A6000 vs NX500 against the GX7? But I guess I don't really need a new camera...

I really don't need a new camera. I have a GX7. But i'm sort of bored and would think like to trade in the GX7 and change to another camera to play with.

Other than the EVF (I rarely use the one of the GX7), and the fact I don't care much for 4K video (basically never use video) which would you recommend: the A6000 or the NX500?

Or should I just stick with my GX7? How does it compare to either the A6000 or the NX500, is it just as good?

My usage is mainly travel & travel photos, photo walks through the woods, and long exposure night photography. Little to none on portraits, maybe a night with friends at a pool party, but nothing else.

If the GX7 is just as good as either of these two camera, i'll just keep it, but i'm basically looking for a reason to upgrade and just play with a new camera.

From what i've read I like that the Sony's sensor is basically full frame (???) but dislike that there's not touch screen so I feel like changing the focal point would be a pain in the ass.

On the NX500 side, I like their reverse sensor engineering which does really well in low-light? (don't remember exactly what it was but think I read something along those lines)

Thank for any opinions!

TL;DR - Have a GX7, want to play with a new camera. A6000 vs NX500? Or is the GX7 just as good as either of these.

Don't think "cameras", think "lenses".

iknowadrian wrote:

I really don't need a new camera. I have a GX7. But i'm sort of bored and would think like to trade in the GX7 and change to another camera to play with.

Other than the EVF (I rarely use the one of the GX7), and the fact I don't care much for 4K video (basically never use video) which would you recommend: the A6000 or the NX500?

Or should I just stick with my GX7? How does it compare to either the A6000 or the NX500, is it just as good?

My usage is mainly travel & travel photos, photo walks through the woods, and long exposure night photography. Little to none on portraits, maybe a night with friends at a pool party, but nothing else.

If the GX7 is just as good as either of these two camera, i'll just keep it, but i'm basically looking for a reason to upgrade and just play with a new camera.

From what i've read I like that the Sony's sensor is basically full frame (???) but dislike that there's not touch screen so I feel like changing the focal point would be a pain in the ass.

On the NX500 side, I like their reverse sensor engineering which does really well in low-light? (don't remember exactly what it was but think I read something along those lines)

Thank for any opinions!

TL;DR - Have a GX7, want to play with a new camera. A6000 vs NX500? Or is the GX7 just as good as either of these.

Before anything, a vote of other members' opinion could not/and should never represent what you should do. Everyone has their own preference, way of application etc and the money is yours. Like my experience on GM1/5. They are excellent M43 camera, tiny and lightweight fulfilling every original goal of M43, as powerful as most mid-range dslrs, and many members like them a lot. But having all enthusiasm and went into Panny's showroom for a test (looking for a backup), I was terribly disappointed. It is too small that my small hand/fingers didn't know how to control it them like GX7.... Good camera but just not my cup of tea.

Except for a few discourage reading on early models reviews of Samsung, and looking at its derivation to use apps, had no interest on following its development anymore. Can't comment on it. Just know their prices are fallen incredibly fast after launched ...

A6000 is not a bad choice and it is the first NEX member offering fast AFS as M43. And its PDAF on sensor making it be one of the fastest AF tracking (only in good light) when it was launched (now new M43 models, unluckily not GX7, could perform close to it). Except for a better evf (GX7 had sadly selected not the best one), A6000 doesn't offer much than GX7 IMHO.

Finally, do you aware Samsung and A6000 are all APSC and there is only a merely 1/3 stop advantage over M43? For that small benefit you have to carry large APSC lenses and worse still, there are few native NEX lenses. You might need to use huge FF Sony lenses on a not small itself adapter just to make everything larger and heavier! When talking about better IQ lenses, you might also have to use the expansive Zeiss lenses whereas there are a lot of relatively much cheaper native M43 lenses from Oly and Panny/Leica to choose....

BTW, FF mirrorless of Sony is its A7 series (latest A7SII, could AF at low light as -4ev, same as all latest Panny including GX7, A6000 can't so would hunt in low light AF). Not NEX series.

If looking for a real upgrade and video is not your interest, why not GX8/EM1 or G7 or EM5II, EM10II is another option but likely eq to GX7's class. The more complicated learning curve of Oly menu surely would give you a long busy time. And you could keep on using the existing lenses you have....

Beware GAS. Concentrate on improving our shooting technique and discover the interest of photographing, not gear buying....

