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NX1 rolling shutter and samsung 16-50 S lens

Started Dec 20, 2014 | Discussions
ApKodiak New Member • Posts: 12
NX1 rolling shutter and samsung 16-50 S lens
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I had a Nx1 for about a week before someone stole it out of my car. I only had a chance to use it with a adapter and nikon lenses. I really enjoyed the camera and thought the video was great. I did struggle with the rolling shutter while hand holding the camera in 4k mode. I'm wondering if the image stabilization on the samsung 16-50 S would help with the rolling shutter while hand holding? I'd appreciate any feedback form anyone with any experience with this combo. It's an expensive lens and not as fast as my sigma 18-35 which looks great on nx1.  Thanks

Samsung 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 power zoom Samsung NX1
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Raw Jaw
Raw Jaw Senior Member • Posts: 2,662
Re: NX1 rolling shutter and samsung 16-50 S lens
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ApKodiak wrote:

I had a Nx1 for about a week before someone stole it out of my car. I only had a chance to use it with a adapter and nikon lenses. I really enjoyed the camera and thought the video was great. I did struggle with the rolling shutter while hand holding the camera in 4k mode. I'm wondering if the image stabilization on the samsung 16-50 S would help with the rolling shutter while hand holding? I'd appreciate any feedback form anyone with any experience with this combo. It's an expensive lens and not as fast as my sigma 18-35 which looks great on nx1. Thanks

Excuse me, but with the highest respect, I must ask you:

Are you a Troll? Are you a Paid troll?

Sincerely.

mdavidp Senior Member • Posts: 2,436
Re: NX1 rolling shutter and samsung 16-50 S lens

I have the NX1.

What rolling shutter?

I tried to replicate this phenomenon  and could Not.

Why are people trying to discredit this camera.

I know why.

It is that good.

Mike P

Harleysoftail
Harleysoftail Contributing Member • Posts: 506
Re: NX1 rolling shutter and samsung 16-50 S lens

It is not nice to have anything stolen.....but obviously the thief saw the value in the NX1 camera.

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Raw Jaw
Raw Jaw Senior Member • Posts: 2,662
Re: NX1 rolling shutter and samsung 16-50 S lens

Harleysoftail wrote:

It is not nice to have anything stolen.....but obviously the thief saw the value in the NX1 camera.

Not quite. The thief likely saw a quick sale for a $10 bag of drugs.

Very tragic, but no excuses for theft should be suggested.

Harleysoftail
Harleysoftail Contributing Member • Posts: 506
Re: NX1 rolling shutter and samsung 16-50 S lens

Raw Jaw wrote:

Harleysoftail wrote:

It is not nice to have anything stolen.....but obviously the thief saw the value in the NX1 camera.

Not quite. The thief likely saw a quick sale for a $10 bag of drugs.

Very tragic, but no excuses for theft should be suggested.

Sorry....it was a feeble attempt at a little humor.

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OP ApKodiak New Member • Posts: 12
Re: NX1 rolling shutter and samsung 16-50 S lens
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ApKodiak wrote:

I had a Nx1 for about a week before someone stole it out of my car. I only had a chance to use it with a adapter and nikon lenses. I really enjoyed the camera and thought the video was great. I did struggle with the rolling shutter while hand holding the camera in 4k mode. I'm wondering if the image stabilization on the samsung 16-50 S would help with the rolling shutter while hand holding? I'd appreciate any feedback form anyone with any experience with this combo. It's an expensive lens and not as fast as my sigma 18-35 which looks great on nx1. Thanks

Excuse me, but with the highest respect, I must ask you:

Are you a Troll? Are you a Paid troll?

Sincerely.

Excuse me? Calling me a troll for asking a legit question? The rolling shutter in the nx1 in 4k is very poor! It's to point it's not useable hand holding with any adapted lenses, at least for my standards. It's a totally legit question to ask if a $1,100 lens from samsung helps while hand holding and shooting 4k. I go to remote areas and I don't always have my rig or tripod with me. My question still stands, does the image stabilization in the samsung 16-50 s help with the rolling shutter. If anyone with actual experience with both camera and lens i would be thank if you could share your experiences. I think overall the nx1 is a great camera. I think the still side alone is pretty amazing, it's just with adapted lenses the rolling shutter is to much for my tastes.

Robert L Jones Regular Member • Posts: 366
Re: NX1 rolling shutter and samsung 16-50 S lens

I don't see how stabilization would help with rolling shutter.

Rolling shutter is due to panning movement of a camera with respect to the subject, as a function of the speed of data readout from the chip. If your panning is slowed, you can reduce the effect. If panning is slowed to the point of being stationary, then there is no observable rolling shutter effect.

Stabilization reduces jitter, but would not affect readout speed from the chip during panning. Unless there is global shutter for instantaneous readout of all data, rolling shutter will always be present, but may not be bothersome. Again, it is as an interaction between the speed of panning and the speed of data retrieval from the chip (the faster the data is read out, the faster can be your panning).

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Tugela Contributing Member • Posts: 755
Re: NX1 rolling shutter and samsung 16-50 S lens

ApKodiak wrote:

ApKodiak wrote:

I had a Nx1 for about a week before someone stole it out of my car. I only had a chance to use it with a adapter and nikon lenses. I really enjoyed the camera and thought the video was great. I did struggle with the rolling shutter while hand holding the camera in 4k mode. I'm wondering if the image stabilization on the samsung 16-50 S would help with the rolling shutter while hand holding? I'd appreciate any feedback form anyone with any experience with this combo. It's an expensive lens and not as fast as my sigma 18-35 which looks great on nx1. Thanks

Excuse me, but with the highest respect, I must ask you:

Are you a Troll? Are you a Paid troll?

Sincerely.

Excuse me? Calling me a troll for asking a legit question? The rolling shutter in the nx1 in 4k is very poor! It's to point it's not useable hand holding with any adapted lenses, at least for my standards. It's a totally legit question to ask if a $1,100 lens from samsung helps while hand holding and shooting 4k. I go to remote areas and I don't always have my rig or tripod with me. My question still stands, does the image stabilization in the samsung 16-50 s help with the rolling shutter. If anyone with actual experience with both camera and lens i would be thank if you could share your experiences. I think overall the nx1 is a great camera. I think the still side alone is pretty amazing, it's just with adapted lenses the rolling shutter is to much for my tastes.

I think the question was more along the lines of if you understand what rolling shutter actually is?

It shouldn't be noticeable unless large areas of your image are undergoing very rapid motion, in which case it is more of an issue with your shooting technique.

Note that lens image stabilization itself will introduce distortions to the image if you have large depth of field (as a result of motion of the lens elements). You won't see it in stills, but it can be unsettling in video. It is more noticeable on a 4K image because of the superior resolution. This is why it is usually best to shoot video from a tripod or some other sort of external stabilization method.

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