So any 24-105 STM reviews yet?

This lens does not seem to get much attention. I think it is a pretty interesting lens, especially as a standard zoom with good video performance.

Howard wrote:

This lens does not seem to get much attention. I think it is a pretty interesting lens, especially as a standard zoom with good video performance.

Not really sure what Canon was thinking with this lens. The 24-105L is already available ~$600 BNIB as part of a kit.
In addition the 24-105L has the following advantages:
1. Parfocal (focus doesn't change when zooming)
2. L lens (resale value will probably be higher)
3. Weather/dust sealing.
4. Actual full-time manual focusing.
5. 8 bladed aperture (vs 7)

To continue the previous post, whearas the 24-105 STM has the following advantages over the 24-105L;

-Lower weight

-Lower price point already and will presumably go lower still after the launch phase

-More effective image stabiliser

-Hopefully won'tt suffer from the internal cable breakage problem that has apparently caused repeated failures in some 24-105L lenses.  This has been discussed at length on this forum and others.

So take your pick

It'll be really interesting to read some comparative reviews and see how they compare optically!

I would truly like to have a review.

Will probably buy it over the EF-S 18-135 STM kit with 7DII as I will be able to use it with my 6D...

I won't be doing landscape or UWA with the 7D II, I keep the 6D for this purpose... I sold my 24-105 L because I wasn't satisfied with overall result. On the 7D II I'll use the 24-105 STM for video+walkaround and as a walk around on the 6D when I won't be using the 16-35 f4 IS or primes I have.

So this len make sense for me.

JP

Blackbeard Snap wrote:

To continue the previous post, whearas the 24-105 STM has the following advantages over the 24-105L;

-Lower weight

-Lower price point already and will presumably go lower still after the launch phase

-More effective image stabiliser

-Hopefully won'tt suffer from the internal cable breakage problem that has apparently caused repeated failures in some 24-105L lenses. This has been discussed at length on this forum and others.

You forgot to mention shorter MFD (40cm vs 45cm). Yes, 5cm does matter. We need reviews to judge optical quality, but MTF chart looks somewhat improved (not drastically, though).

Right now, it doesn't look like it will be better enough to make 24-105L owners (such as myself) dump their existing lenses, but it does look like it could be a superior option for new full frame buyers who don't need weather sealing or f/4 at tele end.

Blackbeard Snap wrote:

To continue the previous post, whearas the 24-105 STM has the following advantages over the 24-105L;

-Lower weight

-Lower price point already and will presumably go lower still after the launch phase

-More effective image stabiliser

-Hopefully won'tt suffer from the internal cable breakage problem that has apparently caused repeated failures in some 24-105L lenses. This has been discussed at length on this forum and others.

So take your pick

It'll be really interesting to read some comparative reviews and see how they compare optically!

Sigma 24-105/4 OS Art. Mid point in price, superior  optics, already reviewed.

rrccad wrote:

hocheung20 wrote:

Howard wrote:

This lens does not seem to get much attention. I think it is a pretty interesting lens, especially as a standard zoom with good video performance.

Not really sure what Canon was thinking with this lens. The 24-105L is already available ~$600 BNIB as part of a kit.

perhaps stop there an think about it .. canon sells this lens for 1000 retail, and is taking 400 off of it to bundle it into a kit.

maybe they don't want to do that? and have a cheap kit option?

not sure what you're thinking about if you couldn't dot the i's on that one.

canon needs a cheaper full frame kit option. this is it.

I'm not sure that Canon doesn't want to apply discounts to kit bundles, as they always seems to price kit bundles at a few hundred dollars less than the body and lens bought separately--from 5D3/24-70F4L all the way down to the lowliest Rebels. I'd expect the 24-105STM to be priced at ~$400 range when bundled.

That actually brings into question Canon's future plans for full frame bodies--is there going to be an even cheaper alternative to 6D to complement this lens? The 6D/24-105L kit currently retails for about $2000 new. I'm not sure that chopping a mere $200 off that number will increase unit sales all that much more, but if they can reduce the package price to $1500, it may be significant enough of a difference to bring in a whole new set of demand. It would require a new, lower-end body than the 6D, however.

