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Is the 50mm STM really that good?

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(unknown member) Contributing Member • Posts: 650
Is the 50mm STM really that good?

Ok, I am still looking into a 50mm lens, can't make up my mind. One thing I checked was vignetting. Removing it is easy, but with the old 5DII, making corners lighter in post can be bad. So I looked for the 50mm lens with the least amount of vignetting and I found this:

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Lens-Vignetting-Test-Results.aspx?Lens=989&Camera=453&FLI=0&API=1&LensComp=105&CameraComp=9&FLIComp=0&APIComp=1

I thought that the 50mm STM is almost the same lens as the 50mm II. The STM has a smaller filter size too, but at f/2, vignetting looks soo much better in this test. Hell, it is even better than the mighty OTUS:

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Lens-Vignetting-Test-Results.aspx?Lens=989&Camera=453&FLI=0&API=1&LensComp=917&CameraComp=453&FLIComp=0&APIComp=1

So, can this be true? Is this tiny and cheap lens this good? Has anybody here made the same observation?

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Canon EF 50mm F1.8 STM
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J A C S
J A C S Forum Pro • Posts: 20,544
Re: Is the 50mm STM really that good?

I only used the old 50/1.8 II but what you posted is odd. This is what PZ found:

And here is the old one:

I wonder if TDP tested in on the 5DS and that somehow changed the results.

Al Downie Senior Member • Posts: 1,407
Re: Is the 50mm STM really that good?

Kreitmann wrote:

Ok, I am still looking into a 50mm lens, can't make up my mind. One thing I checked was vignetting. Removing it is easy, but with the old 5DII, making corners lighter in post can be bad. So I looked for the 50mm lens with the least amount of vignetting

Weird.. I almost always deliberately add vignetting to my images in post.

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Powerdoc Veteran Member • Posts: 3,941
Re: Is the 50mm STM really that good?

Kreitmann wrote:

Ok, I am still looking into a 50mm lens, can't make up my mind. One thing I checked was vignetting. Removing it is easy, but with the old 5DII, making corners lighter in post can be bad. So I looked for the 50mm lens with the least amount of vignetting and I found this:

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Lens-Vignetting-Test-Results.aspx?Lens=989&Camera=453&FLI=0&API=1&LensComp=105&CameraComp=9&FLIComp=0&APIComp=1

I thought that the 50mm STM is almost the same lens as the 50mm II. The STM has a smaller filter size too, but at f/2, vignetting looks soo much better in this test. Hell, it is even better than the mighty OTUS:

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Lens-Vignetting-Test-Results.aspx?Lens=989&Camera=453&FLI=0&API=1&LensComp=917&CameraComp=453&FLIComp=0&APIComp=1

So, can this be true? Is this tiny and cheap lens this good? Has anybody here made the same observation?

I don't know for vignetting

The only thing that I could tell you, is that on my 6D, I have a better contrast for the whole scene and details with my 50 STM, rather than my 50 1,4.

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Sean Setters New Member • Posts: 1
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Hi, Sean here. I work with Bryan at The-Digital-Picture.com. We've double checked our results and nothing seems to be out of line as far as our testing procedures and processing are concerned.

Yes, Canon says the 50mm f/1.8 STM optical formula is the same as its predecessor. But there are definitely some differences between the two lenses – including MM, MFD, lens coatings and the overall lens housing changes– that seem to indicate there may be design elements (other than the optical formula) that have contributed to the reduced vignetting.  That's our theory, at least.

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J A C S
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Re: Is the 50mm STM really that good?

I wonder if the new 50 STM communicates instructions to the camera to cook the RAW even more than before.

OP (unknown member) Contributing Member • Posts: 650
Re: Is the 50mm STM really that good?

Al Downie wrote:

Kreitmann wrote:

Ok, I am still looking into a 50mm lens, can't make up my mind. One thing I checked was vignetting. Removing it is easy, but with the old 5DII, making corners lighter in post can be bad. So I looked for the 50mm lens with the least amount of vignetting

Weird.. I almost always deliberately add vignetting to my images in post.

Adding vignetting is a great way to improve a photo, but I would prefer to start with a good image anyway.

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OP (unknown member) Contributing Member • Posts: 650
Re: Is the 50mm STM really that good?

Thank you for the info. This is more what I would expect to see, so maybe TDP messed something up with the test.

J A C S wrote:

I only used the old 50/1.8 II but what you posted is odd. This is what PZ found:

And here is the old one:

I wonder if TDP tested in on the 5DS and that somehow changed the results.

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Ignore this

I couldn't withdraw it, so please ignore.

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PalmettoFellow Senior Member • Posts: 1,171
It's likely the BEST 50mm f1.8 lens you can get for $125

The Plastic Fantastic, Nifty Fifty has been updated and it's even better than ever.  I don't own one, but plan to.  From what I can tell, it's worth every bit of the meager $125 price tag.

