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Warning: 16-50 PZ will not work on NX100

Started Feb 5, 2015 | Discussions
zipcode Regular Member • Posts: 312
Warning: 16-50 PZ will not work on NX100

So, the new compact zoom 16-50, 3.5-5.6 will not work on nx100 and probably nx10 as well.

You can't focus manually or otherwise, basically can't use it at all. And it never will.

Be warned.

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tecnoworld
tecnoworld Veteran Member • Posts: 7,232
Re: Warning: 16-50 PZ will not work on NX100
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I never tested on my nx100. This is a pity, considering that nx100+16-50+external evf could be really an outstanding combo for the money.

A tiny fw update would be enough, but I doubt samsung cares about a 4-5 years old camera.

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OP zipcode Regular Member • Posts: 312
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They obviously don't. Kinda shitty, is this normal practice? Do Canon or Nikon new lenses only work on brand new bodies only?

I wanted to upgrade one of these days but still... the 16-50 is not that expensive to be considered unreasonable to combo with a nx100 (costs around 140 euro used from nx1 kits).

Karl Gnter Wnsch Forum Pro • Posts: 11,408
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zipcode wrote:

They obviously don't. Kinda shitty, is this normal practice? Do Canon or Nikon new lenses only work on brand new bodies only?

Nope. New lenses like the 2014 Canon EF-S 10-18mm f/4.5-5.6 IS STM are working with cameras as far back as the 2003 Canon 300D (original Rebel) - you have to half press the shutter button to be able to focus manually because of the fly-by-wire nature of the STM but that's about the only caveat...

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Coldamus Senior Member • Posts: 2,281
Re: Warning: 16-50 PZ will not work on NX100

zipcode wrote:

So, the new compact zoom 16-50, 3.5-5.6 will not work on nx100 and probably nx10 as well.

You can't focus manually or otherwise, basically can't use it at all. And it never will.

Be warned.

I very much doubt the accuracy of that statement. Are you sure you dont have a faulty lens or camera?

For example, check this thread and in particular the posts by Viking79 towards the end of the thread: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/54022900

The thread was initially about use of the premium 16-50 S lens on older cameras but Viking79  confirmed that both the 16-50 S lens and the 16-50 PZ lens worked well on his NX11.  That was despite the fact that NX11 firmware has never been updated for those lenses.  He even provided sample shots with both lenses.  The NX11 and NX10 are functionally almost identical and the NX100 is very little different apart from shape and lack of a viewfinder.

If anyone else has the 16-50 PZ lens and an NX100 or NX10, please confirm.

tecnoworld
tecnoworld Veteran Member • Posts: 7,232
Re: Warning: 16-50 PZ will not work on NX100

I have both. I'll test asap.

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OP zipcode Regular Member • Posts: 312
Re: Warning: 16-50 PZ will not work on NX100

tecnoworld wrote:

I have both. I'll test asap.

Yes please. I sure hope it's not a bad copy...

viking79
viking79 Forum Pro • Posts: 14,157
Re: Warning: 16-50 PZ will not work on NX100

tecnoworld wrote:

I have both. I'll test asap.

The only thing I can think of is if the new updated firmware changed anything with the older cameras.  I can update the firmware of the 16-50mm and check again.

The lenses should focus fine, just lack certain features of the new bodies.

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OP zipcode Regular Member • Posts: 312
Re: Warning: 16-50 PZ will not work on NX100

Well, I upgraded to an nx300 (the nx500 will be rather high in price for at least 6 months).

And the PZ does indeed work on it.

The odd thing is that I tested again on nx100, and now it works. I really don't know how it happened. Maybe after being shaked from shipping it didn't want to work, it just stayed at minimum focus.

Can a mod please change the title so it won't lead to confusion? The lens does work properly, OIS included (which is very good btw, at least 2 stops). Sorry.

Coldamus Senior Member • Posts: 2,281
Re: It works after all.

zipcode wrote:

Well, I upgraded to an nx300 (the nx500 will be rather high in price for at least 6 months).

And the PZ does indeed work on it.

The odd thing is that I tested again on nx100, and now it works. I really don't know how it happened. Maybe after being shaked from shipping it didn't want to work, it just stayed at minimum focus.

Can a mod please change the title so it won't lead to confusion? The lens does work properly, OIS included (which is very good btw, at least 2 stops). Sorry.

That is good news. Thanks for getting back to us with the result.

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