New m4/3 gear released in last 33 months

John Brawley wrote:

Henry Richardson wrote:

I know that 3 years ago when I bought my Olympus E-M5 and a bunch of lenses there were some who expected that Olympus would be gone by now, m4/3 would be pretty much dead. It may still happen, but so far things for us customers are looking pretty good. Here is a list of m4/3 bodies that have come out since I bought my E-M5:

Don't forget Veydra primes

http://www.ducloslenses.com/collections/veydra-primes/products/mini-prime-set

And SLRMagic have released some new ones including a 10mm T2.1

http://www.slrmagic.co.uk

JB

Wow. the Veydra primes are sexy. I'm so glad I'm not a cinematographer right now.

Martin.au wrote:

trog100 wrote:

its a relative kind of slipping.. the competition is maybe improving at a faster rate.. M43 desperately needs a major sensor upgrade to stay in the game..

what was good enough fours year ago maybe isnt good enough now.. at the heart of it all is the sensor.. if that dosnt improve the rest of it becomes irrelevant

sorry i aint adding to the feel good factor .. but that is the way my thinking goes..

trog

So go buy something else.

If panny and oly continue to use the same sensor for 4-5 years, new customers (those not invested in m43) WILL buy something else assuming the competition hasn't stopped and have come out with newer advanced sensors. It's only logical.

It's pretty easy to understand.

If Sony's new A8000 (2 years from now) has a brand new 50mp sensor with much better DR that competes with today's FF and clean noise free ISO of 124000 while the new EM1 MK III has the same 16mp of now (now being 2016) 5 years ago...which do you think a new customer would get? What is the likelihood of them buying the Oly?

There is no choice. Panny and Oly MUST come out with a new sensor to compete.

Henry Richardson wrote:

On top of all the new stuff in the last 3 years Panasonic a few days ago announced two more lenses that weren't expected:

30mm f2.8 macro

42.5mm f1.7

The 30mm was either rumored to come out or Panny has mentioned they will come out (sorry, can't remember). Either way, it was rather expected. The 42.5 was a total surprise though.

peppermonkey wrote:

Martin.au wrote:

trog100 wrote:

its a relative kind of slipping.. the competition is maybe improving at a faster rate.. M43 desperately needs a major sensor upgrade to stay in the game..

what was good enough fours year ago maybe isnt good enough now.. at the heart of it all is the sensor.. if that dosnt improve the rest of it becomes irrelevant

sorry i aint adding to the feel good factor .. but that is the way my thinking goes..

trog

So go buy something else.

If panny and oly continue to use the same sensor for 4-5 years, new customers (those not invested in m43) WILL buy something else assuming the competition hasn't stopped and have come out with newer advanced sensors. It's only logical.

It is. Although it seems that sensors are not the biggest problems of camera manufacturers. Current cameras offer far superior sensors to smartphones, yet that is not enough to entice many new buyers.

If Sony's new A8000 (2 years from now) has a brand new 50mp sensor with much better DR that competes with today's FF and clean noise free ISO of 124000 while the new EM1 MK III has the same 16mp of now (now being 2016) 5 years ago...which do you think a new customer would get? What is the likelihood of them buying the Oly?

We all know this is not going to happen. That's just a hypothetical. The thing is, sensor upgrade cycle is 3 to 4 years. That is true for both mirrorless and DSLRs of today and yesterday. Which means that E-M1 successor next year will have a new sensor (unless Olympus rushes it to the market, witch I hope will not happen). We'll probably see new sensor from Panasonic next year as well.

But some people got into their heads that new sensors should come out every year, preaching that 3 year old sensor tech is garbage and proclaiming death of MFT on this basis. Only they failed to notice that by that measure, most of the ILC cameras on the market are in this garbage category, as are all the professional DSLRs, which are even more garbage, since their sensors are even older.

So lets not give in to this obsession.

There is no choice. Panny and Oly MUST come out with a new sensor to compete.

Yes, and that is exactly what will happen, as it happened in the past.

Astrotripper wrote:

his is not going to happen. That's just a hypothetical. The thing is, sensor upgrade cycle is 3 to 4 years. That is true for both mirrorless and DSLRs of today and yesterday. Which means that E-M1 successor next year will have a new sensor (unless Olympus rushes it to the market, witch I hope will not happen). We'll probably see new sensor from Panasonic next year as well.

But some people got into their heads that new sensors should come out every year, preaching that 3 year old sensor tech is garbage and proclaiming death of MFT on this basis. Only they failed to notice that by that measure, most of the ILC cameras on the market are in this garbage category, as are all the professional DSLRs, which are even more garbage, since their sensors are even older.

So lets not give in to this obsession.

There is no choice. Panny and Oly MUST come out with a new sensor to compete.

Yes, and that is exactly what will happen, as it happened in the past.

Finally some common sense on this issue. Manufacturers after all have to recoup their outlay and developing new image sensors cannot be cheap! We know for a fact that Panasonic and Fuji are researching at least two new sensor designs, as they have announced these initiatives. The current 16mp sensor is less than two years old (Panasonic GX7 was announced in August 2013). It supports high frame rates, electronic shutter and even 4K video and is still competitive. Do we expect every camera released to use a new sensor?

There will be a new MFT sensor at some point - if the rumours are correct it will be May this year.

Another one for the original list: Lumix G Vario 35-100mm f4-5.6

A high quality, very light and small zoom lens.

No question that m4/3's is thriving.

Mark

Ditto

+ DXO Optics Pro. Prime noise tech is a 2/3rds stop improvement for noise or JPEG/Lightroom RAWI. The dynamic range is still a half stop behind latest sensor, but I'm pretty pleased with the G6.

I was looking for the long telephotolenses from Kowa anounced in September 2010, but couldn't them find on the list

350 f/4, 500 f/5,6 and 850 f/9,6