I wouldn't be personally interested in such a body since I already have a 6D, but it is an intriguing thought.

quiquae wrote:.

I'm not sure that Canon doesn't want to apply discounts to kit bundles, as they always seems to price kit bundles at a few hundred dollars less than the body and lens bought separately--from 5D3/24-70F4L all the way down to the lowliest Rebels. I'd expect the 24-105STM to be priced at ~$400 range when bundled.

That actually brings into question Canon's future plans for full frame bodies--is there going to be an even cheaper alternative to 6D to complement this lens? The 6D/24-105L kit currently retails for about $2000 new. I'm not sure that chopping a mere $200 off that number will increase unit sales all that much more, but if they can reduce the package price to $1500, it may be significant enough of a difference to bring in a whole new set of demand. It would require a new, lower-end body than the 6D, however.

I wouldn't be personally interested in such a body since I already have a 6D, but it is an intriguing thought.

The Sony A7 is $1500 now. The D610 is about the same price as the 6D body but its kit with a 25-85/3.5-4.5 iVR s $2000 vs $2500 ($2300 with rebate) for the 6D with 24-105/4L IS. In reviews the 24-85 frequently matches or beats the Nikon 24-120/4 VR.

It would make sense for Canon to price the 6D with this lens for $2000, maybe with the 6D Mark II. Nikon also has a $2300 body/$3000 kit with their D750. Note, retail is $3600 but it seems to be on permanent sale for $3000.

In the Nikon line the D610 pretty clearly replaces the D300s which was a 7D competitor.

I foudn the video here on STM very interesting...changed my perspective: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3753659#forum-post-54751866

Blackbeard Snap wrote:

To continue the previous post, whearas the 24-105 STM has the following advantages over the 24-105L;

-Lower weight

-Lower price point already and will presumably go lower still after the launch phase

-More effective image stabiliser

-Hopefully won'tt suffer from the internal cable breakage problem that has apparently caused repeated failures in some 24-105L lenses. This has been discussed at length on this forum and others.

So take your pick

It'll be really interesting to read some comparative reviews and see how they compare optically!

What cable breakage issues are you referring to? I am very curious about this having just bought the 6D + 24-105 kit a week ago...

I would expect the 6DII to come with a dual-pixel sensor design like the 70D. This lens could be in support of that (it has STM).

The argument against this would be that the lens was been announced before a 6DII. Why wouldn't they release them together?

I've not analysed this to see if it's the same people complaining repeatedly, but the links below seem to indicate there is something amiss, sadly. On the other hand there in the same threads there are plenty of photographers who have used the 24-105L extensively and had no problems.

So you read into this what you like. I'd hope that if there was an inherent problem the Canon Engineers would have quietly made a running change to fix it, so later batch codes should be as reliable as we expect Canon lenses to be...

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52319723

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/54027179

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/40823431

The lens focuses almost silently. Very nice for movies. Still comparing stills to other lenses, but looks pretty good.

I've not analysed this to see if it's the same people complaining repeatedly, but the links below seem to indicate there is something amiss, sadly. On the other hand there in the same threads there are plenty of photographers who have used the 24-105L extensively and had no problems.

So you read into this what you like. I'd hope that if there was an inherent problem the Canon Engineers would have quietly made a running change to fix it, so later batch codes should be as reliable as we expect Canon lenses to be...

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52319723

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/54027179

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/40823431

Unfortunately I can confirm this issue... my 24-105L just began to show signs of this problem last Saturday while I was shooting my first basketball game with my newly acquired 6D

Camera locking up and lens making strange noises... looks like the diaphragm is dying...

brian1366 wrote:

I would expect the 6DII to come with a dual-pixel sensor design like the 70D. This lens could be in support of that (it has STM).

The argument against this would be that the lens was been announced before a 6DII. Why wouldn't they release them together?

I agree.

The STM will facilitate video focus and be a lower price point - and I expect the 6DII and 5DIV to have dual-pixel sensors.  I also expect the 6DII to be a lower price point than the current 6D.

As to why it came out now, before the cameras - possibly just because it could.  This might be the standard kit lens on the 5DIV as well, so Canon needs have to have the kit lens production up to full speed prior to launching any 6D or 5DIV replacement.