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Samsung 16-50mm f/2-2.8 S Reviewed

Started Sep 24, 2014 | Discussions
jennyrae Senior Member • Posts: 2,690
Re: Samsung 16-50mm f/2-2.8 S Reviewed

it is really up to you what your priorities lie. if you are considering the NX1, then your option is to buy the S lens. if your priority is to buy the cheaper Art lens, then your option is to buy or use a body that is compatible with it. I bought the Sigma Arts (not all) for my SD1M.

although I have to agree that I would like some Sigma lens fully supported on the NX mount to have a cheaper or other alternative. although that would depend on Sigma rather than Samsung.

viking79
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Re: Samsung 16-50mm f/2-2.8 S Reviewed

Ian Leach wrote:

Hi viking79, thanks for the review.

As you may remember I'm the everything sharp scenic guy and I have a couple of suggestions concerning the rooftops test shots, hope you don't mind.

Firstly, the jump from 16mm to 30mm focal length is a bit large. 24mm (FF35mm) is a classic focal length and would fit neatly between the two above. It gives you wide enough and is often an improvement at the edges of the widest focal length of a zoom.

Secondly, you can clearly see the field curvature issue in the top corners of the rooftop test shots (I looked at the f5.6 ones). However I noticed that the bottom corners were quite sharp. You may have needed to focus a little further into the distance to get the top corners looking better. This would steal from Peter to pay Paul but if you want the best overall sharpness this sometimes works. On some of my old primes I give up some center quality to improve the edges.

To tell the truth I consider myself lucky that I shoot mostly scenic photos at f5.6 - f8 as it means buying such expensive glass is often not useful. I think the 20-50mm may turn out to still be the best lens for that kind of shot. I also don't need the extras of the NX1. This all means that I can get what I want from the NX1000 and the 20-50mm for a couple a hundred pounds, quite a saving.

Thanks Ian

I added some of the shots from 20mm I took at the same time and hadn't uploaded. They are at the end of the gallery:

http://viking79.zenfolio.com/p82401163

Should be on page 2 or something, last 5 shots.

Eric

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Ian Leach Senior Member • Posts: 1,475
Re: Samsung 16-50mm f/2-2.8 S Reviewed

viking79 wrote:

Ian Leach wrote:

Hi viking79, thanks for the review.

As you may remember I'm the everything sharp scenic guy and I have a couple of suggestions concerning the rooftops test shots, hope you don't mind.

Firstly, the jump from 16mm to 30mm focal length is a bit large. 24mm (FF35mm) is a classic focal length and would fit neatly between the two above. It gives you wide enough and is often an improvement at the edges of the widest focal length of a zoom.

Secondly, you can clearly see the field curvature issue in the top corners of the rooftop test shots (I looked at the f5.6 ones). However I noticed that the bottom corners were quite sharp. You may have needed to focus a little further into the distance to get the top corners looking better. This would steal from Peter to pay Paul but if you want the best overall sharpness this sometimes works. On some of my old primes I give up some center quality to improve the edges.

To tell the truth I consider myself lucky that I shoot mostly scenic photos at f5.6 - f8 as it means buying such expensive glass is often not useful. I think the 20-50mm may turn out to still be the best lens for that kind of shot. I also don't need the extras of the NX1. This all means that I can get what I want from the NX1000 and the 20-50mm for a couple a hundred pounds, quite a saving.

Thanks Ian

I added some of the shots from 20mm I took at the same time and hadn't uploaded. They are at the end of the gallery:

http://viking79.zenfolio.com/p82401163

Should be on page 2 or something, last 5 shots.

Eric

Thanks Eric, I think if you are a corner geek like me this lens is probably best reserved for portrait and object photography rather than scenic shots. I don't think it is a big deal because I've seen so many expensive lenses struggle in this area. The designers know that people are generally buying such glass for weddings and low light capability and they put all their efforts into making the lens look good at maximum aperture. For scenic photography I'll stick with my 30mm and 20-50mm. It is a pity Samsung don't do a AF 24mm prime, that would suit me fine.

