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STM lenses and older EOS bodies

Started Aug 31, 2014 | Questions
GreenPig Regular Member • Posts: 292
STM lenses and older EOS bodies

Do the STM lenses work on the EOS 350D?

Is there any reason why they would not work?

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Rexgig0
Rexgig0 Veteran Member • Posts: 7,399
Re: STM lenses and older EOS bodies

My 40mm 2.8 STM functions normally on 5D and 1D Mark II N cameras, which were both introduced in 2005. I see no reason that STM lenses should not function on the earliest EOS cameras, from the 1980s.

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Mark B.
Mark B. Forum Pro • Posts: 29,756
Re: STM lenses and older EOS bodies

Rexgig0 wrote:

My 40mm 2.8 STM functions normally on 5D and 1D Mark II N cameras, which were both introduced in 2005. I see no reason that STM lenses should not function on the earliest EOS cameras, from the 1980s.

If they are EF-S lenses then they will not mount on film cameras, which are EF only - same as current FF DSLR bodies from Canon.

Mark

Rexgig0
Rexgig0 Veteran Member • Posts: 7,399
Re: STM lenses and older EOS bodies

Mark B. wrote:

Rexgig0 wrote:

My 40mm 2.8 STM functions normally on 5D and 1D Mark II N cameras, which were both introduced in 2005. I see no reason that STM lenses should not function on the earliest EOS cameras, from the 1980s.

If they are EF-S lenses then they will not mount on film cameras, which are EF only - same as current FF DSLR bodies from Canon.

Mark

Quite true. I failed to consider that part of the equation. (... need caffeine, before replying!) STM, alone, is not a limitation, within the EOS system, but EF-S does limit one's camera compatibility.

I will edit my above reply, to add a correction, if I am still within the time limitation. (Edit: It was too late to edit my first post.)

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quiquae Senior Member • Posts: 2,265
Re: STM lenses and older EOS bodies

GreenPig wrote:

Do the STM lenses work on the EOS 350D?

Is there any reason why they would not work?

STM lenses will work on the 350D.

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OP GreenPig Regular Member • Posts: 292
Re: STM lenses and older EOS bodies

quiquae wrote:

GreenPig wrote:

Do the STM lenses work on the EOS 350D?

Is there any reason why they would not work?

STM lenses will work on the 350D.

Thanks - I was just making sure that any new communications protocol would be ok. Typically these things are backward compatible.

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totleytom Contributing Member • Posts: 564
Re: STM lenses and older EOS bodies

GreenPig wrote:

Thanks - I was just making sure that any new communications protocol would be ok. Typically these things are backward compatible.

I'm not sure there is a new protocol. That was always touted as one of the great advantages of the EOS system, right from the start in 1987: the camera would issue a high-level instruction, e.g. 'change focus to a nearer focus point' or 'close the aperture diaphragm', and it would be the lens which would convert that into specific instructions appropriate to the technology in the lens. We've had lenses with micro-motors (e.g. as in the 50mm f1.8), several variants of ultra-sonic motors, and now STM lenses, and (subject to the EF/EF-S/EF-M differences) they all just work on whatever body.

Canon got it right 27 years ago, and we're still seeing the benefits.

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quiquae Senior Member • Posts: 2,265
Re: STM lenses and older EOS bodies

totleytom wrote:

I'm not sure there is a new protocol. That was always touted as one of the great advantages of the EOS system, right from the start in 1987: the camera would issue a high-level instruction, e.g. 'change focus to a nearer focus point' or 'close the aperture diaphragm', and it would be the lens which would convert that into specific instructions appropriate to the technology in the lens. We've had lenses with micro-motors (e.g. as in the 50mm f1.8), several variants of ultra-sonic motors, and now STM lenses, and (subject to the EF/EF-S/EF-M differences) they all just work on whatever body.

Well, the STM lenses do have one backwards-incompatible wrinkle: continuous AF when shooting video works only on recent APS-C cameras (650D, 700D, 100D, 70D). I did not bother to mention this before because the 350D doesn't shoot video at all. 

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msowsun
msowsun Contributing Member • Posts: 740
Re: STM lenses and older EOS bodies

quiquae wrote:

totleytom wrote:

I'm not sure there is a new protocol. That was always touted as one of the great advantages of the EOS system, right from the start in 1987: the camera would issue a high-level instruction, e.g. 'change focus to a nearer focus point' or 'close the aperture diaphragm', and it would be the lens which would convert that into specific instructions appropriate to the technology in the lens. We've had lenses with micro-motors (e.g. as in the 50mm f1.8), several variants of ultra-sonic motors, and now STM lenses, and (subject to the EF/EF-S/EF-M differences) they all just work on whatever body.

Well, the STM lenses do have one backwards-incompatible wrinkle: continuous AF when shooting video works only on recent APS-C cameras (650D, 700D, 100D, 70D). I did not bother to mention this before because the 350D doesn't shoot video at all.

Just to add.....

STM lenses are "optimized" for Continuous AF in that they have smoother and generally silent AF BUT.... Continuous AF during video is a function of the camera body and has NOTHING to do with the lens.

You don't need STM to do Continuous AF, and older non-STM lenses will still do Continuous AF when mounted on the appropriate body. They will just be noisy and jumpy.

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