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E-PL6 a good choice?

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Roger Wiseman Junior Member • Posts: 35
E-PL6 a good choice?

I am looking for a second body to back up my EM10.  I want to replace my E-P1 with a newer generation Pen.  Budget is an issue.  Now that the E-PL6 is available in the US, I see a very good price of $299 with the 14-42 kit lens at several stores, including Olympus itself.

I would sell the lens, since I have better alternatives in my kit, leaving me with a net price of $240 or $250.  Is this a good idea?  What alternatives are there that would be better?

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(unknown member) Veteran Member • Posts: 3,010
Re: E-PL6 a good choice?

Yes to me that is an excellent idea. The EPL6 has a much better sensor the same as your EM10. Go for it..
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Helen
Helen Veteran Member • Posts: 7,606
Re: E-PL6 a good choice?

Roger Wiseman wrote:

I am looking for a second body to back up my EM10. I want to replace my E-P1 with a newer generation Pen. Budget is an issue. Now that the E-PL6 is available in the US, I see a very good price of $299 with the 14-42 kit lens at several stores, including Olympus itself.

I would sell the lens, since I have better alternatives in my kit, leaving me with a net price of $240 or $250. Is this a good idea? What alternatives are there that would be better?

The E-PL6 is a perfectly nice camera, but be aware that it is of the previous generation to the E-M10; it is basically an E-PL5 with a new paint job and some nice little firmware tweaks (99-frame interval timer, the "short release lag" option, 2-direction level gauge display option, and compatibility with the VF-4 EVF's eye sensor operation [albeit a little bit slow]).  Unfortunately, the US Olympus site claims it has 3-axis IBIS (like the E-M10) but it doesn't - it is 2-axis, just like the E-PL5 - I know this for sure since I have an E-PL6.  Interestingly, when you look at the hidden codes of the E-PL6, it actually has the same internal model number as the E-PL5.  Because of its generation, it doesn't have the 0-second Anti Shock option, which I find very useful.

Though price might be a barrier, I'd say that the E-PL7 would be an interesting possibility, since its IBIS and internal features are the same as the E-M10 (obviously it has no EVF, built-in flash or second control dial though).

gary payne Senior Member • Posts: 1,026
Re: E-PL6 a good choice?

I recently bought one for a compact alternative to the larger M4/3 bodies.  I twisted the 20mm on it and it takes about the same quality pictures as my EM1, as expected, same sensor.  It's quite good at face recognition, oversaturates color on AUTO when my wife uses it, blows out highlights a tiny bit more than the EM1 so I set it on -.5ev, However, I do miss the EVF.  You are coming from the EP1 so you shouldn't have any trouble with that.

I can put the EPL6 in a baggy cargo pants pocket and it does the job in a pinch.  If I am doing some serious photography, I will be bringing the EM1, but at the price you mentioned, frankly, the EPL6 is a killer deal, an amazing value.

And yes, I too would sell the zoom, my preference to use the 20mm f.17.  No flash needed.

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bs1946
bs1946 Veteran Member • Posts: 7,779
Re: E-PL6 a good choice?

Roger Wiseman wrote:

I am looking for a second body to back up my EM10. I want to replace my E-P1 with a newer generation Pen. Budget is an issue. Now that the E-PL6 is available in the US, I see a very good price of $299 with the 14-42 kit lens at several stores, including Olympus itself.

I have an E-M10 and like you wanted a second body. My short list was a GM5 or an EPL-7. I went to my local camera dealer, who had neither but offered me an open box EPL-5 kit for $375, before Olympus dropped the price from $399 to $349, so I bought it.

Except for a few firmware upgrades, which you may or may not use, the EPL-6 is the same camera as the EPL-5 for $50 less.

I would sell the lens, since I have better alternatives in my kit, leaving me with a net price of $240 or $250. Is this a good idea? What alternatives are there that would be better?

Good luck with selling it. I asked my dealer how much he would give me for mine before I left the store and the answer was $20. I recently reorganized my kit by giving a couple of lenses to my son for his GX7 and selling my 35-100mm f/2.8 zoom. So now I have four small primes to use with either camera. I tested the 14-42mm to make sure it worked and it actually took some decent photos but it's larger than any of my four primes and even the mount is plastic.

Some of the pros to me are:

  • Excellent build quality with a metal body. 
  • Small enough to fit in a jacket pocket with one of my primes mounted (7.5mm f/3.5. 12mm f/2.0, 17mm f/1.8, 45mm f/1.8).
  • Uses same BLS-5 battery as my E-M10.
  • Same familiar menu system
  • Same RAW files that can be post-processes in OV3
  • Great for street photography because nobody pays attention to you with this camera.

