Another impetous question. Help me before I get kicked out. What camera do I want?

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frascati Regular Member • Posts: 115
Another impetous question. Help me before I get kicked out. What camera do I want?

I've been posting on the Samsung EX2F. It hits all of my needs but there is too much worrisome criticism out there regarding its JPEG rendition and lack of firmware remedy. It seems to be too great an Achilles's Heel on this model to invest 350 dollars in.

For the sake of this forum it's fairly easy for me to describe my wants in a fixed lens point and shoot camera.

350 +/- a bit  dollars.

At least an aps-c sensor. Image quality is paramount.

Fixed lens or "system" is not a disqualifier. But I do not intend to invest in lenses beyond the kit lens supplied with a 4/3, asp-c, or 1" in the near future.   Body only with pancake lens would be optimal but a rare (non existent?) at this price point?

I don't care, at all,  about wifi or other connectivity. I don't care about zoom range.

I don't care about weight, ergonomics, or looks.

This should be easier.   Seems almost as if the clamber for bells/whistles has overtaken this category of camera and forced manufacturers to sacrifice other qualities to satisfy too may multi-demands at once.

Looks?  Weight?  C'mon, relative to the size of the current crop of compact digitals they could be made of solid lead.   The reviewers might be incensed in the mad dash to compare charts. But I, and I'd guess most of us, could care less if any camera weighed another full .lb as long as it was well balanced and other quality was not sacrificed in the pursuit of feather weight.

Anyway.   After all.  Anything jump to anyone's attention here?   I'm pessimistic since I've spent many, many hours in review of this category.    But there seem to be SO many models of camera that exist between the primarily reviewed models that I might have missed something really obvious.

DaveOl
DaveOl Veteran Member • Posts: 3,249
Re: Another impetous question. Help me before I get kicked out. What camera do I want?

Someone told me that if you go to the B&Hphoto site that you can sort cameras by sensor size. I haven't tried it yet.

The Canon EOS-M? comes to mind because it is fairly inexpensive for an interchangeable aps-c camera.

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Dennis Forum Pro • Posts: 18,078
Re: Another impetous question. Help me before I get kicked out. What camera do I want?

frascati wrote:

350 +/- a bit dollars.

At least an aps-c sensor. Image quality is paramount.

This should be easier.

The EX2F does not have an APS-C sensor; not even close. The RX100 has a larger sensor, as do a couple of Fuji models. There are a number of premium or prosumer digicams that have a 1/1.7" sensor like the EX2F. So are you looking for APS-C or are you looking for something as good as the EX2F ?

Seems almost as if the clamber for bells/whistles has overtaken this category of camera

Which category of camera ? Are you sorting by price ?

I don't see any great compromise of quality for bells & whistles in the premium compact market. Those camera just don't sell for under $350.

I can't recommend anything ... for under $350, you're going to be restricted to end-of-life models. But I don't know if you really want APS-C or not.

EDIT: Saw your other post about camera pricing. I think that what happens with models like the EX2F and others is that towards their end of life, you'll see great deals when retailers need to clean out stock. Then they sell out (or return them or whatever they do) and after that, they're only available from a handful of warehouse dealers that post them on Amazon for higher prices, hoping to snag someone who simply wants one badly enough to pay the price. Search for the EX2F and it's sold out most places; Amazon has "1 in stock" at $349 through "BESTDEALTECH" and then available through other retailers at higher prices.

Try watching this site if you're intent on getting a closeout deal:
http://cameradeals.1001noisycameras.com/

Mahmoud Mousef Senior Member • Posts: 2,604
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crashpc Veteran Member • Posts: 6,697
Re: Another impetous question. Help me before I get kicked out. What camera do I want?

I must agree on EOS M + 22 mm lens or 18-55 lens (zoom, IS, but not really that WOW) or Olympus E-PM2 in similar combo. Those cams can output stellar (technical quality) images for its price and size.

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PK24X36NOW Senior Member • Posts: 1,881
Re: Another impetous question. Help me before I get kicked out. What camera do I want?

frascati wrote:

I've been posting on the Samsung EX2F. It hits all of my needs but there is too much worrisome criticism out there regarding its JPEG rendition and lack of firmware remedy. It seems to be too great an Achilles's Heel on this model to invest 350 dollars in.

For the sake of this forum it's fairly easy for me to describe my wants in a fixed lens point and shoot camera.

350 +/- a bit dollars.

At least an aps-c sensor. Image quality is paramount.

Fixed lens or "system" is not a disqualifier. But I do not intend to invest in lenses beyond the kit lens supplied with a 4/3, asp-c, or 1" in the near future. Body only with pancake lens would be optimal but a rare (non existent?) at this price point?

I don't care, at all, about wifi or other connectivity. I don't care about zoom range.

I don't care about weight, ergonomics, or looks.

This should be easier. Seems almost as if the clamber for bells/whistles has overtaken this category of camera and forced manufacturers to sacrifice other qualities to satisfy too may multi-demands at once.

Looks? Weight? C'mon, relative to the size of the current crop of compact digitals they could be made of solid lead. The reviewers might be incensed in the mad dash to compare charts. But I, and I'd guess most of us, could care less if any camera weighed another full .lb as long as it was well balanced and other quality was not sacrificed in the pursuit of feather weight.

Anyway. After all. Anything jump to anyone's attention here? I'm pessimistic since I've spent many, many hours in review of this category. But there seem to be SO many models of camera that exist between the primarily reviewed models that I might have missed something really obvious.

http://classic.keh.com/camera/Nikon-Digital-Camera-Outfits/1/sku-DN019991179360?r=FE

D3100 + 18-55 f3.5-5.6 Kit lens EX+ condition $342.00

14.2MP APS-C sensor

Whoops the pants off that Samsung POS you were considering:

http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM

With your budget there's no way you should be shopping new cameras. You can get MUCH more for your money with used equipment.

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