Master could turn anything into magic, not the best gear. Just my 2 cents.

alcelc wrote:

iknowadrian wrote:

I really don't need a new camera. I have a GX7. But i'm sort of bored and would think like to trade in the GX7 and change to another camera to play with.

Other than the EVF (I rarely use the one of the GX7), and the fact I don't care much for 4K video (basically never use video) which would you recommend: the A6000 or the NX500?

Or should I just stick with my GX7? How does it compare to either the A6000 or the NX500, is it just as good?

My usage is mainly travel & travel photos, photo walks through the woods, and long exposure night photography. Little to none on portraits, maybe a night with friends at a pool party, but nothing else.

If the GX7 is just as good as either of these two camera, i'll just keep it, but i'm basically looking for a reason to upgrade and just play with a new camera.

From what i've read I like that the Sony's sensor is basically full frame (???) but dislike that there's not touch screen so I feel like changing the focal point would be a pain in the ass.

On the NX500 side, I like their reverse sensor engineering which does really well in low-light? (don't remember exactly what it was but think I read something along those lines)

Thank for any opinions!

TL;DR - Have a GX7, want to play with a new camera. A6000 vs NX500? Or is the GX7 just as good as either of these.

Before anything, a vote of other members' opinion could not/and should never represent what you should do. Everyone has their own preference, way of application etc and the money is yours. Like my experience on GM1/5. They are excellent M43 camera, tiny and lightweight fulfilling every original goal of M43, as powerful as most mid-range dslrs, and many members like them a lot. But having all enthusiasm and went into Panny's showroom for a test (looking for a backup), I was terribly disappointed. It is too small that my small hand/fingers didn't know how to control it them like GX7.... Good camera but just not my cup of tea.

Except for a few discourage reading on early models reviews of Samsung, and looking at its derivation to use apps, had no interest on following its development anymore. Can't comment on it. Just know their prices are fallen incredibly fast after launched ...

A6000 is not a bad choice and it is the first NEX member offering fast AFS as M43. And its PDAF on sensor making it be one of the fastest AF tracking (only in good light) when it was launched (now new M43 models, unluckily not GX7, could perform close to it). Except for a better evf (GX7 had sadly selected not the best one), A6000 doesn't offer much than GX7 IMHO.

Finally, do you aware Samsung and A6000 are all APSC and there is only a merely 1/3 stop advantage over M43? For that small benefit you have to carry large APSC lenses and worse still, there are few native NEX lenses. You might need to use huge FF Sony lenses on a not small itself adapter just to make everything larger and heavier! When talking about better IQ lenses, you might also have to use the expansive Zeiss lenses whereas there are a lot of relatively much cheaper native M43 lenses from Oly and Panny/Leica to choose....

BTW, FF mirrorless of Sony is its A7 series (latest A7SII, could AF at low light as -4ev, same as all latest Panny including GX7, A6000 can't so would hunt in low light AF). Not NEX series.

If looking for a real upgrade and video is not your interest, why not GX8/EM1 or G7 or EM5II, EM10II is another option but likely eq to GX7's class. The more complicated learning curve of Oly menu surely would give you a long busy time. And you could keep on using the existing lenses you have....

Beware GAS. Concentrate on improving our shooting technique and discover the interest of photographing, not gear buying....

Master could turn anything into magic, not the best gear. Just my 2 cents.

I own representative cameras from three of these makers; Sony, Olympus & Samsung.

The Samsung is the class act in some ways, inheriting the 28mp BSI sensor from the NX1. But no EVF.

The A6000 cannot compare to the others for features, build and quantity of APS-C sized lenses. But it has the fastest CAF and tracking, and very low cost.

The M43 entries have the fastest SF advantage, especially in low light, and enormous technical advances/features and choice of lenses.

iknowadrian wrote:

From what i've read I like that the Sony's sensor is basically full frame (???) but dislike that there's not touch screen so I feel like changing the focal point would be a pain in the ass.

The a6000 has an APS sensor. Compared to the GX7, high-ISO noise performance is about 1/2 stop better. More fast primes are available for MFT, and these can tilt the high-ISO advantage toward MFT. a6000 pixel count is 50% greater, but you'll need a better lens than the kit zoom to actually benefit from the sensor's higher resolution. And, 50% more pixels translates into prints that are 12% bigger in each dimension - not a big difference, IMHO. a6000 C-AF is better, but GX7 S-AF is faster, especially in low light. a6000 EVF is bigger but lower-rez.

