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E-PM2: Ojito Wilderness

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Klarno
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E-PM2: Ojito Wilderness
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All taken with Olympus E-PM2 and Sigma 19mm f/2.8. Ojito Wilderness, a highly vegetated area of mesas, hoodoos and badlands out past Bernalillo, NM, in the same San Juan Basin that encompasses the Rio Puerco, Chaco Canyon and the Bisti-De Na Zin wilderness.

As a primarily zoom shooter, if I want to get any mileage out of a prime I need to really cut myself down to just the one lens. Otherwise I end up juggling them around so much . This was an effort to finally get some mileage out of the 19mm--I like 35 equivalent that as a walkaround focal length, but for some reason I just hadn't gotten myself to take any good photographs with the Sigma primes. Probably because I usually take all my other lenses with me.

Life finds a way-- this is an actual ponderosa pine tree, a species with a specimen on the list of tallest trees in the world, growing out of a crack in an exposed rock outcrop

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Sabatia
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Re: E-PM2: Ojito Wilderness

Nice pics. I like the pine growing out of the rocks. Looks like a quiet remote place--my kind of place! Are there trails or do you just hoof it across country? Or perhaps your SUV is just out of the scene!

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junk1 Senior Member • Posts: 1,788
Re: E-PM2: Ojito Wilderness

Nice shots.  The PM2 tempts me.  It's hard to find real world info because it did not sell well.

I need a light camera to put on my R/C airplane (currently using an aging Fuji F20).  The GM1/GM5 have the super slow shutter limitation, otherwise they are ideal (their built in time-lapse mode is ideal).

How fast does the PM2 shoot images in raw mode (continuously)?  I only need around 1FPS (1 frame every 2 seconds with my Fuji has been pretty much ideal).  If I use a slow card, would that slow down the rate to 1 or 2FPS?

Modern camera shoot much faster than I need/want - That's why being able to set the frame rate via time-lapse mode (with an unlimited number of shots) would be handy.  I could add an external time-lapse timer tot he PM2, but that adds a few ounces.  Would prefer to simply hold the shutter down with rubber bands basically, and shoot in continuous mode, as I do now.

I'll definitely go with the 2oz Panasonic 14mm F2.5 lens...well, unless I get a GM1 with the almost-as-light 12-32mm lens.

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Re: E-PM2: Ojito Wilderness

These have a sharp, natural "being there" look to them that I enjoy. Looked especially good on my large screen monitor.

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Niche
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Good work!  I lived in Rio Rancho for twenty years and spent many, many hours hiking the area.  I must have taken hundreds of photos there trying to get the "defining" pic to express what it's like.  Never managed to get one I really thought was great.  Have to say you've done better than I did.  

I happen to be sitting in an RV park in Bernallio as I write this.  Maybe I'll take a day and try Ojita again.

I took this one of a local Ojita resident.  He didn't like having his pic taken.  Kind of grumpy, actually. 

Two Steps Back, 2004

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Klarno
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Re: E-PM2: Ojito Wilderness

junk1 wrote:

Nice shots. The PM2 tempts me. It's hard to find real world info because it did not sell well.

I need a light camera to put on my R/C airplane (currently using an aging Fuji F20). The GM1/GM5 have the super slow shutter limitation, otherwise they are ideal (their built in time-lapse mode is ideal).

The GM-series cameras can be set to full-time electronic shutter mode, allowing shutter speeds from bulb up to 1/16,000. This also completely does away with mechanical shutter wear. Its shutter mechanism, being electronic first curtain anyway, is immune to shutter shock (which I'd imagine could be a greater issue on a flying platform for the same reasons shutter shock is typically worse handheld than on tripod).

The limitation of the GM's electronic shutter is that you could see motion "jello" artifacts under certain circumstances (it takes 1/25 sec for the rolling electronic shutter to scan the entire sensor), and RAWs are limited to 10 bits in electronic shutter mode which enables by default at any shutter speed beyond 1/500 (10 bit RAW is a fourfold reduction in bit depth from a 12 bit RAW, but still four times better than 8 bit JPEG). I'm not keen on the GM series at all for my own use in landscape and in studio...but they seem like the most ideal MFT cameras for hobbyist aviation purposes (and far better for the otherwise shutter-destroying activity that is timelapse).

How fast does the PM2 shoot images in raw mode (continuously)? I only need around 1FPS (1 frame every 2 seconds with my Fuji has been pretty much ideal).

