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Who is happy with your new M3?

Started Apr 5, 2015 | Discussions
jackwelch Senior Member • Posts: 1,086
Re: Who is happy with your new M3?

Maxmolly7 wrote:

It does, with adapter and 100-400mm IS lens.

Which lens is this? Cost is also a consideration. All in the G3X was $450, that lens you quoted probably is EF? Maybe cost more than the whole G3X all together.

Maxmolly7
Maxmolly7 Senior Member • Posts: 1,480
Re: Who is happy with your new M3?

Yes, EF 100-400mm MK 1.

Don't forgett hat G3x can onlyshoot 1 raw per second.

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KEG
KEG Veteran Member • Posts: 4,908
Re: Who is happy with your new M3?

Maxmolly7 wrote:

I agree with KEG on the better built of the M3, but the M6 is the better camera in all aspects.

I can't disagree with this opinion.

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jackwelch Senior Member • Posts: 1,086
Re: Who is happy with your new M3?

Maxmolly7 wrote:

Yes, EF 100-400mm MK 1.

Don't forgett hat G3x can onlyshoot 1 raw per second.

Yes even jpegs only can do 5-6 burst, in comparison my fz300 can do double that. But it's not a deal breaker.

KoolKool Regular Member • Posts: 263
Re: Who is happy with your new M3?

KEG wrote:

Pros and Cons:

  • Cons
    • The worst DR of any of my Canon mirrorless cams
    • Lazy AF (but still usable for action)
    • No plug for wired remote
    • Slow startup time
  • Pros
    • Amazing colors, RP is close but not perfectly matching
      • My theory is that by switching to colder/neutral palette for lack of better words Canon was able to squeeze out more DR from the sensor
    • Uses the same battery as M6 and RP and thus being an usable legacy camera.
    • Superior construction compared to M6

Another Pros to mention

- Only M with CHDK in real development and quite usable at moment (not count M1 and M2 with magic latern)

I tried some intervalometer scripts, they worked, great for timelapse!

The cons of image quality can now be nicely improved by shooting RAW using DxO Photolab for processing. JPG shooting alone is always a disappointment to me personally

There is another terrible cons is video quality, heavy compressed Full HD.

The startup time is not that slow, it's okay.

And loudsy shutter.

The M3 overall is nice photographic tool.

Andy01 Veteran Member • Posts: 5,188
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Maxmolly7 wrote:

Yes, EF 100-400mm MK 1.

All good, except the M3 (at least the one I had) doesn't actually actually work well at all with the original EF 100-400L. It would AF - eventually - if you gave it enough time to hunt around - essentially unusable really.

I bought my M3 +18-55mm on a great deal (about 55% discount) in June 2016 before a safari trip to South Africa (as a backup camera for my then 70D. My daughter also bought one so that she had a "decent" camera (to replace her cheap compact).

I left the 100-400L on my 70D and used the M3 +18-55mm for closer subjects - it worked well. I loaned my daughter my 24-105L to put on her M3 (more zoom than 55mm) and it also worked well, but the 100-400L on M3 - not so much.

I got a great deal on a EF 100-400L ii with 10% discount and a 30% Canon cashback in 2017 IF I bought a Canon camera. So I bought the lens with a M5 + 18-150mm (still have it).

I found that the 100-400L ii worked much better (not flawlessly, but better) on the M3 and the original 100-400L worked well on the M5, so it was a M3 + 100-400L thing.

I sold the M3 + 18-55mm (my daughter still has hers) and the original 100-400L and still have the others.

The M3 was fairly well known for it's poor compatibility with certain EF lenses - the original 100-400L being one of them.

Don't forgett hat G3x can onlyshoot 1 raw per second.

From memory the M3 has about the same frame rate in reality. The spec says 4.2fps (with a maximum 5 shot RAW burst), but I found that when I was doing a 3 bracket burst it took a good 2 seconds to fire off the 3 shots.

Overall the M3 could produce some great images - if you could live with the slow AF, slow performance, lack of EVF etc.

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Maxmolly7
Maxmolly7 Senior Member • Posts: 1,480
Re: Who is happy with your new M3?

Colin, wasn't there a firmware upgrade for the AF issues of M3? I sold mine so I can't check.

I remember an update for the body and 1 for EF-S 55-250MM STM.

I had no issues with my 100-400mm Mk1.

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Sue Anne Rush
Sue Anne Rush Senior Member • Posts: 6,285
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Hello...

dnoh72 wrote:

Growing complaint on this forum, I want see if there anyone here really happy with your new M3. I got white M3, and I really happy with it. This is not a perfect camera and I am not here to say there's no issue. Yes, there's issue but these are something I can definitely live with.

I love my new camera and I can't wait to take it to my next vacation with me.

