vandel.nl/exposureplot.html to analyse say a month or a year of images to see what I'm doing.

Here's what 6 weeks of holiday in Ireland and UK did to me.....

Heavily used 12-40mm, hence the bumps at the ends of its zoom.

The 0 mm bump is the Samyang 7.5mm fisheye, used more than I thought I would, a great fun lens and highly recommended.

The 9mm bump is the 9-18mm lens at work, I didn't really need to carry that for the little use it got.

Then the tiny usage above 40mm up to 150mm is the Panasonic 45-150mm, small and light to carry so it is always in the bag for those relatively rare times that I use it.

If I were to be tempted to buy a prime lens (the 12-40mm has killed that lust) then my natural would be the 17mm as revealed by the hump in that vicinity.

Regards..... Guy

Thank you Guy for the time you took.

Love the small software (im a numbers guy-Engineering background-its amazing to see the graphs) that alone was as good as buying the lens.

Looking at the my OMD EM-5 pictures my highest range is between 14 mm and 50 mm.

Which already says a lot and makes me wanna get the 12-40 mm.

I have been eyeing the samyang fish eye for a couple of years, but have been so hesitant since i never used a fish eye other than the occasional Gopro scuba videos and snapshots. Which i often find so distorted and end up cropping or fixing the perspective on them.

My question is, is it worth it getting the samyang, or just wait and save and get the 7-14 mm pro lens to complete my kit ?

Have a good day

Sam

In Guy's case, he clearly shot more photos with the 12-40, but the percentage of his keepers may or may not be in that range. For me, My exposureplot looks somewhat similar to his when I map it over ALL my photos, but if I map exposureplot just over my KEEPER photos, I found that most of my keeper shots were from 40mm+. So although I took more photos in the standard 12-35ish range (and still do), I kept a whole lot less of them than my 40mm+. Because of this knowledge, my next lens will be the Panasonic 35-100mm f2.8.

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Re: Which Micro 4/3 lens should i buy ?

Better shots in terms of composition or IQ? The PRO 40-150 won't help you with composition unless you want to blur the background more. Personally I would take a good look at the Panasonic 12-35 f2.8. I couldn't enjoy photography without a wide angle lens. It's smaller than the Olympus and just as good or so close it's irrelevant. I don't know how it's priced versus the Oly but it's an interesting lens.
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OP hishameid New Member • Posts: 14
Re: Learn how to analyze the data!

Bhima78 wrote:

hishameid wrote:

Guy Parsons wrote:

My initial answer is to get the 12-40mm lens, it is just so darn good.

But the sensible answer (not often seen here) is to first analyse what you already do and see where most of your lens use happens.

In my case I use (Windows) Exposureplot from http://www.vandel.nl/exposureplot.html to analyse say a month or a year of images to see what I'm doing.

Here's what 6 weeks of holiday in Ireland and UK did to me.....

Heavily used 12-40mm, hence the bumps at the ends of its zoom.

The 0 mm bump is the Samyang 7.5mm fisheye, used more than I thought I would, a great fun lens and highly recommended.

The 9mm bump is the 9-18mm lens at work, I didn't really need to carry that for the little use it got.

Then the tiny usage above 40mm up to 150mm is the Panasonic 45-150mm, small and light to carry so it is always in the bag for those relatively rare times that I use it.

If I were to be tempted to buy a prime lens (the 12-40mm has killed that lust) then my natural would be the 17mm as revealed by the hump in that vicinity.

Regards..... Guy

Thank you Guy for the time you took.

Love the small software (im a numbers guy-Engineering background-its amazing to see the graphs) that alone was as good as buying the lens.

Looking at the my OMD EM-5 pictures my highest range is between 14 mm and 50 mm.

Which already says a lot and makes me wanna get the 12-40 mm.

I have been eyeing the samyang fish eye for a couple of years, but have been so hesitant since i never used a fish eye other than the occasional Gopro scuba videos and snapshots. Which i often find so distorted and end up cropping or fixing the perspective on them.

My question is, is it worth it getting the samyang, or just wait and save and get the 7-14 mm pro lens to complete my kit ?

Have a good day

Sam

In Guy's case, he clearly shot more photos with the 12-40, but the percentage of his keepers may or may not be in that range. For me, My exposureplot looks somewhat similar to his when I map it over ALL my photos, but if I map exposureplot just over my KEEPER photos, I found that most of my keeper shots were from 40mm+. So although I took more photos in the standard 12-35ish range (and still do), I kept a whole lot less of them than my 40mm+. Because of this knowledge, my next lens will be the Panasonic 35-100mm f2.8.

Really interesting, didn't think about that. Will give it a shot and keep you posted

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Drofnad Regular Member • Posts: 454
Re: First see what you use already.

Guy Parsons wrote:

My initial answer is to get the 12-40mm lens, it is just so darn good.

...

Heavily used 12-40mm, hence the bumps at the ends of its zoom.

The 0 mm bump is the Samyang 7.5mm fisheye, used more than I thought I would, a great fun lens and highly recommended.