I'd say it will capture RAWs continuously to about 2 fps. I tried 3 fps and it slows down after about a minute of shooting, but at 2fps it went on til the card filled up. That's with an 8GB Sandisk Extreme Pro 95 MB/sec card (which I've measured at 72 MB/sec write speed using BlackMagic Disk Speed Test on my Mac mini's built in SD slot, which is UHS-1 compatible and hooked up to the computer's PCI bus). This implies that whatever limitation I ran into is in the camera's buffer.

If I use a slow card, would that slow down the rate to 1 or 2FPS?

Cheaping out on the card isn't a good idea for what you want to do. A class 10 card mandates a minimum of 10mb/sec write speed at all times, but otherwise published SD card specs are so fuzzy that you can't determine real-world performance short of testing it yourself. Class 10 wouldn't even be enough to manage 1fps from the E-PM2, whose RAWs average around 15mb. I also have Sony UHS-1 cards in the 40mb/sec class which meet that specification in read speed, but don't do any better than class 10 cards for write speed...so you have to be very careful what you get.

10 bit RAWs from the GM series should be smaller in terms of file size, but someone else would have to report on the exact file sizes produced by that camera. A 16.1 megapixel sensor that yields 12 bits per pixel would produce, uncompressed, 24.15 MB files; a 16 megapixel sensor that yields 10 bits per pixel would produce, uncompressed, 20 MB files. Assuming the same compression ratio leading to about 15mb average for the 12 bit, the 10 bit system should produce something like 12.4mb files...still too much for 1fps.

BlackMagic actually makes a piece of free software for Mac, called BlackMagic Disk Speed Test, which you can use to check read/write speeds for any volume, including an SD card. Similar software should also exist for Windows.

Modern camera shoot much faster than I need/want - That's why being able to set the frame rate via time-lapse mode (with an unlimited number of shots) would be handy. I could add an external time-lapse timer tot he PM2, but that adds a few ounces. Would prefer to simply hold the shutter down with rubber bands basically, and shoot in continuous mode, as I do now.

I'll definitely go with the 2oz Panasonic 14mm F2.5 lens...well, unless I get a GM1 with the almost-as-light 12-32mm lens.

The GM1 weighs about 2 oz less than the E-PM2, also.

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Hen3ry
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EXcellent set, klarno

That ponderosa growing out of the rock -- well seen and captured. As you say, life finds a way. Amazing, isn't it?

I have he sa,e problem with lenses. If you want to get the best value from a prime, you need just the prime -- but maybe with just one more lens.

I used to run the Panny 14 with the Oly 40-150 in my pocket on an E-PL3. Pretty useful combination.

The 35mm equiv is not quite wide enough for my taste.

I must admit I have now replaced the Panny 14 with the Panny 12-32. Naughty! The panny 45-150 is in my pocket.

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junk1 Senior Member • Posts: 1,788
Re: E-PM2: Ojito Wilderness

The idea of using a slow card (or buying a GM camera with timelapse mode) is because I want a much lower FPS (compared to holding down the shutter and shooting at full speed).

Not much changes in 1/2s, let alone 1/8th of a second (if it can truly shoot 8FPS).  I currently shot 1 image every 2 seconds, since that's simply how fast my old Fuji F20 shots continuously.  2s between images is pretty much the ideal speed - a bit faster would be OK, but over 1FPS would be "wasteful" and a hassle to review them all.

I like the idea of not wearing out the shutter, but the GM1/GM5's electronic shutter is likely way too slow.  As the plane moves forward, objects that are far away do not move far (in terms of the angle, or pixels) theoretically..but in reality the plane is bouncing around quite a bit in the turbulence/wind.

I've been using my Fuji F20 since 2007, and the shutter still works, and the PM2 costs under $200 now, almost new (ebay), so I'd get my money's worth out of it...

The PM2 seems to have a much faster mechanical shutter than the GM series.  With the delay option (or electronic first curtain?) and fast shutter speed, shutter shock should not be much of an issue.  I would use the 14mm F2.5 lens at F2.8 or F4.0 and base ISO (200?).  I think the resulting shutter speed would be at least 1/500s (I shoot during the day but sometimes near sunset).  I've noticed around 1/320s is borderline for getting sharp images.

It would be great to have 1/1000s shutter speeds, the increased dynamic range of m43, and wider angle lens.

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