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A personal Samsung 16-50 PZ f3.5-5.6 Review plus comparisons

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Ben Herrmann
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A personal Samsung 16-50 PZ f3.5-5.6 Review plus comparisons
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Hello all...

I wanted to submit my personal review of this new Samsung 16-50 PZ lens. When it first was announced months ago, I was very curious about getting one, so I put my name on a waiting list at B&H Photo in NYC. Well, I had completely forgotten about it - that is, until I received an email from B&H around 10 days ago, telling me that it was finally available for purchase. So at $350 USD a pop, I thought, "why not...." So I ordered one (the black version) and it arrived 3 days later (free shipping).

Please note that these are my personal comments - based on how I use a camera (in this case, the PZ 16-50 was mated with the NX300). I am going to provide comparisons between this new Samsung 16-50 PZ zoom and another PZ zoom manufactured by Panasonic - the Lumix 14-42 f3.5-5.6 PZ (equivalent to a 28-84 zoom). These are the only two Power Zoom type of lenses available on the market (that I'm aware of), and since I enjoy my Panasonic version so much, I thought it best to compare to that model in a variety of ways. Keep in mind that with micro 4/3 cameras just multiply their focal lengths by x 2 to arrive at the 35 MM equivalent (i.e. a 20 MM micro 4/3 lens is equivalent to approx 40 MM focal length).

Alright the short it:

1. This new Samsung PZ 16-50 zoom lens is one of the sharpest general purpose zoom lens that I've experienced...period (among many brands)! Well, at least my copy is. It is exceptionally sharp in the center and even out to the edges at f5.6 and above, are very sharp and at that low price point, it becomes a real bargain. It is, IMO, much sharper than the standard Samsung 18-55 and having that extra reach to about 25 MM makes a world of difference. And I find it sharper than the Panasonic 14-42 PZ lens that I'm comparing it to below (but that could also be due to the fact that the Panny GX-1 is a 16 MP camera, whereas the NX-300 is 20 MP's).

2. As for the build quality - the Samsung PZ zoom is a nicely built zoom lens. It's compact (when not turned on) and is equivalent to a prime lens in size. Once you turn it on, however, it zooms out and in some respects, it is then comparable to a regular-sized general purpose zoom lens (see photos below). It has a metal lens mount - definitely better than the standard 18-55 kit lens, that's for sure.

3. Ergonomics - well, IMO, Samsung could have done a much better job with this - so please read my comments below on ergonomics and buttons.

Here is a photo (looking from the top down), showing both the Panasonic Lumix PZ zoom attached to a 16 MP GX-1, and the new Samsung PZ lens attached to the NX300. This is what they look like without the camera being turned on:

Now, let's turn on the cameras and see how far the lens protrudes:

From the front, the lenses look like this on their respective cameras:

Smile.....

Alright - at this point, this is where I "nail" Samsung for not getting the ergonomics right, IMO. As I mentioned, the new PZ zoom has wonderfully sharp optics and is nicely built. While shooting however, I came to realize that zooming the lens is not as easy, pleasant, and convenient as it is with the Panasonic version of the PZ lens. I say this because the zoom buttons on the Samsung PZ lens are basically flat, level with the surface of the lens body. Unless you keep your fingers permanently on the toggle zoom buttons, you will find that you have to take your eye off the viewfinder and visually confirm where these buttons are. Whereas the Panasonic PZ zoom lens has elevated levers which are easy to find, are located a bit higher up on the lens, and even with your eyes closed, these small levers are intuitive to find. I found that while shooting with the Samsung version, I had to constantly look away from my viewfinder and look to where the zoom toggle buttons where. Had Samsung elevated them a bit higher, it would have made the lens far easier to use with regard to zooming. See the photos below.

As you can see when you look at the Panny PZ zoom lens, they have a toggle lever that sticks up and is easy to find (without having to look for it). In addition, they have another lever for manual focus below that. These levers sit on a small elevated platform - again, making them intuitive to use.

With the Samsung PZ version, the zoom buttons are basically level with the lens body and situated more towards the botton (same with the iFN button). Again - subjective - I found that while shooting, I was fumbling around with trying to find the zoom buttons and had to visually inspect the lens to find them. I'm sure that with time it will become second nature.

Both PZ zooms (made by Panny and Samsung) do not provide a lens hood - actually, there aren't any made for these lenses.

Since I almost always use a lens hood, I improvised and obtained a step up ring - in the case of the Samsung, a 43-58 MM step-up ring was obtained (around $3 USD) off of eBay and then I also purchased a 58 MM round (slim) wide angle lens hood ($10 USD), again, off of eBay. Here is the Samsung shown with the step-up ring, 58 MM lens hood, and a 62 MM generic lens cap (keep in the mind that the 62 MM snap-on lens cap fits the outer part of the 58 lens hood perfectly). The reasons I chose a 43-58 MM step up ring and then a 58 MM lens hood are:

1. To ensure that vignetting would not occur, and...

2. To ensure that the lens hood would be roughly as wide as the lens and not look unusual. I specifically chose this type of wide angle lens hood - as opposed to those unnatural looking flared out wide angle hoods - so it would better complement the lens and camera.

