What's your PC specs for your a7RII raw files?

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JLim22 Contributing Member • Posts: 501
What's your PC specs for your a7RII raw files?

I'm just curious what people are using to edit their a7RII raw files.

I'm using a i5 8gb ram ssd laptop and it was running so smoothly with my previous Canon cameras, but it seems pretty slow for the a7RII files. In LR, it literally takes couple of seconds to load each image. This is probably one of the reason why some might not like the large 42mp files.

C1 seems to run faster than LR, but after playing with it for couple of weeks, I decided to stay with LR.

I'm going to try to convince my wife that I need a new laptop...  haha

Please let me know what you're using so that I can gauge what I need. Thx!

pc or mac:

processor:

ram:

hd or ssd:

raw file performance with LR:

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bravomail Regular Member • Posts: 424
Re: What's your PC specs for your a7RII raw files?
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I'm going to disappoint you from the get-go - don't use laptops if you are after performance.

My suggestion - make DIY desktop PC - there are plenty of guides.

Get i7 class CPU - it has hyperthreading which is beneficial. Get non-kit cooler.

Also get decent video card - although not sure which kind is best supported for GPU acceleration. DxO doesn't seem to benefit from GPU. CaptureOne seems to get better. LR - is widely dismissed for Sony RAWs. Check newegg for cards in 150-200 range to get the idea. GF750Ti or higher with 4K support recommended.

RAM - 8GB is enough for basic RAW processing. But if you use offline Photoshop or similar software - they like RAM, the more the merrier. 16GB is recommended. 32 is overkill.

Hard disk - get regular and/or external USB 1-8TB for storage and backups and internal SSD 500GB (480) for OS and temp storage of RAWs (while you process them). Samsung Pro seems to be fastest (but not cheapest), and Crucial seems to be cheapest.

Get decent monitor - 4K 27" IPS LED recommended (Dell has one for ~500).

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Re: What's your PC specs for your a7RII raw files?

JLim22 wrote:

pc or mac:

pc

processor:

i7-4810mq

ram:

32GB

hd or ssd:

both

raw file performance with LR:

not using LR

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sevo_stille Regular Member • Posts: 294
Re: What's your PC specs for your a7RII raw files?

That is not really a matter of the Sony files, but of Lightroom 6/CC - which is not happy with a mere 8GB of RAM any more. I only use that bloatware for past projects, and have otherwise moved to C1.

Promit Senior Member • Posts: 2,083
Re: What's your PC specs for your a7RII raw files?

I'm probably not a good example, as this PC was built for things far more difficult than simply photo editing. But here we go:

PC, Windows 8 until 10 seems stable enough. Core i7-5930k (hex-core with HT) at 3.5 GHz. 32 GB memory (half filled, will move to 64 soon). Old dual AMD HD 7970s which hopefully will change over to NV 980s soon. I use a RAID 0 array of three WD Black 4 TB drives for my photos, and an SSD RAID 0 for my video editing.

It is more than adequate I'm using Dell UltraSharp monitors, most recently the U2715H (sRGB gamut model), calibrated with the X-Rite i1.

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Re: What's your PC specs for your a7RII raw files?

JLim22 wrote:

I'm just curious what people are using to edit their a7RII raw files.

Custom built PC (that's been my main hobby since childhood)

Intel core i7 4770k @ 4.3ghz on water

16GB DDR3

A pair of Samsung Evo SSDs in RAID 0

Nvidia GTX 780 TI w/32" Acer 4k IPS monitor and 27" HP 1440p monitor

I keep my Lightroom catalog on the PC (SSDs) but my RAW files are stored on my Qnap 12TB NAS. As for the performance, I can't tell a difference editing images from the A7II, A7RII, or much else. Import speed is slower due to being on a NAS (only doing about 120MBps copy speed) but everything else feels just fine.

I agree with others. A desktop w/large monitor is the way to go, not a laptop.

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Re: What's your PC specs for your a7RII raw files?

I mainly run Capture One anymore.   Recently moved to a self built PC over a new 27" iMac.  Previous iMac was 5 years old.    The difference in a good Gaming video card over the iMac's mobile video card is staggering when exporting processed images.

Saved about $1000 below the current iMac and the PC is much faster,  though you have to be willing to deal with more fan noise than the iMac.

AMD 8350 4Ghz overclocked to 4.3Ghz

GeForce 960 G1 4GB video card -  also overclocked

16GB Ram

256GB SSD HD

3TB SATA HD

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JeffGo Contributing Member • Posts: 840
Re: What's your PC specs for your a7RII raw files?

Homebuilt PC.

Current: 2nd Gen Core I7-875K @ 2.93GHz, Asus MB, 16GB, 256GB Samsung SSD for OS (Win10) - only running @ SATA II speed, data stored on 3 HDDs mostly SATA II, AMD R9 280, NEC PA272W 2560x1440 + Dell U2410 1920x1200. LR6 CC. I would not call this speedy on loading A7rII  or even A7r.

