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Best lens combo for baby shots at hospital

Started Aug 4, 2014 | Questions
OP KN13 Forum Member • Posts: 53
Re: Best lens combo for baby shots at hospital

Thanks! I'd love a 24-70 but I don't have the lens and my zoom that covers that range is F4 and I'm presuming I need a faster lens. The 70-200 is a beast but I just can't get over how well it shoots and I love the idea of video. It's technically "not allowed" in the hospital but I know people do it and it would be after delivery so there'll be fewer nurses around. My one issue is that with mostly primes it could be a lot of switching and/or foot zooming but that's the only way I can think of to get enough speed in lighting conditions I can't be sure of.

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OP KN13 Forum Member • Posts: 53
Re: Best lens combo for baby shots at hospital

Thanks! I look forward to my time off of work caring for all my girls (in addition to my wife and soon to arrive daughter we have a cat and a dog who are also my ladies -- definitely outnumbered).

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kevindar Veteran Member • Posts: 4,625
Re: Best lens combo for baby shots at hospital

24-105 would actually do fine with video, since you are shooting at 1/30 second (shoot in 24p) and has IS.  Take the 70-200 if its your only 2.8 zoom  Its a great lens  and you will use it from 70-135 2.8 a lot.  than take a wider prime.  again, I think 35 is ideal.  but 24 and 50 do fine too.  I am outnumbered too, so know what you mean (wife, two daughters, and our female cat)

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OP KN13 Forum Member • Posts: 53
Re: Best lens combo for baby shots at hospital

Since I upgraded to full frame the 70-200 is my only 2.8 zoom. I do miss my 17-55 from time to time.

I could swap out the 40 2.8 for the 24 2.8 IS but I figure that the 50 is so close to the 40 and having IS might be nice on a wide shot for group pictures with the three of us and even some grandparents.

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jitteringjr Veteran Member • Posts: 3,608
Short stay

Timbukto wrote:

Jonathan Brady wrote:

I agree with everything you wrote except this...

Timbukto wrote:

IMO you are bringing too much gear, etc.

He'll be in one room for 2-3 days. IMO, it doesn't really matter how much gear he brings. He only has to lug it to and from the car (or have friends/family bring it for him). Otherwise, it's simply going to sit in a corner or be in use. To me, there's practically no effort involved and practically no downside to bringing it all either.

My daughter just turned 2 yesterday and I still remember carrying two bags full of all the stuff we'd need (and a bunch of stuff we ended up not needing) plus my camera bag with every piece of equipment I owned AND wheeling my wife down the hall in a wheelchair. His adrenalin will be PUMPING and he won't feel a bit of weight. My wife unfortunately ended up having to have a C section and even when they moved us out of the labor room into surgery, the nurses were really nice and just let us put our bags behind their counter in a corner until we were out of surgery and into the MBU (Mother Baby Unit). I went back, got everything, and came back to the room. No biggie. Upon departure, I leisurely took everything to the car and loaded it up, came back, got my wife, went to the final class before we left, had our baby girl's feet stamped, left my wife and baby behind, picked up the car and brought it to the front door of the hospital and loaded her and the baby into the car. At no time did I feel like I brought too much gear even though I didn't use most of it. It was there if I needed it and that made me VERY happy.

I have no input, I would not know enough about how a C-section differs from natural delivery. But natural delivery is not 2-3 days of recovery.

With our 3rd, we were at the hospital for 22 hours including labor.  The others were longer.  A lot depends on what time the baby comes along.

i would just bring the 24 and 50.

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Timbukto Veteran Member • Posts: 4,988
Re: Short stay

jitteringjr wrote:

Timbukto wrote:

Jonathan Brady wrote:

I agree with everything you wrote except this...

Timbukto wrote:

IMO you are bringing too much gear, etc.

He'll be in one room for 2-3 days. IMO, it doesn't really matter how much gear he brings. He only has to lug it to and from the car (or have friends/family bring it for him). Otherwise, it's simply going to sit in a corner or be in use. To me, there's practically no effort involved and practically no downside to bringing it all either.