I have 2 'M' cameras - happy you like your new M3 camera.

Please upload your M3 pictures here.

Happy shooting.

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KEG
KEG Veteran Member • Posts: 4,908
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KoolKool wrote:

KEG wrote:

Pros and Cons:

  • Cons
    • The worst DR of any of my Canon mirrorless cams
    • Lazy AF (but still usable for action)
    • No plug for wired remote
    • Slow startup time
  • Pros
    • Amazing colors, RP is close but not perfectly matching
      • My theory is that by switching to colder/neutral palette for lack of better words Canon was able to squeeze out more DR from the sensor
    • Uses the same battery as M6 and RP and thus being an usable legacy camera.
    • Superior construction compared to M6

Another Pros to mention

- Only M with CHDK in real development and quite usable at moment (not count M1 and M2 with magic latern)

Nice, I have to try that.

I tried some intervalometer scripts, they worked, great for timelapse!

The cons of image quality can now be nicely improved by shooting RAW using DxO Photolab for processing. JPG shooting alone is always a disappointment to me personally

There is another terrible cons is video quality, heavy compressed Full HD.

The startup time is not that slow, it's okay.

And loudsy shutter.

The M3 overall is nice photographic tool.

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KEG

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nnowak Veteran Member • Posts: 9,072
Re: Who is happy with your new M3?

Andy01 wrote:

Maxmolly7 wrote:

Yes, EF 100-400mm MK 1.

All good, except the M3 (at least the one I had) doesn't actually actually work well at all with the original EF 100-400L. It would AF - eventually - if you gave it enough time to hunt around - essentially unusable really.

.....

The M3 was fairly well known for it's poor compatibility with certain EF lenses - the original 100-400L being one of them.

That was just one of the lenses that I found worked better on my original M than the M3.

Don't forgett hat G3x can onlyshoot 1 raw per second.

From memory the M3 has about the same frame rate in reality. The spec says 4.2fps (with a maximum 5 shot RAW burst), but I found that when I was doing a 3 bracket burst it took a good 2 seconds to fire off the 3 shots.

That was one of the unresolved firmware bugs in the M3.  Standard burst would work as advertised, but using bracketing introduced a one second delay between each image.

Overall the M3 could produce some great images - if you could live with the slow AF, slow performance, lack of EVF etc.

Out a camera JPEGs were a jarring departure from the original M and most other Canon cameras that preceded the M3.

Colin

nnowak Veteran Member • Posts: 9,072
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Maxmolly7 wrote:

Colin, wasn't there a firmware upgrade for the AF issues of M3? I sold mine so I can't check.

No.  There were other firmware bugs besides AF that also were never addressed.

I remember an update for the body and 1 for EF-S 55-250MM STM.

There were updates specifically for the 55-250 STM and EF-M 28mm macro.  The problems with previous EF lenses were never addressed.

I had no issues with my 100-400mm Mk1.

The problem was a bit situational.  If the lens started out somewhat close to being in focus, the M3 could focus reasonably well.  If the lens started out very far out of focus, the M3 would often just get lost and give up.  While the original M was slower in absolute terms, it was much more consistent and reliable.  Basically, a case of the tortoise and the hare.

copperswede Junior Member • Posts: 34
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There is nothing wrong with IQ of this camera but the AF is sluggish. The m6 mark 2 is much better.

KEG
KEG Veteran Member • Posts: 4,908
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copperswede wrote:

There is nothing wrong with IQ of this camera but the AF is sluggish. The m6 mark 2 is much better.

M6 mk I is also much faster as is M50 and kind of everything else also.

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KEG
KEG Veteran Member • Posts: 4,908
Re: Who is happy with your new M3?

KoolKool wrote:

KEG wrote:

Pros and Cons:

  • Cons
    • The worst DR of any of my Canon mirrorless cams
    • Lazy AF (but still usable for action)
    • No plug for wired remote
    • Slow startup time
  • Pros
    • Amazing colors, RP is close but not perfectly matching
      • My theory is that by switching to colder/neutral palette for lack of better words Canon was able to squeeze out more DR from the sensor
    • Uses the same battery as M6 and RP and thus being an usable legacy camera.
    • Superior construction compared to M6

Another Pros to mention

- Only M with CHDK in real development and quite usable at moment (not count M1 and M2 with magic latern)

I tried some intervalometer scripts, they worked, great for timelapse!

The cons of image quality can now be nicely improved by shooting RAW using DxO Photolab for processing. JPG shooting alone is always a disappointment to me personally

There is another terrible cons is video quality, heavy compressed Full HD.

My EOS R with ALL-I 4k is the first camera which I am actually happy with the videoframes from, they are just lovely.

The startup time is not that slow, it's okay.

And loudsy shutter.

The M3 overall is nice photographic tool.

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KEG

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