Panny's Touchpad AF is a must-have, in my book.

iknowadrian wrote:

I really don't need a new camera. I have a GX7. But i'm sort of bored and would think like to trade in the GX7 and change to another camera to play with.

Other than the EVF (I rarely use the one of the GX7), and the fact I don't care much for 4K video (basically never use video) which would you recommend: the A6000 or the NX500?

Or should I just stick with my GX7? How does it compare to either the A6000 or the NX500, is it just as good?

My usage is mainly travel & travel photos, photo walks through the woods, and long exposure night photography. Little to none on portraits, maybe a night with friends at a pool party, but nothing else.

If the GX7 is just as good as either of these two camera, i'll just keep it, but i'm basically looking for a reason to upgrade and just play with a new camera.

From what i've read I like that the Sony's sensor is basically full frame (???) but dislike that there's not touch screen so I feel like changing the focal point would be a pain in the ass.

On the NX500 side, I like their reverse sensor engineering which does really well in low-light? (don't remember exactly what it was but think I read something along those lines)

Thank for any opinions!

TL;DR - Have a GX7, want to play with a new camera. A6000 vs NX500? Or is the GX7 just as good as either of these.

I did own the GX7 and still have the A6000. The key features that I like in the A6000 are the far superior tracking AF/frame rate and the sensor gives you slightly better resolution, high ISO and ability to crop. That said I'm a big fan of adapting manual focus lenses from film cameras and I prefer the smaller crop ratio the APS-C sensor gives you. Adapted lenses just felt better in the hand with the A6000 body.

When I sold my GX7 I couldn't quite leave the system for good because I loved my 20mm F1.7 pancake and the 12-32mm pancake zoom - so I got a GF7 instead. It's my pocket kit for when I want to travel light or be especially candid with street photography.

If you're really determined to get an APS-C body then don't dismiss a small DSLR. Using an optical viewfinder is a real pleasure in some respects. I went with Pentax for its large OVF and its good range of old and new Pentax primes. With an M42 adapter or Adaptall 2 I can use Carl Zeiss and Tamron lenses also and have acquired a nice range of lenses that cost very little in comparison to the better m43 or Sony E-mount offerings. Weight and size of the gear is not that much greater than say a GH4 or EM-1 outfit as long as you don't insist on uber fast telephoto zooms. My A6000 hasn't been touched since I bought a Pentax K-3 to be honest.

I really don't need a new camera. I have a GX7. But i'm sort of bored and would think like to trade in the GX7 and change to another camera to play with.

Other than the EVF (I rarely use the one of the GX7), and the fact I don't care much for 4K video (basically never use video) which would you recommend: the A6000 or the NX500?

Or should I just stick with my GX7? How does it compare to either the A6000 or the NX500, is it just as good?

My usage is mainly travel & travel photos, photo walks through the woods, and long exposure night photography. Little to none on portraits, maybe a night with friends at a pool party, but nothing else.

If the GX7 is just as good as either of these two camera, i'll just keep it, but i'm basically looking for a reason to upgrade and just play with a new camera.

From what i've read I like that the Sony's sensor is basically full frame (???) but dislike that there's not touch screen so I feel like changing the focal point would be a pain in the ass.

On the NX500 side, I like their reverse sensor engineering which does really well in low-light? (don't remember exactly what it was but think I read something along those lines)

Thank for any opinions!

TL;DR - Have a GX7, want to play with a new camera. A6000 vs NX500? Or is the GX7 just as good as either of these.

I don't have either of those cameras, and have to ask: do you also plan to replace all your lenses? If I had surplus money, I would get a new lens rather than replacing an entire system.

It has been strongly rumored in the past month that both Sony and Samsung are prepping to get out of the camera market - Sony has even gone so far as to reorganize so that its sensor division is no longer tied to its devices (camera) division.

Panasonic has been actively releasing cameras all year, compared to Sony, whose newest APS body is the two year old A6000.

So instead of spending $700 on an A6000, spend it on a 12-35 f/2.8 or a 35-100 f/2.8 lens, and get much better image quality than you'll get out of the A6000 or NX with their respective kit lenses.

Or you could send me the money or the GX7, I could happily use either one.

yonsito wrote:

Don't think "cameras", think "lenses".

Consider instead getting a lens that has a different focal length than what you've got. You can go on the total cheap by buying a fotodiox adapter and then adapt some cheap legacy glass.