Thanks again Ian

GetaGrip
GetaGrip Regular Member • Posts: 283
Re: Samsung 16-50mm f/2-2.8 S Reviewed

Ian Leach wrote:

It is a pity Samsung don't do a AF 24mm prime, that would suit me fine.

Thanks again Ian

There's a rumor for that!

http://photorumors.com/2014/09/23/samsung-nx-lens-and-camera-rumored-roadmap-for-2015/

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Ian Leach Senior Member • Posts: 1,475
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GetaGrip wrote:

Ian Leach wrote:

It is a pity Samsung don't do a AF 24mm prime, that would suit me fine.

Thanks again Ian

There's a rumor for that!

http://photorumors.com/2014/09/23/samsung-nx-lens-and-camera-rumored-roadmap-for-2015/

Thanks for the info. It does worry me that it is an f1.4 as this often means they concentrate on center quality wide open and not corner/edge quality at f5.6. I have found this with many lenses and to me it makes no sense. A 24mm lens is mostly going to be used for scenic photography and not bokeh portraits. The problem is that everyone is bokeh mad now days and lens manufactures are just going with the flow.

arbuz Senior Member • Posts: 2,247
Re: Samsung 16-50mm f/2-2.8 S Reviewed

Ian Leach wrote:

GetaGrip wrote:

Ian Leach wrote:

It is a pity Samsung don't do a AF 24mm prime, that would suit me fine.

Thanks again Ian

There's a rumor for that!

http://photorumors.com/2014/09/23/samsung-nx-lens-and-camera-rumored-roadmap-for-2015/

Thanks for the info. It does worry me that it is an f1.4 as this often means they concentrate on center quality wide open and not corner/edge quality at f5.6. I have found this with many lenses and to me it makes no sense. A 24mm lens is mostly going to be used for scenic photography

street photo. corners are rarely important in it. I'd like to have good corners anyway.

and not bokeh portraits. The problem is that everyone is bokeh mad now days and lens manufactures are just going with the flow.

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Ian Leach Senior Member • Posts: 1,475
Re: Samsung 16-50mm f/2-2.8 S Reviewed

oh yeah, I forgot about street portraits, When I do street it is scenic where the buildings etc are as important as the people so I'm still at f5.6+.

jennyrae Senior Member • Posts: 2,690
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from pictures I've seen with NX S 16-50, corners are ok/good but not best. at 16mm, good corner at f4-f5.6. 24mm is good at f4, 35mm at f4-f5.6, 50mm at f8-f11.

kitlenses like 18-55, 20-50 and PZ 16-50 perform better because they are made and corrected for overall performance, especially corners at expense of speed and light. I think biggest consideration of S 16-50 lens is it's higher acutance or noticeable contrast level compared to the kit lenses. I hope Eric make test for lens contrast also.

do not  know but maybe BSI might be able to improve corner performance of S lens. maybe S lens is built for BSI  NX1?

ttbek Veteran Member • Posts: 4,869
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jennyrae wrote:

from pictures I've seen with NX S 16-50, corners are ok/good but not best. at 16mm, good corner at f4-f5.6. 24mm is good at f4, 35mm at f4-f5.6, 50mm at f8-f11.

kitlenses like 18-55, 20-50 and PZ 16-50 perform better because they are made and corrected for overall performance, especially corners at expense of speed and light. I think biggest consideration of S 16-50 lens is it's higher acutance or noticeable contrast level compared to the kit lenses. I hope Eric make test for lens contrast also.

do not know but maybe BSI might be able to improve corner performance of S lens. maybe S lens is built for BSI NX1?

Hmm, true I think, corner performance may be improved.

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Re: Thanks for the review

Thank you for the interesting lens size comparison & lens review.

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