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Not quite satisfied with E-PM2

Started Aug 10, 2014 | Discussions
MinAZ
MinAZ Veteran Member • Posts: 5,712
Not quite satisfied with E-PM2

I've been using the Olympus E-PM2 as my primary travel/casual camera for several months. I like the size/weight of the E-PM2 combined with it's decent autofocus and image quality. I've spent a fair bit on purchasing MFT lenses, but refrained from getting the top-of-the-line glass.

I have come to the realization however, that I am just not quite satisfied with the camera for some reason. I'm not sure what it is. The whole point of getting the camera was that it had a good combination of light weight, good image quality, IS, and the same sensor as the OM-D series without paying the OM-D price.

But in the end, I feel that there is something missing from the experience when I shoot with this camera. I wish I could explain it better, but today, I took an old film camera out (cost me $50 plus a cheap lens) and I just found everything "felt" better. Maybe it is the way the camera fit in my hands, the large optical viewfinder (I did not purchase the viewfinder accessory for the E-PM2 yet), or the layout of the menu system. Ironically, I am actually beginning to feel maybe the camera is a bit too small! That sounds insane considering the reason I bought it in the first place was its compact size. Perhaps I could trade up for the OM-D series, but of course that would mean shelling out at least another $500 (minus what I get for the E-PM2 used, not much!).

I haven't tried getting the electronic viewfinder (or grip, if one exists). I would consider doing that, but for a bit more, I would be able to get an OM-D (-5 or -10, used).

Or I could just keep using it and live with the awkwardness. It still takes good pictures. I feel that the the limitations are not with the camera but rather my awkwardness with it.

Has anyone used both the E-PM2 and an OM-D (-5/10) and can comment on both cameras with regards to ergonomics? Also besides the obvious differences in viewfinder, grip, size, and dials/knobs, are there any other usability differences between the E-PM2 and OM-D (i.e. menu system, ease-of-use, etc...)? I know that the image quality is going to be the same since they use the exact same sensor/processor and of course the same lens.

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traveler_101 Senior Member • Posts: 2,203
Re: Not quite satisfied with E-PM2

MinAZ wrote:

I've been using the Olympus E-PM2 as my primary travel/casual camera for several months. I like the size/weight of the E-PM2 combined with it's decent autofocus and image quality. I've spent a fair bit on purchasing MFT lenses, but refrained from getting the top-of-the-line glass.

I have come to the realization however, that I am just not quite satisfied with the camera for some reason. I'm not sure what it is. The whole point of getting the camera was that it had a good combination of light weight, good image quality, IS, and the same sensor as the OM-D series without paying the OM-D price.

But in the end, I feel that there is something missing from the experience when I shoot with this camera. I wish I could explain it better, but today, I took an old film camera out (cost me $50 plus a cheap lens) and I just found everything "felt" better. Maybe it is the way the camera fit in my hands, the large optical viewfinder (I did not purchase the viewfinder accessory for the E-PM2 yet), or the layout of the menu system. Ironically, I am actually beginning to feel maybe the camera is a bit too small! That sounds insane considering the reason I bought it in the first place was its compact size. Perhaps I could trade up for the OM-D series, but of course that would mean shelling out at least another $500 (minus what I get for the E-PM2 used, not much!).

I haven't tried getting the electronic viewfinder (or grip, if one exists). I would consider doing that, but for a bit more, I would be able to get an OM-D (-5 or -10, used).

Or I could just keep using it and live with the awkwardness. It still takes good pictures. I feel that the the limitations are not with the camera but rather my awkwardness with it.

Has anyone used both the E-PM2 and an OM-D (-5/10) and can comment on both cameras with regards to ergonomics? Also besides the obvious differences in viewfinder, grip, size, and dials/knobs, are there any other usability differences between the E-PM2 and OM-D (i.e. menu system, ease-of-use, etc...)? I know that the image quality is going to be the same since they use the exact same sensor/processor and of course the same lens.

I sympathize with the feeling. I am happiest shooting the E-PM2 with the 14/2.5 on it; part of it is that the lens feels right on the camera (i.e. doesnt drag the camera forward), part of it is the feeling of being free to move the camera about into many unusual angles. Fun to experiment with then. It works ok with the VF-2 but I tend to avoid it for some reason--thought I|d use it more. Recently bought the 25/1.8 -- nice lens and usable with the E-PM2 but a little front heavy. The 40-150 . . . again, I like the lens and it is usale on the E-PM2, but is a little awkward with the small camera.

