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The Olympus 12mm F/2

Started Feb 1, 2015 | User reviews
M43 Dude
OP M43 Dude Senior Member • Posts: 1,464
Re: The Olympus 12mm F/2

Thank you.

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Roderick Balle
Roderick Balle Senior Member • Posts: 1,828
Re: The Olympus 12mm F/2

Anders W wrote:

There are two native primes that are faster and as wide or wider:

SLR Magic 12/1.6

CV 10.5/0.95

If you count the Samyang 12/2 (an APS-C lens with MFT mount, like the Sigma MFT lenses), then there are three that are at least as fast and at least as wide. If rumors are right, there is additionally an Oly 8/1.8 fisheye in the works.

Also the Kowa 8mm 2.8

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M43 Dude
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Re: The Olympus 12mm F/2

Roderick Balle wrote:

Anders W wrote:

There are two native primes that are faster and as wide or wider:

SLR Magic 12/1.6

CV 10.5/0.95

If you count the Samyang 12/2 (an APS-C lens with MFT mount, like the Sigma MFT lenses), then there are three that are at least as fast and at least as wide. If rumors are right, there is additionally an Oly 8/1.8 fisheye in the works.

Also the Kowa 8mm 2.8

Yes but this was not my point, none of these lenses are auto focus, the auto focus mechanism on this lens is one of its best features. Open it up and take some trick parlor shots as people walk by you in the street without even noticing you took their photo.

On a street level shooting from waist height you can go about completely unnoticed and with a waist level finder on a camera like an Olympus PEN or Panasonic GX7 you can go about your business completely unnoticed.

The AF speed on the Olympus 12 F/2 is simply one of the fastest out of any of the lenses in the system and while you might think its not important on a lens this wide, its assistance will surprise you as soon as you shoot with this lens.

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dennis tennis Veteran Member • Posts: 3,783
Re: The Olympus 12mm F/2

Neurad1 wrote:

M43 Dude wrote:

What does one say when they see this lens? I often see and here various platitudes from people who have either never owned or never shot with this lens, most of them negative, trivialised, biased and in many cases completely nonrepresentational to any sort of reality about this lens. The lens gets down trodden based on something they read once in a web review of the lens and never seems to get a second look in. The Olympus 12mm F/2 is one of the most harshly critiqued and criticized lenses but is also the most misunderstood and underrated lenses in the Micro Four Thirds lineup. If one lens receives more negative comments in the Micro Four Thirds lens lineup its this one and for the majority of cases the disparagement is entirely misdirected.

From the moment you lay your hands on it, you know there is something about the lens, the way that its built a solid lens built in a metal casing and with low dispersing glass, offering durability that is unmatched in any of the Micro Four Thirds primes. The lens feels solid despite its diminutive size.

The 12mm F/2 gains an advantage from its design using DSA, aspherical, ED, and Super HR elements and it features aan perture range from f/2-22, currently the widest and fastest native prime for Micro Four Thirds. The lens also features silent focusing for movie photography even when tracking moving targets and focus down to 20mm. It features 11 lens elements in 8 groups and a 7 blade aperture ring.

This lens introduces a dual fly by wire focus system with a snap back focus ring, snapped forward in manual focus mode the focus will continue to move freely and continuously, snapped back you get a lock to lock focus ring from 20mm to infinity.

If there is one true fault with this lens its that the Olympus LH-48 metal lens hood is an accessory for this lens and it does not come with the kit, why Olympus continues to follow this trend is beyond reasoning with, however it seems to be part of their practice to charge customers at each opportunity.

Mounting the lens on your camera you will notice that your camera becomes somewhat heavy, I would say this lens adds approximately 150grams of weight to the front of your camera which can feel like quite a lot as compared to some of the kit lenses and particularly on a larger camera like an OM-D or G/GH series camera from Panasonic. This becomes a significant issue where your main aim may be primarily to reduce weight, the lens does not achieve this, but for its build quality its something that I'm willing to put to one side.

Open the lens up and take it outdoors it becomes a perfect accompaniment for the landscape photographer, it's noticeably fast to expose and fast in action making low light photography a breeze even at wide apertures but also at narrow ones. It's easy to get trigger happy and keep clicking photos.