REDMASTA wrote:

A6000 is all plastic and feels very cheap and the 16-50 kit lens is pretty bad. Lens selection for their APS-C line is lacking and completely stagnant as its been a couple years since they released anything new.

If you are going to go Sony just pick up an A7 with the kit lens they are going for good prices. The A7 kit lens and FE lens selection in general is much better. They also seem to be putting their full effort into releasing new lenses and bodies for the full frame line.

You should recommend a better lens if you suggest Sony A7. The A7 kit doesn't really sharpen up at the side when stop down. I have both the A7 and NX500 and did a comparison of the kit at f8. I was surprise the tiny Samsung kit lens can reasonably resolve the 28mm sensor.

I put up some samples.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/80630092@N07/albums/72157658933267806/with/21029608364/

I'm not your therapist, but if I were, I'd ask you to ask yourself this. Is it just a bad case of uncontrollable G.A.S., too much money, boredom with life? Or will camera switching make you a better photographer, or make your photos better? Is it need versus want?

So, why don't you post a few of your photos here, and you might get some good, sensible, and helpful advice wherher new gear or technique is the best road map to photographic nirvana for you.

Take gear or technique recommendations, or comments with skepticism from those who never post their own photos or have none in their DPR Gallery.   Without posted photos, you be the judge whether their recommendations, or comments have any credence.

And, good luck on your photographic journey. I hope you find the help you are reaching out for.

Lena

Jefftan wrote:

Any NX500 owner?

Please share your experience and how it is compared to MFT and Sony APS-C in terms of IQ,AF speed..etc

I am especially interested in AF speed and accuracy in low light. Is it quick in operation?

Thanks. I am very interested in the NX500 and will most likely buy one.

I have NX500, Sony A7 and EPL5. First, I don't think EPL5 can complete with the sensor in NX500.

Although I don't recommend using DXO numbers for purchase, but the NX500 got 87 (class leading sensor according to DXO) and Sony A7 90. For my experience, the IQ is really that close. Plus the NX500 don't have a AA filter.

The NX500 AF speed is fast, and I can track my 8 year old running at full speed or on rollerblade.

Very good user interface, touch focus is great. Very very good LCD screen, best I have used, usable in the bright sun if you cast a shadow over it (similar to Samsung galaxy phone)

Video is very good. I play with 4K frame grab with is done inside the camera.

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3910452

But like any purchase, you should look at the overall system first.

REDMASTA wrote:

A6000 is all plastic and feels very cheap and the 16-50 kit lens is pretty bad. Lens selection for their APS-C line is lacking and completely stagnant as its been a couple years since they released anything new.

If you are going to go Sony just pick up an A7 with the kit lens they are going for good prices. The A7 kit lens and FE lens selection in general is much better. They also seem to be putting their full effort into releasing new lenses and bodies for the full frame line.

The whole thing about the A6000 and it's companion model with a flippie touchscreen, the A5100, is the comparatively low prices. You can pick up the kit l;ens for the A7, the FE 28-70 for a couple of hundred bucks. It's a great lens.

aliasfox wrote:

It has been strongly rumored in the past month that both Sony and Samsung are prepping to get out of the camera market - Sony has even gone so far as to reorganize so that its sensor division is no longer tied to its devices (camera) division.

Panasonic has been actively releasing cameras all year, compared to Sony, whose newest APS body is the two year old A6000.

So instead of spending $700 on an A6000, spend it on a 12-35 f/2.8 or a 35-100 f/2.8 lens, and get much better image quality than you'll get out of the A6000 or NX with their respective kit lenses.

Or you could send me the money or the GX7, I could happily use either one.

Rumors, and especially malicious rumors from doubtful sources, are not worth the proverbial "pinch of salt." However, it is still possible that they may get out of the fixed-lens camera business.

Rumor busted: Samsung is *not* exiting the camera business!

http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2015/09/23/rumor-busted-samsung-is-not-exiting-the-camera-business-at-least-not-the-on

ChuckTa wrote:

Jefftan wrote:

Any NX500 owner?

Please share your experience and how it is compared to MFT and Sony APS-C in terms of IQ,AF speed..etc

I am especially interested in AF speed and accuracy in low light. Is it quick in operation?

Thanks. I am very interested in the NX500 and will most likely buy one.

I have NX500, Sony A7 and EPL5. First, I don't think EPL5 can complete with the sensor in NX500.