Some of the cons for me.

  • No EVF. In my case I have to use my reading glasses to see the LCD so I bought a like-new used VF-4 from B&H Photo $179 so my actual cost is up to $554. For that price, I could have bought an E-M10, a GX7, or an E-M5 as a second camera.
  • The VF-4 or the included LM-1 flash make the EPL-5 or EPL-6 taller than the E-M10 and have to be carried separately to put the camera in a coat or jacket pocket.
  • The LCD becomes washed out and can be unusable in bright light. Including the EPL-5, I have owned six mirrorless cameras form four different manufacturers and in spite of any claims otherwise, their LCDs all suck in bright light.
  • Even though the monitor is a three-inch LCD, it is formatted to display a 16:9 aspect ratio. If you set the aspect ratio to 4:3 to match the sensor, you get a smaller image with a larger black vertical stripe on either side of the image. If you set the aspect ratio to 16:9, the LCD will be filled but any JPEGs will be cropped at 16:9. You still get the full 4:3 image in a RAW file but won't see it all until you edit the file.
  • The single command dial is a ring that surrounds the pad and it's easy to activate one of the pad buttons while trying to use the command dial.
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John McCormack
John McCormack Veteran Member • Posts: 7,111
Helen: Re: E-PL6 a good choice?. 3 Axis IS or NOT?

So, I guess Olympus is telling us a big fib with this on their website and their list of specifications?

Helen wrote:

the US Olympus site claims it has 3-axis IBIS (like the E-M10) but it doesn't - it is 2-axis, just like the E-PL5 - I know this for sure since I have an E-PL6.

Helen
Helen Veteran Member • Posts: 7,606
Re: Helen: Re: E-PL6 a good choice?. 3 Axis IS or NOT?

John McCormack wrote:

So, I guess Olympus is telling us a big fib with this on their website and their list of specifications?

Helen wrote:

the US Olympus site claims it has 3-axis IBIS (like the E-M10) but it doesn't - it is 2-axis, just like the E-PL5 - I know this for sure since I have an E-PL6.

Effectively, yes. I presume somebody in a marketing division made a mistake - their websites for other parts of the world get it right (at least the ones I've seen). Given that the E-PL6 is physically identical to the E-PL5 aside from the paintwork and some software features, and given that the E-PL6 elsewhere has always had 2-axis IBIS (it's easy to tell the two systems apart in the hand), it seems incredibly unlikely that they would have redesigned it to include 3-axis IBIS for the US only, while keeping the appearance and designation unchanged. It is of course the E-PL7 which has 3-axis IBIS.

Maybe someone who's bought one recently in the US could confirm? As we know, 2-axis IBIS has no constant hiss, no option to operate on half-pressing the shutter button, but grinds and chatters on a long exposure.

ristar Regular Member • Posts: 338
Re: E-PL6 a good choice?

Tony8232 wrote:

Yes to me that is an excellent idea. The EPL6 has a much better sensor the same as your EM10. Go for it..
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They have the same sensor. In fact, the E-PL6 was released before the E-M10 in Japan and was just released in North America.

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(unknown member) Veteran Member • Posts: 3,010
Re: E-PL6 a good choice?

ristar wrote:

Tony8232 wrote:

Yes to me that is an excellent idea. The EPL6 has a much better sensor the same as your EM10. Go for it..
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/90891174@N04/

They have the same sensor. In fact, the E-PL6 was released before the E-M10 in Japan and was just released in North America.

Agreed and at the price he is getting one at it's a huge bargain.

ristar Regular Member • Posts: 338
Re: E-PL6 a good choice?

Tony8232 wrote:

ristar wrote:

Tony8232 wrote:

Yes to me that is an excellent idea. The EPL6 has a much better sensor the same as your EM10. Go for it..
--
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90891174@N04/

They have the same sensor. In fact, the E-PL6 was released before the E-M10 in Japan and was just released in North America.

Agreed and at the price he is getting one at it's a huge bargain.

As noted in other posts in this thread, the E-PL6 only has 2-axis IBIS. If he does not mind that, then the E-PL6 is a good deal. I personally would not buy it as I find the 3-axis IBIS in the E-M10 to be vastly superior than the 2-axis IS in my E-PM1.

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OP Roger Wiseman Junior Member • Posts: 35
Re: E-PL6 a good choice?

Thanks everyone for your replies.  If money weren't a factor, I would buy an E-P5 or an E-PL7.  I have been using an E-P1 and used to have an E-PM1, so know the limitations of the 2 axis IBIS and can live with that.  I'm mainly looking forward to having the newer 16mp sensor, which I love in the EM10.

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