Planned:

6th Gen I7 (Sky Lake) probably I7-6700 (TBD), Asus or Asrock (?) MB, 32GB, 500-512GB Samsung SSD (M.2), same HDDs, video, monitors. Catalog moved to SSD - although I don't believe that's a perf issue for me.

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Mac/Xeon processor/64GB RAM/SSD+HDD/2 graphic cards

What do photo editing computer and game computer have in common? They both need to be fast to get your creative juice running.

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Abrak Veteran Member • Posts: 4,204
Re: Mac/Xeon processor/64GB RAM/SSD+HDD/2 graphic cards

I upgraded my computer when I got the A7rii for exactly the reason you mention. I dont really think any laptop will cut it (although I am a pretty heavy PS user.) My laptop was a Razer Blade gaming laptop with i7, 2gb video card and 1.5TB of SSDs but only 8gb of ram.

So I replaced my laptop with a desktop ...

processor i4790k

Video card Nvidia 960 2GB (I dont do video)

Ram 32GB (overkill but PS loves ram)

Hard disks

1 x 480gb pcie flash (c drive)

2 x 1TB SSDs

1 x 2TB hard drive

Total cost about the same new as my old gaming laptop was when new.

Performance increase when using this PS action listed here http://www.gavtrain.com/?p=1509

...went from 1min 20 seconds to 19 seconds....

My computer is probably now well over the top but I wanted to get something that would last as I am not very tech literate for upgrading...

Robert98 Regular Member • Posts: 189
Re: What's your PC specs for your a7RII raw files?

Not felt the urge to upgrade my MacBook Pro Retina Mid 2012, 2.6Ghz i7, 16GB RAM, GT650M 1GB, 512GB SSD, running Yosemite.

Using C1Pro, seems to run at about the same speed as LR did with my old Canon 18MP images. ie occasional pauses as I load the next image, but no stuttering whilst actually working on images.

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Re: Mac/Xeon processor/64GB RAM/SSD+HDD/2 graphic cards

Abrak wrote:

I upgraded my computer when I got the A7rii for exactly the reason you mention. I dont really think any laptop will cut it (although I am a pretty heavy PS user.) My laptop was a Razer Blade gaming laptop with i7, 2gb video card and 1.5TB of SSDs but only 8gb of ram.

So I replaced my laptop with a desktop ...

processor i4790k

This processor is fine. You don't really need a Xeon processor for photo editing.

Video card Nvidia 960 2GB (I dont do video)

Ram 32GB (overkill but PS loves ram)

I don't think this is overkill. I ran my Mac Pro with 16GB first but it was quite slow after I used LR and other plug-ins for some time. After upgrading to 64GB, it does not slow down anymore. I think 32GB is just barely enough.

Hard disks

1 x 480gb pcie flash (c drive)

2 x 1TB SSDs

1 x 2TB hard drive

I am trying to keep my cost down. So I would use one PCIe flash drive as working drive. Then moving the finished images to HDs. I have only 1 catalog in LR but it runs across several drives. So it is easy to move files around.

Total cost about the same new as my old gaming laptop was when new.

Performance increase when using this PS action listed here http://www.gavtrain.com/?p=1509

...went from 1min 20 seconds to 19 seconds....

My computer is probably now well over the top but I wanted to get something that would last as I am not very tech literate for upgrading...

I think your computer is fine. The weakest link in your hardware is the size of the RAM. But if you run Windows, you will need to clean it up regularly.

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Re: What's your PC specs for your a7RII raw files?

4-year old iMac (i7 processor), 12 GB memory, loads RAW files into C1 extremely smooth, (less than a second) even from external drive. If I anticipate heavy editing, open and save, I load the raws onto internal SSD.

SSD is probably the biggest performance boost you can get (for OS and applications).

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Re: Mac/Xeon processor/64GB RAM/SSD+HDD/2 graphic cards

vett93 wrote:

Video card Nvidia 960 2GB (I dont do video)

Ram 32GB (overkill but PS loves ram)

I don't think this is overkill. I ran my Mac Pro with 16GB first but it was quite slow after I used LR and other plug-ins for some time. After upgrading to 64GB, it does not slow down anymore. I think 32GB is just barely enough.

I find that Macs need substantially more memory than PCs for most tasks. My rule of thumb is to just add 8-16 GB on the Mac side for comparable performance, and really you're just better off maxing it out right off the bat. My old MBP had to be retired as the maxed out 8 GB became insufficient for basic work tasks. My current rMBP at 16 is just adequate memory-wise, whereas my older 16 GB PCs are struggling with other things (mainly CPU) first. I don't know what it is about OSX that is consuming so much, it's not as if Windows is lightweight. I don't think it's extra stuff running on the system, but rather the system itself (so all apps across the board take a lot more memory).

