Workflow when travelling with a tablet for backup

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Chris R-UK Forum Pro • Posts: 19,979
Workflow when travelling with a tablet for backup

Currently I use an old, very cheap, netbook for backing up and reviewing images when travelling.  It has enough HD capacity for any trip that I am likely to take and it runs FastStone which is adequate for all my reviewing needs.  I don't now do any editing while travelling after a Galapagos trip where I spent every night editing images.  Now I leave all the editing, except obvious deletions, until I get back.  I don't clear my used memory cards until I have copied everything onto my desktop when I get home and backed it up. Then I reformat the memory cards and clear the netbook's HD.

My wife has an iPad and I have a very cheap, small android tablet which is only used for controlling various music streaming devices.  I have never used either for backing up images.

I think that now is the time to dump the netbook and just take a single tablet for backup and reviewing images as well as normal e-mail and internet use.  I probably need an absolute maximum of 100GB for backup and am quite happy backing up onto USB memory sticks or SD cards.  I shoot raw only and, although I would occasionally like to review an image at full resolution, reviewing the embedded JPEG is OK.  Conversion to JPEG might be useful but as a last resort I can convert in camera.

I would be grateful for any recommendations on what tablet, accesories and software to get and what workflow to use for backing up.

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Dheorl Veteran Member • Posts: 4,119
Re: Workflow when travelling with a tablet for backup
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Buy a surface pro. Use it as you would when backing up on a computer (because that's essentially what it is )

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I use a Surface Pro 3 for almost all my editing these days.  It's that good.  Sure, it's a bit pricey for a tablet, but it's a really fine machine capable of running Lightroom and Photoshop with ease. It could conceivably be your only machine.  My desktop goes weeks at a time without being used.

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OP Chris R-UK Forum Pro • Posts: 19,979
Re: Workflow when travelling with a tablet for backup

I think that the Surface Pro 3 is overkill for what I want to do.

All I want to do is backup and review while I am travelling.  I won't be doing any editing until I get home and then I will use my desktop.

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TomBW Regular Member • Posts: 210
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I just took a week and half trip and backed up using my Dell Venue Pro 8" windows tablet. They are relatively inexpensive and can take micro SD. So each night I plugged the camera in to the USB, transferred photos to the tablet micro SD and reviewed from there. Windows 8/10 have a decent enough photo viewing program that could read my Sony ARW files and do some minor developing if there was anything I really wanted to share right away.

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OP Chris R-UK Forum Pro • Posts: 19,979
Re: Workflow when travelling with a tablet for backup

TomBW wrote:

I just took a week and half trip and backed up using my Dell Venue Pro 8" windows tablet. They are relatively inexpensive and can take micro SD. So each night I plugged the camera in to the USB, transferred photos to the tablet micro SD and reviewed from there. Windows 8/10 have a decent enough photo viewing program that could read my Sony ARW files and do some minor developing if there was anything I really wanted to share right away.

Thanks, Tom.  That is much more like the size and price that I was thinking of.

I will look into it.

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I have a surface pro 3 which is fully loaded.  It is useable as a laptop replacement.  Emphasis on useable.  Useable but not 100% suitable, unless you connect a mouse and keyboard.  But it is an outstanding tablet.

Yes, the SP3 is pricy, but there are also other tablets now that run Windows.  I saw an ad recently for a Teclast X98 Pro.  It is a 10" (I think) tablet that runs 64 bit windows and was listed somewhere around $250.  It also has a very high res screen.

To me a windows based tablet is far better than android with it's watered down 'apps'.  Any tablet that is running windows will (or should) also be able to run your desktop programs.  Having windows on your tablet and laptop/desktop will make for a much easier workflow.

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Ron Poelman
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Funny. I just stuck a hybrid SSD into mine.

500 GB and a useful speed increase for OZ $89 !
Detailed PP on the road just doesn't seem that important
when you know it can wait for the right tools at home.
FastStone here too for initial chuckage,
although it's going to Mint xfce very soon,
so that will mean using another program.
Hard to see anything replacing it on the road. (I'm lucky, mine is 1368*768).

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I just used the progenitor to this tablet in the way you intend on a vacation trip to Europe:

http://www.microcenter.com/product/440932/TW802_Tablet_-_Black

For this trip, I shot only JPEG, and I'd copy the card contents to a directory on the tablet nightly. The Windows 10 Photos app is really not that bad a snapshot editor, so I played with it a bit, straightening, some exposure alteration, and occasional cropping. When I got home, I copied the directory structure I'd built to the server where I archive pictures. I still haven't cleared the cards yet, until I'm happy with the alterations I made.

For an upcoming railroad photo expedition, I plan to do mostly the same, except to shoot RAW+JPEG, separate cards for each. I'll copy them to the tablet nightly, and maybe do a bit of play editing with the JPEGs. I'll save the real editing for at home on my Linux desktop with RawTherapee and the RAW files.

For any tablet used in this role, I would not rely on the internal storage; if the thing dies, your files are stuck inside. On my Win tablet, I moved the libraries (Documents, Videos, Pictures, etc...) to a removable SD card, which also has the side benefit of freeing space on the internal drive for installing programs.  I've trashed a couple of laptops where I just had to pull the hard drive and put it in a USB enclosure to retrieve my files; a similar calamity on a tablet, and I'd be up that creek without a paddle if the libraries weren't on removable media.

Cheap tablet works well, but only for that specific use.  I've tried real PP on the tablet, and it's just too slow and small memory-wise.

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OP Chris R-UK Forum Pro • Posts: 19,979
Backing up on an Android tablet.

