Upgrade from G11 to G7X - Is it worth it?

I really haven't had much opportunity to play around with my new G7X. With what little time I had, I did a single shot comparison - both cameras in automode.

G11 Image

G7X Image

What do you think? What is a reasonable size print based on crispness for each of these?

I can see that the G7X image is slightly better - but is it worth the difference? I am not too impressed.

Maybe my quick test is not a fair comparison. Maybe the G7X shines better under some other conditions. Please try to convince me to not return the G7X.

Thanks in advance for your opinions. I value your comments.

All I can say is that I passed on the G7X.  I thought the S95 was as good, and the G15 was somewhat better.  Instead of the G7X, take a look at a Caon refurbished G15 for around $250.

This is not the most fortunate comparison (to say at least), as in good (day)light almost any camera nowadays is good enough (comparative).

Also, [Auto] mode is heavily dependent on camera`s internal programming which basically tries to read your mind and provide what it thinks you wanted to accomplish - while doing it just fine, where G7 X excels are more manual (semi or full manual) modes, providing much more creative possibilities (due to its lighter/faster lens and bigger sensor).

If these are the conditions you will usually be shooting in, then maybe G7 X is not worth it - you`ll pay much more for it, and you won`t even be using it`s real potential.

On the other hand, if you want to shoot low-light photos as well, then as already mentioned here, G7 X is just much, much better - no comparison here. To see what we mean, it would be good to make some (really) low light images yourself, and not just in [Auto] mode. Zooming in low-light conditions is also something worth testing

Buying a fast sports car may not be worth it if the only thing you`ll be using it for is picking up groceries from the market nearby. Again, as people said, in the end it`s really up to you what you find worth the price you pay.

Some great points made with replies from others so far...

In good light, a modern, decent mobile absolutely will take shots nearly indistinguishable from what a stand alome camera provides. Especially if viewing them on computer and not cropped.

Where the g7x smokes g11 is with bokeh and its ability with low light shots, both in terms of noise and versatility offered.

Go out and do some evening shooting of static and moving subjects, or take some portraits and see how the g11 fairs. Not only with how the image looks, but how easy it is to satisfactorily catch the image.

Try some twilight/evening shots. Before dark. Shoot in av mode and keep an eye on ISO and aperture. I think you'll find the g7x makes it much easier to get satisfactory images and they'll be significantly cleaner. I have the S120 (same sensor as g16) and really miss the versatility of the larger sensor. Just makes things so much easier.

I own a G7X and it was after months of deciding what actually to purchase. I picked what I wanted, and I am happy and don't regret it.

I have other cameras, but this one was to be a Carry Around with the abilities of close to my DSLR. I wanted small, high quality, fit in pockets, and easy to carry.

If you don't like it, return it. Only you can really be happy with your purchase. I read so many reviews, opinions, and the like.. I was tired and  I just pulled the trigger.

Here are some photos with my G7X... out of the camera, not technically good, or even good or PP'd. But these were all in my "Testing / Playing" phase. Plus.. I pretty much keep any "Good" picture of my dog (non blurry or just dumb).

Garage, Low Light, Daytime, hand held with screen flipped up. I like this feature.

Outside, Handheld.

Light was tricky, it was getting dark because of the storm, hand held, good test photo.

You have got a really lovely dog! She (He ?) is sooo nice !

AdkPaddler wrote:

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As it has been said, older G cameras can keep up in certain situations, which is awesome. Not so in other situations, especially if you know what you´re doing. G7X is technically superior camera, and it´s only up to you if you can let it live up to your expectations, if you set it well and so on. I´d buy G7X or Sony RX100 for compact cam without hesitation. These are awesome, and generally "best ones".

Nice Malamute you have there

Gotamal wrote:

I own a G7X and it was after months of deciding what actually to purchase. I picked what I wanted, and I am happy and don't regret it.

I have other cameras, but this one was to be a Carry Around with the abilities of close to my DSLR. I wanted small, high quality, fit in pockets, and easy to carry.