The lens is just as useful indoors and in low light where some assume it may be too wide, it's just right, when using its perspective you can gain some dramatic effects indoors simply and straight forward out of the camera with minimal processing.

This lens from me receives a 4.5 simply on the basis that it doesn't actually come with a hood, and because of its price this is a serious complaint for a lens of this price, but if you need a 24mm lens with no compromises of being part of a zoom there really isn't a lot of other options on the market that are either as fast, silent or that actually auto focus. You can spend more on the Olympus 12-40 F2.8 you can even look at the Panasonic 7-14 F/4 but its not as fast either. If you need a fast lens in this lens width then this lens is hard to overlook.

I like my copy of this lens but find I rarely use it since I got the 12-40 2.8...This post inspires me to try to use it more.

Canon has the 24 f1.4 primie , 2 stops faster than the 24-70 f2.8 zoom.  That is enough of a difference to justify getting both and the high price of the prime.

On the telephoto size, the 45mm f1.8 is reasonably prices, similar to the 85 f1.8 in the FF world.  the 75 f1.8 is aapremium lens but it is 150 f1.8 so "faster" than the FF equivalent primes 135 f2.  In this context, the 12mm f2 price is rellatively high.

If Oly makes a 12 f1.4 Pro lens I would definitely consider it.  I would also consider a 10mm f1.8 Pro,

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Roderick Balle
Roderick Balle Senior Member • Posts: 1,828
Re: The Olympus 12mm F/2

M43 Dude wrote:


The AF speed on the Olympus 12 F/2 is simply one of the fastest out of any of the lenses in the system and while you might think its not important on a lens this wide, its assistance will surprise you as soon as you shoot with this lens.

One big difference between the SLR Magic and the Oly 12, is the very close focusing distance of the Magic - it behaves like a macro. Set it to infinity, and you can just walk around and shoot, without focusing being an issue. I think you're overstating the flare issue as well. Sure it's there in some situations, but it hasn't limited me whatsoever.

Other big pluses of the Magic, is the extra speed - a full stop faster, very nice all metal/glass build,  the very smooth clickless aperture ring located on the front of the barrel, which is invaluable when shooting video - something I do a lot. Less distortion than the Oly, which in video, where correction is more problematic, is also a big plus.

I also love the way this lens renders colours - difficult to quantify, but colours just look great. At almost half the price of the Oly, I think it's the bargain wide angle prime for m43, and a lens that I think you'd enjoy.

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JohnLock Senior Member • Posts: 1,524
Re: The Olympus 12mm F/2

Now a "stale", but still interesting thread.  I've owned two m43 12mm f2 lenses, and I totally agree in that they are beautifully made-- and a favorite focal length of mine.  Originally I remember the 12mm f2 was supposed to be extremely flare resistant?  Not so in my experience as both the ones I had flared badly when the sun was in or near the frame.  I sold them both and am much happier with the Oly 12-40 or Pana 12-35.  I admit to preferring good zooms to primes even at the expense of greater size and weight.  The only primes I've kept are the Pana 8mm fish-eye, Oly 60mm macro, and Oly 17mm f1.8-- had several others and sold them too.

Your first seascape photo is beautiful.  Nice work.

JL

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Johnny The Greek Regular Member • Posts: 251
Re: I'd say that is completely true

tkbslc wrote:

Marty4650 wrote:

I think the lens is judged harshly because of it's incredibly high price point. People expect a lot for $800, and being merely "very good" may not be enough.

If this was a $500 lens, then it would get 5 star ratings all around. And then it becomes a "must have" lens for M4/3 shooters.

Even when accounting for the better build quality, it just isn't a good value once you realize it costs TWICE as much as a 25mm f/1.8 lens. And that lens comes with a hood. Not a $45 option....

I bet most people would be happier with build like the 17, 25, 45 and a $500 price tag.

I guess there is the 14mm f2.5 for us cheapskates, though...

Yes there is; and in fact I just sold my 14mm in order to offset the cost of this lens, which I picked up for about $550 on Ebay.  I'm anxious to mess around with it.

My main reasons for buying it (beyond curiosity) were to get the extra 2mm of width, and to have a much better low-light lens for night shots.  I found the 14mm useful in the extreme but wanted to see if this lens was as bad as some say or as great as others do.  If I hate it, I know I can sell it for what I paid for it.

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