I think that I am going to go for a Windows based tablet with a Micro-SD card slot but, if I decide to go for an Android tablet instead is it easy to back up images direct from a camera to a Micro SD card?

Are there apps available that will do this?

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Re: Backing up on an Android tablet.

Chris R-UK wrote: I think that I am going to go for a Windows based tablet with a Micro-SD card slot but, if I decide to go for an Android tablet instead is it easy to back up images direct from a camera to a Micro SD card? Are there apps available that will do this?

Hi Chris, I recently "upped" my tablet to a 10.6" dual-OS one, had Win 8.1 (auto updated to Win 10 - which can be fairly easily made to look and run like Win 7) and Android 4.4. Excellent and not expensive. I went for this one because it also had a "normal" USB2 port in addition to the usual mini one. Large battery too - 8000mAh would you believe. 2GB RAM and 32GB ROM. I have a 32GB pen drive in the USB socket for extra storage - can take larger and can also take an external USB drive - I have a spare 500GB one at home should I ever need it. I got the "magnetic" keyboard/case as that then makes it into virtually a full computer.  At least you can check it out easily - and see my review.  I'm a fairly regular customer of Everbuying and not connected to them in any other way.

Cost today is approx. £120 and the case an extra approx. £15. Here's the link:

http://www.everbuying.net/product875583.html

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OP Chris R-UK Forum Pro • Posts: 19,979
Re: Backing up on an Android tablet.

Zone8 wrote:

Chris R-UK wrote: I think that I am going to go for a Windows based tablet with a Micro-SD card slot but, if I decide to go for an Android tablet instead is it easy to back up images direct from a camera to a Micro SD card? Are there apps available that will do this?

Hi Chris, I recently "upped" my tablet to a 10.6" dual-OS one, had Win 8.1 (auto updated to Win 10 - which can be fairly easily made to look and run like Win 7) and Android 4.4. Excellent and not expensive. I went for this one because it also had a "normal" USB2 port in addition to the usual mini one. Large battery too - 8000mAh would you believe. 2GB RAM and 32GB ROM. I have a 32GB pen drive in the USB socket for extra storage - can take larger and can also take an external USB drive - I have a spare 500GB one at home should I ever need it. I got the "magnetic" keyboard/case as that then makes it into virtually a full computer. At least you can check it out easily - and see my review. I'm a fairly regular customer of Everbuying and not connected to them in any other way.

Cost today is approx. £120 and the case an extra approx. £15. Here's the link:

http://www.everbuying.net/product875583.html

That is amazingly cheap.  Have you ever had to return anything to them under warranty?

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Re: Backing up on an Android tablet.

Chris R-UK wrote:

I think that I am going to go for a Windows based tablet with a Micro-SD card slot but, if I decide to go for an Android tablet instead is it easy to back up images direct from a camera to a Micro SD card?

Are there apps available that will do this?

I've put the micro SD from my camera into my android phone to view photos and personally didn't find the user experience as good as using my windows tablet. Maybe the 5.5" display vs. 8" was part of it, but I think it was more of a thing where default windows 10 just had everything I needed built in where Android I would have needed to search for the right apps to do what I wanted.

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Re: Backing up on an Android tablet.

Touch wood no and that's over about 3 years. You could also search amazon.co.uk as some now also list there. I believe TinyDeal.com (also used same period) now have UK warehouse. If I can help more just mail me. P.S. I don't get commission!

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Re: Backing up on an Android tablet.

I have used an Android tablet for backup on a couple of trips, and it is basically a nightmare to get it to work. The Android OS is simply not designed for large-scale file tranfers.

These days I use a hybrid Windows PC, The Asus 100T for traveling backup. When traveling by car, or flying with generous baggage weight allowances, I take the whole PC, with USB port and 500GB internal drive.

When baggage restictions apply, I just take the tablet part, with a mini-USB-to-regular-USB converter cable, a card-reader, and a couple of 128GB USB-sticks.

So far, it has proven adequate for my needs.

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Re: Workflow when travelling with a tablet for backup

I use an Android tablet and a windows laptop. Apart from relying on backup on other storage devices, I also keep my work on Dropbox as a safety measure.

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Re: Workflow when travelling with a tablet for backup

photofreak985 wrote:

I use an Android tablet and a windows laptop. Apart from relying on backup on other storage devices, I also keep my work on Dropbox as a safety measure.

Can you actually backup on the tablet?  The only other comment on Android tablets in this thread says that it is very difficult.

At the moment I am looking at Windows tablets since they seem to be the only practical option for backing up onto a Micro SD card.

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Re: Workflow when travelling with a tablet for backup

Chris R-UK wrote:

photofreak985 wrote:

I use an Android tablet and a windows laptop. Apart from relying on backup on other storage devices, I also keep my work on Dropbox as a safety measure.

Can you actually backup on the tablet? The only other comment on Android tablets in this thread says that it is very difficult.

At the moment I am looking at Windows tablets since they seem to be the only practical option for backing up onto a Micro SD card.

Although I use a windows tablet now I have in the past backed up on an android tablet. Using an OTG cable you can simply plug in a SD card reader and using a file manager app just copy and paste to the tablets micro SD. I then went one step further and plugged in an external HDD and copied them across to there but this isn't really necessary, especially if you're uploading to dropbox.

I'm not sure if this works with all tablets without some form of rooting though. At the time I had a samsung tablet which from what I gather normally are more agreeable with external storage.

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Have a look at Photo Mate R2. You'll find it on Google play. I think I paid about three quid for it.

Not used it much yet so can't really give any feedback.

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