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The E-M5 II, IBIS, an electronic shutter and a Kookaburra

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cainn24 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,892
The E-M5 II, IBIS, an electronic shutter and a Kookaburra
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There's nothing remarkable about these shots. The composition is average, the lighting is challenging, the context is typical and the detail resolution is mediocre. I've seen plenty of much better captures of this native Australian bird. But what really blew my mind was just how many images I decided to keep that were shot at shutter speeds that were perilously low for the focal length I was using.

The following shots were all taken with the 75-300 II, handheld, utilising short strategic electronic shutter bursts in 10fps mode:

1/50s, 234mm

1/60s, 264mm

1/50s, 234mm

1/25s, 300mm

1/25s, 300mm

1/25s, 300mm

The last 3, which are probably my favourites, almost defy belief.  I'm no stranger to pushing the limits of handheld birding in low light, but the combination of IBIS and the electronic shutter has expanded the range of conditions in which I feel comfortable pushing my luck to remain at low ISOs to an extent that I wasn't expecting.

I'm impressed, and I'm ecstatic to finally be free of all this shutter shock nonsense.

Olympus E-M5 II Olympus M.Zuiko ED 75-300mm 1:4.8-6.7 II
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TN Args
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Re: The E-M5 II, IBIS, an electronic shutter and a Kookaburra

Thanks, yes, I like the shots, and the stability  The kooka has such a cheeky expression.

I was showing off the IS to a friend last weekend in a darkish home theatre room, and got a very steady shot with a 40mm (80 eq) lens at 0.4 seconds. That's 5 stops better than the handheld rule. With mechanical shutter and 0s antishock. Even surprised myself!

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David 247
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Re: The E-M5 II, IBIS, an electronic shutter and a Kookaburra

Well they look pretty good to me.  Challenging conditions yes, but I am seeing a lot of feather detail in these.   Nicely done overall.

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Oli4D Contributing Member • Posts: 530
Re: The E-M5 II, IBIS, an electronic shutter and a Kookaburra

Interesting, thanks for sharing!

Could you maybe explain why this works better with electronic shutter then lets say mechanical shutter with anti shutter shock setting?
I'm no expert... why is electronic shutter better in this case?

thanks a lot

Oliver

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TN Args
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Re: The E-M5 II, IBIS, an electronic shutter and a Kookaburra

Oli4D wrote:

Interesting, thanks for sharing!

Could you maybe explain why this works better with electronic shutter then lets say mechanical shutter with anti shutter shock setting?
I'm no expert... why is electronic shutter better in this case?

Slightly higher max fps speed

Complete absence of even slight shutter-induced vibration

Minimum delay after shutter button press to shutter actuation

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tt321
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Re: The E-M5 II, IBIS, an electronic shutter and a Kookaburra

TN Args wrote:

Oli4D wrote:

Interesting, thanks for sharing!

Could you maybe explain why this works better with electronic shutter then lets say mechanical shutter with anti shutter shock setting?
I'm no expert... why is electronic shutter better in this case?

Slightly higher max fps speed

Complete absence of even slight shutter-induced vibration

Yes. With the EFC, the second curtain is still mechanical which still needs to reset before you take the next shot. In high fps situations this could impact the next shot.

Totally mechanical movement-free needs still more care to insure, as aperture and focusing are mechanical movements. Shooting at max aperture and with MF would remove those two, leaving only hand motion which the IS should be competent enough to deal with.

Minimum delay after shutter button press to shutter actuation

Hen3ry
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And obviously you enjoy a good relationship with the Kookaburra

Good job, Cain. Those shutter speeds are kind of ridiculous; imagine them only a few years ago with no stabilization. Just unthinkable.

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boxerman Senior Member • Posts: 1,946
Long focal length stabilization

Long FL stabilization is most critical to me. Those once-in-a-lifetime safari shots are what I'm after. E-M5 with monopod was quite good, but still occasionally fell short. Seeing genuine 4 stops IS at long focal lengths warms my heart. I'm happy, too, to get low-light moderate FL stabilization. But it's not a life-altering experience.

Thanks much for this demonstration. My next big game hunting is next March. E-M1 II, if it's out, or I may have to "settle" for the E-M5 II. Now I know "settling" for E-M5 II would be just fine in this critical (for me) department.

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SteveOttwa Regular Member • Posts: 387
Re: The E-M5 II, IBIS, an electronic shutter and a Kookaburra

Those are great pictures...amazingly sharp, considering. The birds must be very still too.

Is that a gum tree the kookaburra is sitting in (they do seem merry).

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OP cainn24 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,892
Re: The E-M5 II, IBIS, an electronic shutter and a Kookaburra

tt321 wrote:

TN Args wrote:

Oli4D wrote:

Interesting, thanks for sharing!

Could you maybe explain why this works better with electronic shutter then lets say mechanical shutter with anti shutter shock setting?
I'm no expert... why is electronic shutter better in this case?

Slightly higher max fps speed

Complete absence of even slight shutter-induced vibration

Yes. With the EFC, the second curtain is still mechanical which still needs to reset before you take the next shot. In high fps situations this could impact the next shot.

I did some handheld tests when I first got my Mark II and noticed that at low shutter speeds my keeper rate was consistently higher when using the fully electronic shutter during a burst (as opposed to the EFCS) so that was the conclusion that I [tentatively] reached also.

OP cainn24 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,892
Re: The E-M5 II, IBIS, an electronic shutter and a Kookaburra

SteveOttwa wrote:

Those are great pictures...amazingly sharp, considering. The birds must be very still too.

Kookaburras do tend to be still when they're perched on a branch.  They are certainly not a fidgety bird.

Is that a gum tree the kookaburra is sitting in (they do seem merry).

At least 3 of those shots involved a gum tree, yes.  Not sure if they were that "old" though

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