It's a pity that Apple charges so much for memory upgrades, and also unfortunate that Apple doesn't have a product line between laptops (iMacs included in that category) and pro workstations with stuff I don't have much use for (FireGL, ECC memory, dual Xeon are all cool but not really that useful for my work).

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Promit wrote:


It's a pity that Apple charges so much for memory upgrades, and also unfortunate that Apple doesn't have a product line between laptops (iMacs included in that category) and pro workstations with stuff I don't have much use for (FireGL, ECC memory, dual Xeon are all cool but not really that useful for my work).

Have you heard of running MacOSX on a PC? macosx86 is the project name, I think.

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bravomail wrote:

Promit wrote:

It's a pity that Apple charges so much for memory upgrades, and also unfortunate that Apple doesn't have a product line between laptops (iMacs included in that category) and pro workstations with stuff I don't have much use for (FireGL, ECC memory, dual Xeon are all cool but not really that useful for my work).

Have you heard of running MacOSX on a PC? macosx86 is the project name, I think.

Sure but it's a hassle and not completely stable. My Macs are for work and that frequently includes doing things like running OSX betas. Can't rely on anything but an actual Apple machine for that sort of thing. I have a high spec rMBP and a very high spec PC and I split the work between the two as needed.

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Used to own my own custom PC building company a few years ago.. That being said, this is what i use right now....

I'm mainly using a 2013 15inch Macbook pro retina and it does just fine, due to its dedicated nvidia video card and fast SSD. Excellent computer. So I would recommend macbook pro retina as my number one choice for you for PHOTO editing. The screen is a PLEASURE to edit on. I often edit my photos while in bed or watching TV on the couch.

I also have a powerful Desktop gaming PC I've built myself. with an overclocked and watercooled i7 4770k, 32 GB ram, and nvidia gtx 980, and 512GB SSD. To be honest though, this is overkill for any photo editing needs. Also have a home build NAS running freeNAS with 16TB of space in RAID 6. (z2)

The number one priority is whatever you opt for, make sure it has a SSD on it. As big as possible to edit on and at least 8 GB ram.

Photo editing is not as demanding as some people in the thread make it out to be.. its video editing that needs the real Juice... So if you're also planning to edit 4k video then go for a high end system, if not just stick with a mid range system or any macbook pro retina with a dedicated video card.

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Re: Mac/Xeon processor/64GB RAM/SSD+HDD/2 graphic cards

Promit wrote:

vett93 wrote:

Video card Nvidia 960 2GB (I dont do video)

Ram 32GB (overkill but PS loves ram)

I don't think this is overkill. I ran my Mac Pro with 16GB first but it was quite slow after I used LR and other plug-ins for some time. After upgrading to 64GB, it does not slow down anymore. I think 32GB is just barely enough.

I find that Macs need substantially more memory than PCs for most tasks. My rule of thumb is to just add 8-16 GB on the Mac side for comparable performance, and really you're just better off maxing it out right off the bat. My old MBP had to be retired as the maxed out 8 GB became insufficient for basic work tasks. My current rMBP at 16 is just adequate memory-wise, whereas my older 16 GB PCs are struggling with other things (mainly CPU) first. I don't know what it is about OSX that is consuming so much, it's not as if Windows is lightweight. I don't think it's extra stuff running on the system, but rather the system itself (so all apps across the board take a lot more memory).

It's a pity that Apple charges so much for memory upgrades, and also unfortunate that Apple doesn't have a product line between laptops (iMacs included in that category) and pro workstations with stuff I don't have much use for (FireGL, ECC memory, dual Xeon are all cool but not really that useful for my work).

I am not sure about this, actually I see my i5 4GB RAMd MBA 13" and i5 8GB RAMd MBA 11" performing pretty much equally when handling A7 and A7r files in LR, and both just a tad less snappy than my high-spec´d rMBP 15" (it is a pleasure seeing photos on a retina screen). They all are way faster and more comfortable for me than my Surface Pro or my wife´s core i7 PC (the Macbook trackpads are magical enough to make me stop bother editing files in LR on PCs).

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Re: What's your PC specs for your a7RII raw files?

I have a Intel 4670k running at 4.5Ghz with 16Gb of memory and a Samsung 256Gb SSD. It opens RAW files from the A7RII with Photo Ninja with no problem.

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Re: Mac/Xeon processor/64GB RAM/SSD+HDD/2 graphic cards

8 GB RAM are plenty on my iMac. When I added 4 to make it 12 GB I did not notice any difference in Photoshop. Unless you are opening dozens of addition layers onto your RAW, it really should make no difference.

The bottle neck is more likely the read/write speed to your hard drive and the internal bus.

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