My daughter just turned 2 yesterday and I still remember carrying two bags full of all the stuff we'd need (and a bunch of stuff we ended up not needing) plus my camera bag with every piece of equipment I owned AND wheeling my wife down the hall in a wheelchair. His adrenalin will be PUMPING and he won't feel a bit of weight. My wife unfortunately ended up having to have a C section and even when they moved us out of the labor room into surgery, the nurses were really nice and just let us put our bags behind their counter in a corner until we were out of surgery and into the MBU (Mother Baby Unit). I went back, got everything, and came back to the room. No biggie. Upon departure, I leisurely took everything to the car and loaded it up, came back, got my wife, went to the final class before we left, had our baby girl's feet stamped, left my wife and baby behind, picked up the car and brought it to the front door of the hospital and loaded her and the baby into the car. At no time did I feel like I brought too much gear even though I didn't use most of it. It was there if I needed it and that made me VERY happy.

I have no input, I would not know enough about how a C-section differs from natural delivery. But natural delivery is not 2-3 days of recovery.

With our 3rd, we were at the hospital for 22 hours including labor. The others were longer. A lot depends on what time the baby comes along.

i would just bring the 24 and 50.

Have no experience with that either...amazingly my wife has extremely short labors...the first was extremely short, the second was even shorter...the nurses were not even prepared for such a quick change in dilation, etc.  For us its almost, go to the hospital, and baby comes 3 hours later...

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Timbukto Veteran Member • Posts: 4,988
+1

Yes don't be a photo snob and disregard video.  Practice with your manual focusing...I find it pretty easy now to record low DOF video.  Being able to record sounds (even non-professional via built in mics), is great.

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OP KN13 Forum Member • Posts: 53
Re: +1

I'll do some practice work at home with the dog. She's got black fur so if I can master manual focus on that a baby will be a piece of cake.

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Jonathan Brady
Jonathan Brady Veteran Member • Posts: 6,725
Re: Short stay

Timbukto wrote:

jitteringjr wrote:

With our 3rd, we were at the hospital for 22 hours including labor. The others were longer. A lot depends on what time the baby comes along.

i would just bring the 24 and 50.

Have no experience with that either...amazingly my wife has extremely short labors...the first was extremely short, the second was even shorter...the nurses were not even prepared for such a quick change in dilation, etc. For us its almost, go to the hospital, and baby comes 3 hours later...

You're incredibly lucky. My wife started having contractions Tuesday night/Wednesday morning. We went to the hospital 3 times due to contractions that were buckling her knees and making her gasp. Twice we were turned away as she wasn't dilated. The third time she still wasn't dilated and the nurse dilated her manually and admitted her. That was Thursday night around 10pm. They gave her pitocin (wish they hadn't) to speed things up and she was fully dilated by 2pm Friday afternoon and started pushing. A little after 5 they said she was going to have to have a C section.

This whole time, the baby's head was pressing against her spine which, to put it into perspective, my wife couldn't feel the contractions because the pain from the babies head was too much. They gave her an epidural which worked and numbed both sides, but wasn't strong enough to stop the pain no matter how much they gave her. They said if they gave more, she wouldn't be able to push.

So again... consider yourself EXTREMELY lucky. Not only because your wife didn't have to have a C section, but because she didn't have to endure 2.5 days of pain (and no sleep) that you couldn't take away. My wife mentions to people all the time that so many women say that all the pain of childbirth is forgotten when your baby arrives (or shortly thereafter), she says NOT FOR HER. She says she still remembers every excruciating moment. You just don't forget that kind of pain, no matter how much magic and love follows it.

Rob Bernhard Senior Member • Posts: 1,872
What is more important? Your family or photos of your family?
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I understand that, in the chaos and stress of the pending birth, there's a great desire to sort of "lock down" things you think you can control.  Lenses and cameras are a great (if you will pardon the pun) focus of this nervous energy.