You cant compare digital to film; no way. there's nothing like classic flm cameras. I shoot a leica IIIf much of the time, but digital has some advantages besids the obvious one of convenience.

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veroman Veteran Member • Posts: 4,904
Re: Not quite satisfied with E-PM2

"Bonding" with any particular camera is important, desirable, highly personal and often difficult.  Not everyone can easily handle a small camera like the E-PM2, just as not everyone can comfortably handle a large DSLR.

I bought my E-PM2 about 6 months ago.  I was very impressed with its image quality.  It's an extremely powerful camera in a very small package.

Three months later I purchased an E-P5 for its superior build and added features.  I've not shot with my E-PM2 since.  I "bonded" with my E-P5 in a way that's simply not possible with the E-PM2.  The E-PM2 now serves as my backup camera when I travel or as a second camera with long focal length lens attached.  The IQ from both of these cameras is nearly identical if not ACTUALLY identical.

I would suggest you visit your local Olympus retailer and handle the E-5.  It might be the camera you had hoped your E-PM2 would be.

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rb dwn Senior Member • Posts: 1,057
Re: Not quite satisfied with E-PM2
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I have an e-pm2 (as well as the e-m1).

I use it exclusively with the vf2 and panasonic 20mm.  I find that to be a very flexible combination that produces results on a par with the e-m1.

To me, the vf2 is what makes the package (I understand the vf4 is better still).  It doesn't add too much bulk (whole thing still fits in a small case) and gives me a connection to the shot that I just don't get with the rear lcd.

The e-pm2 has been criticised for the limited array of external controls.  That's definitely the case, but (as you've probably discovered) it has a surprising amount of the functionality of the e-m1 when you know where to look. Once you're on top of the button presses needed to access/change settings, that can all be done without taking your eye away from the viewfinder.

I'd try and get hold of a vf2 or vf4 before abandoning the e-pm2.

halievski Contributing Member • Posts: 633
E-PM2 is a little king

i have both e-pm2 and e-m1..  e-pm2 holds its own, but you definitely need vf-2 or vf-4, better vf-4 viewfinder, then this little marvel becomes a little king of its own... Big deal is proper metering and adjusting EV on fly - just keep your eye on viewfinder and move the wheel till you see the picture you like: not under not overexposed - just right, nice and crisp - enjoy..

regards

Alexsfo Senior Member • Posts: 2,362
Re: Not quite satisfied with E-PM2

I have E-M10 and E-PM2. It's a perfect combo cause they share same battery. E-M10 is definitely more enjoyable. It has no shutter shock (EFC) and superb IBIS. E-M10 is nice with a pancake lens or Panasonic OIS lens (e.g. 12-32mm).

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Matthew W Regular Member • Posts: 215
Re: Not quite satisfied with E-PM2

Totally understand what you're getting at. Used to have an E-M5, then I tried between an E-P5 and an E-PM2.

I really liked the E-P5 better due to the extra features (tilting LCD, 5-axis IBIS, etc), but ultimately went with the smaller E-PM2 with the 14-42 EZ pancake lens combo along with the automatic lens cap.

Ultimately, I needed a camera that I could literally take anywhere and wouldn't have an excuse to leave home and the E-PM2 fit the bill. But I still like the OMD and E-P5 better, if that makes any sense. The nice thing about the E-PM2 is that all I have to do is turn it on and it's ready to go. No worrying about taking off the lens cap, basically just leave it on Aperture mode, and being able to zoom is nice (which is why I stayed away from pancake primes). Plus it's small and light enough to fit large pocket without being much of a burden.

But, I'd just try all the other cameras you might have an interest in and either return/sell whatever you decide you don't need. It's the only way to know for sure.

amalric
amalric Forum Pro • Posts: 10,839
Re: Not quite satisfied with E-PM2
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I have both the PM2 and the E-M5 and like both for different reasons. The former is my go anywhere in town even if I am not planning to shoot.

The second is for dedicated shots. Having the same IQ, colour signature, and SCP gives consistency to all the output. 2 pancakes for the PM2, Sigmas and larger lenses for the E-M5 - very complementary.

Dr Hal Senior Member • Posts: 2,186
It is probably the menu system

I had the OMD and was just never quite comfortable with the camera.  I had a lot invested in m43 lenses and decided to try the GX7 and am now really happy.  The menu system is just much more user friendly.  If you do not want to spend the money on a expensive EVF, try the Clearviewer and then maybe you will be happier.

Hal

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