Panasonic 14-140 II OIS jitters when shooting video

Bobby Rue Goldberg wrote:

AdamT wrote:

...stop whining is aces in my book.

It`s the squeaky wheel which gets the grease ..... Shutting him up will only let Panasonic get away with it, the more people whine, the better chance of panny fixing it .... don't you want that ?

Keep Whining Vesku - it worked for the 35-100 !!

I find his views to be unbalanced. He personally uses Panasonic. He freely admits that he doesn't believe any other manufacturer competes for his purposes. Yet 90% or more of his posts are about how crappy Panasonic lenses are. He even used a generic thread about Panasonic lenses started by one of our mods to express his view that Panasonic produces crappy lenses.

I find this type of behavior obnoxious in all honesty. I have no problem with someone who takes a more balanced view, but this guy goes into every thread about the 35-100, 14-140 mark II, and every generic Panasonic lens thread and tries to convince people not to buy them.

He rarely, if ever, talks up Panasonic's good features, the way he talks down the things he doesn't like about a couple of their lenses. He routinely bumps threads that he started (such as this one) to keep them on the front page.

He's not simply going with the flow. He has a purposeful agenda to try to disrupt as many threads as he can.

And he personally had nothing to do with the 35-100 firmware update. That was handled by people who are generally more well-adjusted and who take a more balanced view. EVERY lens manufacturer has problems with a few of their lenses, but they don't all have a guy like Vesku around trying to convince people not to buy them at every turn.

From my perspective, Panasonic has quite a few lenses that are completely unmatched by any other manufacturer, and, as you've noted, the video jitter issue aside, I don't know of any other manufacturer that has a 10x zoom with the optical quality of the 14-140 mark II. This lens entirely unprecedented optically, and the overwhelming opinion we get on this lens is Vesku's slanted view of it's video jitter, which I don't believe is universal BTW. I think we deserve better than this, honestly.

This is a phenomenal lens, even with the video jitter present on some of them. Olympus has nothing like it, and neither does Sony or CaNikon.

Credit to Vesku for making the forum aware of this issue..

It surprises me that a poll hasn't been conducted to find out how widespread the issue is and how bothered people are about it.

There is no Firmware update for the Mk2  -  The 14-140 listed as H-VS014140 is the old Mk1

http://av.jpn.support.panasonic.com/support/global/cs/dsc/download/fts/index.html

Mark Taylor wrote:

Credit to Vesku for making the forum aware of this issue..

It surprises me that a poll hasn't been conducted to find out how widespread the issue is and how bothered people are about it.

Just registered to join the conversation and say I agree wholeheartedly.

I just recently purchased this lens and will take delivery of it later this week. I'll be sure to test it and report back but by the sounds of it I'm expecting it to display the cmos jitter when the Power OIS is engaged. I'll definitely make some noise over here (AUS) and let a few more people at Panasonic know about it. The squeaky wheel.....

Logic would dictate that a FW revision should be able to alleviate, or at least minimise the issue, as it did for the pro lens, BUT people need to make some noise. Panasonic are not likely to allocate resources to fixing this if they don't have to. So in that regards I say a big thank you to Vesku who is on a mission to make this known.

Vesku wrote:

Joe Foreman wrote:

Just registered to join the conversation and say I agree wholeheartedly.

I just recently purchased this lens and will take delivery of it later this week. I'll be sure to test it and report back but by the sounds of it I'm expecting it to display the cmos jitter when the Power OIS is engaged. I'll definitely make some noise over here (AUS) and let a few more people at Panasonic know about it. The squeaky wheel.....

Logic would dictate that a FW revision should be able to alleviate, or at least minimise the issue, as it did for the pro lens, BUT people need to make some noise. Panasonic are not likely to allocate resources to fixing this if they don't have to. So in that regards I say a big thank you to Vesku who is on a mission to make this known.

Thanks for support. I am trying to get people making noise about this jitter issue. Panasonic can fix that via FW update if they want.

Here is one more depressing example of that Panasonic 14-140mm f3.5-5.6 OIS jitter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S82ff3rKKzI

Hey just a quick update. I received my lens today and within the first 5 minutes confirmed that the CMOS jitter was present and VERY obvious during video recording with the POWER OIS on at both 14mm and 140mm.

I could see in on the viewfinder of my GX7 and even more clearly on a 27" iMac screen. It's looks horrible and makes the vision look "cheap". In my samples I also clearly saw shutter-shock using the manual shutter under 1/500. E-shutter images looked very nice.

A couple of things I also quickly tested:

- Video record with e-shutter active (not sure this makes any diff) = CMOS jitter present.

- Ex Tele Conv whilst video recording = CMOS jitter present.

- Video recorded without Power OIS = no jitter

I also quickly tested a few image stabilisation methods with the tools I had and I can tell you both FCPX in-built stabiliser and After Effects Warp Stabiliser do NOT eliminate the jitters. The image still appears "non-solid". I guess its Prodad Mercalli v4 or bust...

This is looking more an more like a widespread problem. I can post samples but its so obvious that many of the previous samples posted here illustrate the problem clearly already.

Yes some people are saying that it is better to shoot handheld without the OIS with that lens. Lets see if people are going to prefer Olympus for video because of its amazing IBIS.

I very much doubt it , Oly video is and always was very poor and IBIS makes such a racket that it`ll wreck the audio unless a long shotgun mic is used . I`d put the 1st generation GF1 (yes G*F*) over the latest Oly for video .. answer is not to use that lens on your panny - either get the lens which was designed for video first and foremost (the Mk1 14-140) , use a non-superzoom or shoot from a tripod