The 9mm bump is the 9-18mm lens at work, I didn't really need to carry that for the little use it got.

Then the tiny usage above 40mm up to 150mm is the Panasonic 45-150mm, small and light to carry so it is always in the bag for those relatively rare times that I use it.

If I were to be tempted to buy a prime lens (the 12-40mm has killed that lust) then my natural would be the 17mm as revealed by the hump in that vicinity.

Regards..... Guy

I'd say that the "hence the bumps at the ends of its zoom" has elements of non-sequitur to it, in that one might think you got as far towards what was wanted as one could, and in both directions one wanted OUT !  Had you the 7-14 & 35-100 say ready to go --and I mean mounted on bodies, not needing a lens swap--, those bumps might cascade into FLs outside of 12-40!?  --a thought.  (Otherwise, yes, such FL frequencies do often reveal what lens, by being at a zoom end.

(In my case, I've just complemented the agreed wonderful 12-40 with Pany's 35-100/2.8 & 7-14/4, which are on used markets for WAY less than the newly issued Oly counterparts, and are much smaller/lighter (despite the telephoto's having OIS !).  And I got a GX7 to have one ready.  I've done some casual swapping between bodies & lenses but can't say for sure if I see much difference, or preference for E-M5 + IBIS w/35-100 or w/o & OIS of lens.  With its long hood reversed, the 35-100 is shorter than the 12-40 + hood normal.)

-d.

ps : I saw that "LX3" in the photo EXIF...  >> 24-60 eq. from a fine little "camera you have with you", now well aged, and still MUCH appreciated !

OP hishameid New Member • Posts: 14
Re: Which Micro 4/3 lens should i buy ?

i actually feel that Oly body with Oly lens is a better all around system, but definitely a wide angle zoom lens

Thank you

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John King
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Re: First see what you use already.

I agree, D.

My walk-around lens has been my FTs 14-54 MkII for the last 6+ years. It still is on my E-M1. There are small humps at each end of its range, but I take around 40-50% of shots at intermediate FLs. What occurs to me is why have a zoom if one doesn't use the zoom to achieve precise framing? I only rarely crop images in PP ...

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Guy Parsons
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Bumps at end of zoom range

Drofnad wrote:

I'd say that the "hence the bumps at the ends of its zoom" has elements of non-sequitur to it, in that one might think you got as far towards what was wanted as one could, and in both directions one wanted OUT !

Usually that can be explained by the fact that I'm on holidays when I'm busiest and have one chance at many shots, so grab and shoot is the way to go, instead of fumble for another lens and - oh bother, the scene has evaporated.

Plus of course shoot now and crop later explains at lot of the 12mm bump.

If I could somehow chart the final cropped version I may use then the chart would be a little different. As for keepers, I keep everything bar the total mistakes, and we find that we very often need to dig back to some seeming uninteresting shot to get details of something or to read a sign that was in the frame, storage is so cheap now that it's no problem to do that and also to have what seems to be about 5 backups sets as well.

Had you the 7-14 & 35-100 say ready to go --and I mean mounted on bodies, not needing a lens swap--, those bumps might cascade into FLs outside of 12-40!? --a thought. (Otherwise, yes, such FL frequencies do often reveal what lens, by being at a zoom end.

Yes, if I set up two bodies, but usually the spare is immediately out of reach either in the car or back at the hotel or whatever. But if packing two bodies it would always be a case of having one with a normal lens and one with a wide lens and suddenly I need a tele lens, so should I carry 3 bodies?

(In my case, I've just complemented the agreed wonderful 12-40 with Pany's 35-100/2.8 & 7-14/4, which are on used markets for WAY less than the newly issued Oly counterparts, and are much smaller/lighter (despite the telephoto's having OIS !). And I got a GX7 to have one ready. I've done some casual swapping between bodies & lenses but can't say for sure if I see much difference, or preference for E-M5 + IBIS w/35-100 or w/o & OIS of lens. With its long hood reversed, the 35-100 is shorter than the 12-40 + hood normal.)

The Pana 35-100/2.8 is slowly getting more of my attention as I see that as an answer to the little use I give tele, but need f/2.8 more than I need f/5.6 of my current tele lens. Maybe the after Christmas discount days may see me spending more of the kid's inheritance. I looked at the Oly 40-150/2.8 and that is just way too stupidly large for the very little use that I'd get out if it. It would end up being a stay-at-home lens - and I have no more room in my dry cabinet for more stay-at-home lenses.

-d.

ps : I saw that "LX3" in the photo EXIF... >> 24-60 eq. from a fine little "camera you have with you", now well aged, and still MUCH appreciated !

Panasonic LX3, the oldie but goodie, nothing comes near to it as far as I'm concerned, as long as you can work at ISO 400 or lower. Same batteries as my old Ricoh R3 and none of that user unfriendly battery chipping nonsense, also a CCD sensor so videos of fast moving things look normal. A keeper for ever.

Regards...... Guy

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