If you don't like it, return it. Only you can really be happy with your purchase. I read so many reviews, opinions, and the like.. I was tired and I just pulled the trigger.

Here are some photos with my G7X... out of the camera, not technically good, or even good or PP'd. But these were all in my "Testing / Playing" phase. Plus.. I pretty much keep any "Good" picture of my dog (non blurry or just dumb).

Garage, Low Light, Daytime, hand held with screen flipped up. I like this feature.

Outside, Handheld.

Light was tricky, it was getting dark because of the storm, hand held, good test photo.

Loving the 3rd shot here. Cool picture.

Thanks guys... Did not mean to steal the thread. I wanted to show the versatility of the G7x. But yeah.. .she is cool. My first dog.

The last pic was again to test the contrast of things.. it was getting dark because of the storm, and the colors were just really neat.

I was very shocked on how this photo turned out for a quick snapshot. Dark and yet, kind of clear.

Thanks for the comments, but I would hate for the OP to return his camera. I love it. I dont take selfies.. but the swivel movement helps me take "Close to the Ground" photos. Which is really cool.. for dog pix!

Just found my old G-11, haven't used it in 4 years. Took it to France in 2011. Just printed a photo from Annecy, France of a boat canal, 12" x 18", came out real nice. Decided to use it as my backup for me d750 when I'm out at night, dinner, or early morning when I just want to capture some things in a simple way.

Annecy, France, the alps, boat canal. Badly overcast sky, used ND filter to do the best I could. Enjoy.

AdkPaddler wrote:

G11 Image

G7X Image

The greenish colder pictures of G7X are seriously annoying, imo G11 looks nicer colour wise. This is one of the main reason why I didn't buy the G7X yet, too many samples that I have seen are too green for my taste. I don't know why did Canon do this, because pictures on SX, S and G models are not as green and cold as on G7X, hopefully Canon will get it better with G7X mk2, if not then there is still hope with RX100 mk4.

I mean take a look, every picture of G7x in this comparison to Rx100 and LX100 is too green or too cold, really dislike this.

skin is way too green on G7x

G7X is too green or too blue, RX100 is too red or blue but the picture with the women is a lot nicer and more natural looking than on G7X while LX100 and GM1 seems to be the best in almost every comparison, just right, not to red, blue or green, maybe just a bit too green in the last comparison.

AdkPaddler wrote:

G11 Image

G7X Image

The greenish colder pictures of G7X are seriously annoying, imo G11 looks nicer colour wise. This is one of the main reason why I didn't buy the G7X yet, too many samples that I have seen are too green for my taste. I don't know why did Canon do this, because pictures on SX, S and G models are not as green and cold as on G7X, hopefully Canon will get it better with G7X mk2, if not then there is still hope with RX100 mk4.

I mean take a look, every picture of G7x in this comparison to Rx100 and LX100 is too green or too cold, really dislike this.

skin is way too green on G7x

G7X is too green or too blue, RX100 is too red or blue but the picture with the women is a lot nicer and more natural looking than on G7X while LX100 and GM1 seems to be the best in almost every comparison, just right, not to red, blue or green, maybe just a bit too green in the last comparison.

Everyone has their own taste. They look fine to me. Another person could look and say wtf is the green in these other shots... So notch down the green a level in settings. Problem solved.

Thanks for those comparison photos. From reading threads people say that the G7X is meant to produce better jpegs than the RX100iii (and that's what I shoot) but these photos would make me wonder.

The G7X look nice on their own BUT when you compare them to the RX100iii it appears that the RX100iii photos are more 'natural' and that the G7X seem warmer.

Oh, my brain hurts from analysis-paralysis. And to make matters worse the Sony isn't available locally so I can't spend good time handling them both. I tried one for less than 5 mins in a store in Dublin last weekend and was underwhelmed by the viewfinder, which brings the G7X into consideration for me.  I'll have a chance to play with them both in a month but hope I don't spend the next month viewing comparisons and opinions....but know I will.