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OP (unknown member) Contributing Member • Posts: 650
Re: Is the 50mm STM really that good?

Powerdoc wrote:

Kreitmann wrote:

Ok, I am still looking into a 50mm lens, can't make up my mind. One thing I checked was vignetting. Removing it is easy, but with the old 5DII, making corners lighter in post can be bad. So I looked for the 50mm lens with the least amount of vignetting and I found this:

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Lens-Vignetting-Test-Results.aspx?Lens=989&Camera=453&FLI=0&API=1&LensComp=105&CameraComp=9&FLIComp=0&APIComp=1

I thought that the 50mm STM is almost the same lens as the 50mm II. The STM has a smaller filter size too, but at f/2, vignetting looks soo much better in this test. Hell, it is even better than the mighty OTUS:

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Lens-Vignetting-Test-Results.aspx?Lens=989&Camera=453&FLI=0&API=1&LensComp=917&CameraComp=453&FLIComp=0&APIComp=1

So, can this be true? Is this tiny and cheap lens this good? Has anybody here made the same observation?

I don't know for vignetting

The only thing that I could tell you, is that on my 6D, I have a better contrast for the whole scene and details with my 50 STM, rather than my 50 1,4.

That is good news, I never liked the 1.4, because to contrast was just bad wide open. The STM looks better every day.

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Al Downie Senior Member • Posts: 1,407
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Kreitmann wrote:

Adding vignetting is a great way to improve a photo, but I would prefer to start with a good image anyway.

That's great, but i wouldn't get too hung up about it, to the extent that you start agonising over numbers and graphs. The 50L produces VERY strong vignetting wide open, and I confess it took me by surprise the first time I saw it, but I love it and shoot wide open a LOT.

Buy the lens you love, and work with it, get used to it, and use its features (including vignetting) to your advantage! Enjoy, don't fret...

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Cheatdeath New Member • Posts: 24
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I just ordered one on Ebay for $115. Looking forward to trying it out. Everything I could find says its worth every penny.

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OP (unknown member) Contributing Member • Posts: 650
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Sean Setters wrote:

Hi, Sean here. I work with Bryan at The-Digital-Picture.com. We've double checked our results and nothing seems to be out of line as far as our testing procedures and processing are concerned.

Yes, Canon says the 50mm f/1.8 STM optical formula is the same as its predecessor. But there are definitely some differences between the two lenses – including MM, MFD, lens coatings and the overall lens housing changes– that seem to indicate there may be design elements (other than the optical formula) that have contributed to the reduced vignetting. That's our theory, at least.

This is very interesting. Thank you for the info and for all the work you do. TDP is such a great source.

Alexsfo Senior Member • Posts: 2,362
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I tried it on my 6d and got rid of it after one day of shooting. It works ok but I found that AF is not very accurate in low light and images have a duller "kit"-like look compared to L lenses or even 40mm pancake. I am not impressed with colors and contrast at f1.8 and not at all impressed with bokeh quality. With postprocessing, it can produce good results though. It's a great beginner lens or for infrequent use but when comparinng to 85mm f1.8 images or even 50mm f1.4, the difference is striking.

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Al Downie Senior Member • Posts: 1,407
Re: Is the 50mm STM really that good?

Alexsfo wrote:

images have a duller "kit"-like look compared to L lenses or even 40mm pancake.

Agree - from what I've seen, the 40mm seems a better lens for the money.

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stratobill Senior Member • Posts: 2,081
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Al Downie wrote:

Alexsfo wrote:

images have a duller "kit"-like look compared to L lenses or even 40mm pancake.

Agree - from what I've seen, the 40mm seems a better lens for the money.

I have both, and they look pretty similar to me. The 40 I think is a tad better, but I prefer the focal length anyway..

Fro sure the new 50 is better than it's predecessors.

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Alexsfo Senior Member • Posts: 2,362
Re: Is the 50mm STM really that good?

Al Downie wrote:

Alexsfo wrote:

images have a duller "kit"-like look compared to L lenses or even 40mm pancake.

Agree - from what I've seen, the 40mm seems a better lens for the money.

I have both, and they look pretty similar to me. The 40 I think is a tad better, but I prefer the focal length anyway..

Fro sure the new 50 is better than it's predecessors.

It is definately better than predecessor:
- better bokeh though still poor but the old one had the worst bokeh ever
- quieter AF
- metal mount
- smaller - almost pancake
- apparently better optics

Nevertheless, images look very similar to the old one. They lack contrast and color, and don't transcend skin tonality the way higher end Canon lenses do on FF bodies. I very much like cinematic images that Canon 6d produce wth better lenses. 50mm STM is still a great choice for beginners or for those not spoiled by magical L glass. It is a solid budget option which makes Canon EF such a great and versatile system for any level.

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