Although I don't recommend using DXO numbers for purchase, but the NX500 got 87 (class leading sensor according to DXO) and Sony A7 90. For my experience, the IQ is really that close. Plus the NX500 don't have a AA filter.

And the A6000 got a score of 91.

The NX500 AF speed is fast, and I can track my 8 year old running at full speed or on rollerblade.

Very good user interface, touch focus is great. Very very good LCD screen, best I have used, usable in the bright sun if you cast a shadow over it (similar to Samsung galaxy phone)

Video is very good. I play with 4K frame grab with is done inside the camera.

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3910452

But like any purchase, you should look at the overall system first.

The big problem for some people is the NX500's lack of an EVF.

Greynerd wrote:

There are still a lot of posts from people around the globe saying that supplies of NX are drying up in their locality. Samsung have no lens road maps and are by far the most taciturn of the ILC suppliers. They have gung ho marketing announcements from time to time which promise the earth but it all fizzles out. They also announce lenses and never produce them. There was a 300mm announced a year ago and still no one has a clue when and if it will appear. A 16-80 was actually announced in Feb 2011 and has never been cancelled (apart from a rumour) and rumours of its imminent appearance or one like it do surface from time to time.

The kit and the lenses from Samsung are OK but the OP would have to get used to receiving zero information on any specific future plans. The rumours primarily exist because there is a vacuum of actual information so they are just sucked in. I have tried NX twice but the lack of bodies and the EVF being reserved for premium users in the current models is a big put off (there is the NX30 but it has been left behind now by the NX500 and I am not sure they are still making it). They did have an add on viewfinder but they scrapped it so I suspect we are not going to get accessories unless they are profitable in their own right.

captura wrote:

aliasfox wrote:

It has been strongly rumored in the past month that both Sony and Samsung are prepping to get out of the camera market - Sony has even gone so far as to reorganize so that its sensor division is no longer tied to its devices (camera) division.

Panasonic has been actively releasing cameras all year, compared to Sony, whose newest APS body is the two year old A6000.

So instead of spending $700 on an A6000, spend it on a 12-35 f/2.8 or a 35-100 f/2.8 lens, and get much better image quality than you'll get out of the A6000 or NX with their respective kit lenses.

Or you could send me the money or the GX7, I could happily use either one.

Rumors, and especially malicious rumors from doubtful sources, are not worth the proverbial "pinch of salt." However, it is still possible that they may get out of the fixed-lens camera business.

Rumor busted: Samsung is *not* exiting the camera business!

http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2015/09/23/rumor-busted-samsung-is-not-exiting-the-camera-business-at-least-not-the-on

Then it's a similar situation to Sony's APS-C products. No new lens or body announcements in nearly 2 years.

Greynerd wrote:

Not really as Samsung are making announcements and bringing out new stuff. It is just they do not give away anything on future plans and seem rather casual about announcing stuff that they may not actually produce and seem to have no interest in keeping people informed on what is going on. Enough on Samsung from me as m43 just suits me fine. To get something like the GM1 you need a completely different mount in NX. How they are going to be able to afford to run 2 separate mounts in mirrorless is going to be interesting.

captura wrote:

Greynerd wrote:

There are still a lot of posts from people around the globe saying that supplies of NX are drying up in their locality. Samsung have no lens road maps and are by far the most taciturn of the ILC suppliers. They have gung ho marketing announcements from time to time which promise the earth but it all fizzles out. They also announce lenses and never produce them. There was a 300mm announced a year ago and still no one has a clue when and if it will appear. A 16-80 was actually announced in Feb 2011 and has never been cancelled (apart from a rumour) and rumours of its imminent appearance or one like it do surface from time to time.

The kit and the lenses from Samsung are OK but the OP would have to get used to receiving zero information on any specific future plans. The rumours primarily exist because there is a vacuum of actual information so they are just sucked in. I have tried NX twice but the lack of bodies and the EVF being reserved for premium users in the current models is a big put off (there is the NX30 but it has been left behind now by the NX500 and I am not sure they are still making it). They did have an add on viewfinder but they scrapped it so I suspect we are not going to get accessories unless they are profitable in their own right.

captura wrote:

aliasfox wrote:

It has been strongly rumored in the past month that both Sony and Samsung are prepping to get out of the camera market - Sony has even gone so far as to reorganize so that its sensor division is no longer tied to its devices (camera) division.

