Panasonic 14-140 II OIS jitters when shooting video

AdamT wrote:

Yes some people are saying that it is better to shoot handheld without the OIS with that lens. Lets see if people are going to prefer Olympus for video because of its amazing IBIS.

I very much doubt it , Oly video is and always was very poor and IBIS makes such a racket that it`ll wreck the audio unless a long shotgun mic is used . I`d put the 1st generation GF1 (yes G*F*) over the latest Oly for video .. answer is not to use that lens on your panny - either get the lens which was designed for video first and foremost (the Mk1 14-140) , use a non-superzoom or shoot from a tripod

I am not getting this. So, should I go for the first generation 14-140 from Panasonic? Or something else for video?

The GX7 has no way to add shotgun mic or external accessory. So, audio is going to be poor anyway.

AdamT wrote:

if you MUST have a superzoom and do lots of Vid, get the Mk1 14-140 but use the Mk2 for stills as it`s significantly better optically ...

What might Panasonic think about that advice? Mk1 for video, mk2 for photos - what a joy to change lenses in hybrid photography.

Hi AdamT,

I appreciate your advise. However, I do not have the liberty to buy and carry multiple lenses. So, the option of buying Mk2 AND MK1 does not suit me at all.

Probably I should look at 35-100mm from Panasonic. The cheaper version is with f/4.0-5.6. Hopefully that one is good for video and stills and does not have any stabilization issues and no zoom mechanism noise issues?

While I have not read much about the 45-150, I found that the $1000 lens (35-100 f/2.8) also has OIS issues.

http://vimeo.com/111664303

Dr_Jon wrote:

New firmware came out for the 35-100 f2.8 recently to improve the OIS in video - I find it a good improvement.

I am glad that Panasonic did acknowledge this issue and solved it (almost?).

I hope they do so for the less expensive version as well 35-100, f3.5-5.6

From what I've read there's no fix for this, so what I'd do is switch to the older model which I can confirm doesn't suffer from the problem. It is a slight step down I know, being f4-5.8. But we're only talking half a stop so it's a minor sacrifice in the grand scheme of things. Plus you'd naturally switch to a faster lens for lower light situations whatever version you have.

It's just a shame their shorter 2.8 zoom lenses suffer from the issue too... I'm hoping by the time I decide to invest in a short zoom their fixed versions will be available which I heard they were making...

Rhodri

AdamT wrote:

From what I've read there's no fix for this, so what I'd do is switch to the older model which I can confirm doesn't suffer from the problem. It is a slight step down I know, being f4-5.8. But we're only talking half a stop so it's a minor sacrifice in the grand scheme of things.

there`s quite a significant drop in optical quality with the older lens and it`s quite a bit bigger and heavier too - choice depends on where your usage for a superzoom lies - for me, it`s 99% stills so it`s the Mk2 that wins out - for someone who does mostly Video, the Mk1 would be the choice

yeh, that makes sense. I wouldn't be surprised if there was barely any discernible difference in optical quality when in 1080p and after the compression images get with video.

I guess it's down to how much you use the gh3 for stills Vesku?

Rspearing57 wrote:

AdamT wrote:

From what I've read there's no fix for this, so what I'd do is switch to the older model which I can confirm doesn't suffer from the problem. It is a slight step down I know, being f4-5.8. But we're only talking half a stop so it's a minor sacrifice in the grand scheme of things.

there`s quite a significant drop in optical quality with the older lens and it`s quite a bit bigger and heavier too - choice depends on where your usage for a superzoom lies - for me, it`s 99% stills so it`s the Mk2 that wins out - for someone who does mostly Video, the Mk1 would be the choice

yeh, that makes sense. I wouldn't be surprised if there was barely any discernible difference in optical quality when in 1080p and after the compression images get with video.

I guess it's down to how much you use the gh3 for stills Vesku?

I usually carry my camera+lens (GH4) in a small bag and shoot both stills and video. I dont like changing lenses. If I am in hiking trip or in some event I use just one lens and I want versatile reach and compact package. In very dark I use 20mm f1.7 pancace and sometimes 100-300mm with sports and nature.

14-140mm f3.5 is usually enough bright indoors when using 4k video. Noise is very fine grain. I like f3.5 because it has more sharpness range than faster primes and of course stabilization is a problem with primes and focusing too.

AdamT wrote:

Defending stuff like this OIS issue and the even worse numerous issues with the Oly EM1 is ludicrous in the extreme - Purchase defenders are far worse than trolls on these forums and sadly DPR has far more than its fair share

Well said.

AdamT wrote:

Defending stuff like this OIS issue and the even worse numerous issues with the Oly EM1 is ludicrous in the extreme - Purchase defenders are far worse than trolls on these forums and sadly DPR has far more than its fair share

I think that the worst misinformation is that reviewers of many sites dont tell us about that issue which is so obvious that an experienced user can see it instantly when watching results.

I wonder if there is any solution for that video OIS jittering issue. Seems that Panasonic is not going to make any FW fix or maybe they are really slow.

I have found that shooting at full aperture gives a little less vibration. I also wonder if there is some sample variation and my lens is in the worst end.

Is there new users with this problem?