In my opinion, having been through this 3 times,  you should strive to keep it as simple as possible.  Bringing a ton of gear is a distraction.  It will not help your photography in the hospital. It will only serve to be more stuff to manage which will pull you away from your wife and your child.  You might not think it will, but it will.  I speak from experience here.

2 lenses, max.   The 50mm and something else.  Personally, I'd go with the 24mm prime, but the zoom offers many advantages.

When you arrive home, you will have plenty of time to setup and shoot with whatever lenses, lights, reflectors, etc. you want.  But the birth and those first few hours and day?  It is a special, special time.  It is not time to be swapping lenses and jumping around trying to get off NatGeo-worthy shots.  Really and truly.  It's time to focus on your wife's needs and the child's needs and indeed your own needs (aka sleep and nourishment, when you can get either).

Best of luck and welcome to parenthood.

kevindar
kevindar Veteran Member • Posts: 4,625
Re: +1

KN13 wrote:

I'll do some practice work at home with the dog. She's got black fur so if I can master manual focus on that a baby will be a piece of cake.

If you have not installed magic lantern yet, do so.  it really helps with focusing both with peaking and magnification.

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AdamWCohenVisuals Forum Member • Posts: 66
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For my son's birth 3.5 years ago, I brought the 5D mark2 and the 35 1.4L. That was it. Pulled it out just as he was emerging and then had a lot of fun capturing candids of the boy's first moments with momma and getting weighed, and then his first feeding, and his amazing feet. I put it away pretty quickly and held my son and forgot about the camera for a while.

You're on the right track with fast glass. And while you're wife is in the maternity area, remember that white sheets make for excellent reflectors. Pillows are great for redirecting light well. Flash is unnecessary.

Congrats and best of luck to you for a happy, healthy birthing experience!

And what the guy said above about taking pictures of yourself sleeping so you have them to refer to later... yeah... there's that.

After the birth, for the longest time I just used the 35 and my 100 macro. Thought is was a perfect combo.

You really cannot take too many pictures of the early life of your child. They are in a state of constant change, so you are not, in fact, taking thousands of pictures of "the same subject." Your taking dozens and hundreds of pictures of phases that are all too ephemeral.

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GregOhio New Member • Posts: 24
Re: Best lens combo for baby shots at hospital
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You're there for your wife and baby, not photography.  I'd take a minimal kit.  Personally, I'd take the G1X.

Otherwise take the 5D3 with the 24-105. Modern hospitals are reasonably well-lit.  The 5D3 does great at ISO 3200.  So, an F/4 IS lens should be fine.  Wide enough for groups.  Long enough for portraits.  IS.  Life is good.

My first thought was the 50/1.4, but without IS, that might leave you shooting wide-open with razor thin DOF.

Maybe shoot Raw, as the ambient color temp is likely all over the place.

Best wishes!

tooth_doc Junior Member • Posts: 26
Re: Best lens combo for baby shots at hospital
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Personally I would go with 50mm and 24mm. If you want to get closer pick up some cheaper extension tubes. If you bring a flash ONLY use it to bound light and I personally like using a Sto-fen diffuser because its small, cheap and reduces harsh shadows

I know you want to take a picture of every little detail of the arrival thus wanting to have every possible focal length but my thought is that you what to capture the emotion on faces and the environment at the time. When it comes to photographing your new baby girl in detail (eg pictures close to the face, feet, hands etc) you can do that hours/days after when you have some sleep and all the nurses/extend family leave you, your wife and baby allow.

In the past I have shown up to the hospital with 24-70mm f2.8, 70-200mm f2.8, 50m 1.4, 100mm f2.8 Macro, flashes etc. I found I was switching lenses rather than living in the moment. The next go around I looked at what lenses i used the most (via lightroom metadata) and it was the 50mm 1.4 without a flash. So what did I pack the second go around, my 5DIII+50mm and a small tripod. I got the images I wanted and I was enjoying the moment.

You could consider a 35mm 1.4 instead of 50mm 1.4 if you like a wider perspective but I like pictures tight on the subject.

Whatever you do leave the 70-200 at home. Its too cumbersome and long for a tiny hospital room.

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