Panasonic has been actively releasing cameras all year, compared to Sony, whose newest APS body is the two year old A6000.

So instead of spending $700 on an A6000, spend it on a 12-35 f/2.8 or a 35-100 f/2.8 lens, and get much better image quality than you'll get out of the A6000 or NX with their respective kit lenses.

Or you could send me the money or the GX7, I could happily use either one.

Rumors, and especially malicious rumors from doubtful sources, are not worth the proverbial "pinch of salt." However, it is still possible that they may get out of the fixed-lens camera business.

Rumor busted: Samsung is *not* exiting the camera business!

http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2015/09/23/rumor-busted-samsung-is-not-exiting-the-camera-business-at-least-not-the-on

Then it's a similar situation to Sony's APS-C products. No new lens or body announcements in nearly 2 years.

Ah yes, the Sammy. Mini!

But my greatest fear is the A6000 line as I have quite a lot invested. I think they will be going away like the Dodo bird. And maybe the A-mount, too.

Greynerd wrote:

I do not think anywhere is safe at the moment. The situation where we have double the mounts since the start of mirrorless with diving camera sales has just got to come to a crunch. Sony are trying to bring out new A7 models as if there is no tomorrow but I doubt if many people are going to churn the premium stuff to give the turnover which they need to keep it all going. It is difficult to see DSLR cracking yet so you never know, Sony may have to scuttle back to aps-c once the novelty of the 35mm film size retro fad is over and the market saturated.

I am just hoping m43 is big enough to survive though I wonder if it may be just Panasonic one day. At least it has a spare maker if one does give up.

Interesting times ahead but I would not despair of your A6000 yet.

Didn't want the A6000, only have the NEX-7 and 5R.

Common sense dictates they should keep the line going. But the man at the helm marches to a different drummer, believe me!

captura wrote:

Greynerd wrote:

Not really as Samsung are making announcements and bringing out new stuff. It is just they do not give away anything on future plans and seem rather casual about announcing stuff that they may not actually produce and seem to have no interest in keeping people informed on what is going on. Enough on Samsung from me as m43 just suits me fine. To get something like the GM1 you need a completely different mount in NX. How they are going to be able to afford to run 2 separate mounts in mirrorless is going to be interesting.

captura wrote:

Greynerd wrote:

There are still a lot of posts from people around the globe saying that supplies of NX are drying up in their locality. Samsung have no lens road maps and are by far the most taciturn of the ILC suppliers. They have gung ho marketing announcements from time to time which promise the earth but it all fizzles out. They also announce lenses and never produce them. There was a 300mm announced a year ago and still no one has a clue when and if it will appear. A 16-80 was actually announced in Feb 2011 and has never been cancelled (apart from a rumour) and rumours of its imminent appearance or one like it do surface from time to time.

The kit and the lenses from Samsung are OK but the OP would have to get used to receiving zero information on any specific future plans. The rumours primarily exist because there is a vacuum of actual information so they are just sucked in. I have tried NX twice but the lack of bodies and the EVF being reserved for premium users in the current models is a big put off (there is the NX30 but it has been left behind now by the NX500 and I am not sure they are still making it). They did have an add on viewfinder but they scrapped it so I suspect we are not going to get accessories unless they are profitable in their own right.

captura wrote:

aliasfox wrote:

It has been strongly rumored in the past month that both Sony and Samsung are prepping to get out of the camera market - Sony has even gone so far as to reorganize so that its sensor division is no longer tied to its devices (camera) division.

Panasonic has been actively releasing cameras all year, compared to Sony, whose newest APS body is the two year old A6000.

So instead of spending $700 on an A6000, spend it on a 12-35 f/2.8 or a 35-100 f/2.8 lens, and get much better image quality than you'll get out of the A6000 or NX with their respective kit lenses.

Or you could send me the money or the GX7, I could happily use either one.

Rumors, and especially malicious rumors from doubtful sources, are not worth the proverbial "pinch of salt." However, it is still possible that they may get out of the fixed-lens camera business.

Rumor busted: Samsung is *not* exiting the camera business!

http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2015/09/23/rumor-busted-samsung-is-not-exiting-the-camera-business-at-least-not-the-on

Then it's a similar situation to Sony's APS-C products. No new lens or body announcements in nearly 2 years.

Ah yes, the Sammy. Mini!

But my greatest fear is the A6000 line as I have quite a lot invested. I think they will be going away like the Dodo bird. And maybe the A-mount, too.