Here you see the 43-58 MM step-up ring, the 58 MM metal wide angle (slim) lens hood, and a generic 62 MM snap-on lens cap.

Now, here is a photo showing both cameras with the lens hoods attached (with the cameras turned off).

As you can see, the use of these slim wide angle lens hoods complement the lenses much better, IMO, than the super flared out versions that you see everywhere.

OK - enough with comparisons. As you can see, I'm giving this lens 4 stars. It really should be 4 and a half stars, but because of the zoom button scenario (an issue for me that may not be an issue for you), I'm giving it just 4.

As stated, the lens is sharp and it's staying on my NX300. I was surprised at how much difference having the additional wide angle reach to 24-25 MM made. When you get accustomed to having zooms with a 28 MM wide end of things, having the additional width really makes a world of difference.

While zooming with the Samsung PZ lens, it is slower in speed than the zoom on the Panasonic PZ version. So be prepared for it to take its time zooming.

So although it sounds like I'm knocking the lens, the end result - IQ - is what it's all about. And I can honestly say that IMO, this is one sharp zoom and I'm quite satisfied with it.

There are a few samples taken with this combo on the following post. Note, the images are not earth shattering. They were taken at a huge country picnic sponsored by the American Legion and a half dozen other organizations. The scene was a private horse farm. The weather was typical deep south 95-96 Degrees F (with humidity levels almost as high), lots of haze in the sky, people were sweating profusely (we're here in North Carolina). Now keep in mind that the originals look superb, but after resizing these down to 1024 x 768 at a 95% quality level, much has been lost. So if you're trying to "pixel peep" with these smaller images...good luck, you won't be impressed.

Images on next posting.

Have a great one....
Bernd (Ben) W. Herrmann
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Ben Herrmann
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Some NX300 and NX 16-50 f3.5-5.6 PZ samples...

All images were originally shot in AWB, RAW mode, Aperture Priority Mode, from ISO's 100 through 1600.  They were subsequently converted with Lightroom 5.5 and saved in TIF format.  I then took the TIF's and converted them to JPG's for web viewing, using Irfanview in batch conversion mode (note:  Irfanview strips away exif data when converting from TIF to JPG mode, so sorry about that).  Frames were added using IDFramer software.

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Raw Jaw
Raw Jaw Senior Member • Posts: 2,662
Re: Some NX300 and NX 16-50 f3.5-5.6 PZ samples...

Thanks for a great review of the NX 16-50PZ.

Have you tried the Remote Viewfinder?

I will get that lens hood you made. But I do use a UV filter.

I found no video with the NX300 with the 16-50 PZ, am I correct?

Thanks again.

arbuz Senior Member • Posts: 2,247
Thanks Ben, good review, really appreciated (n/t).

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Ben Herrmann
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Back at ya....links and more

Remote viewfinder?  Explain more - I know that the NX300 does not have an optional EVF, so I guess you're talking about a smart phone app?  I don't use that.

As for filters, you can easily put a filter in between the step-up ring and the lens hood. Be sure to get one of those slim filters (not the regular sized, fat ones). The step up rings and lens hoods can be gotten off of eBay. Here are the links below:

step-up ring:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.X43-58+MM+step+up+rings&_nkw=43-58+MM+step+up+rings&_sacat=625&_from=R40

And the wide angle lens hoods (slim versions):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Metal-Wide-Angle-58mm-Screw-in-Lens-Hood-/360975530755?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item540bd17b03

and

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Metal-Wide-Angle-58mm-Screw-in-Lens-Hood-Cap-/201119332177?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ed3a57751

So far, I have a filter on the panasonic setup.  I just need to get another filter for my Samsung setup.

As for a video showing the NX300 and 16-50 PZ lens, I haven't seen any of those.

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RayUK Senior Member • Posts: 1,051
Re: A personal Samsung 16-50 PZ f3.5-5.6 Review plus comparisons

Thanks Ben, you've answered my question in a different thread.

Ray

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nster Regular Member • Posts: 114
Re: A personal Samsung 16-50 PZ f3.5-5.6 Review plus comparisons

I am curious about the AF speed and the performance between 30-50mm? especially aperture wide open?

Ben Herrmann
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Well...

I only shot with it for one lengthy shoot at the BBQ picnic I mentioned - around 400 images or so. It was very fast in the AF department. Of course, I kept my apertures between f5.6 and f6.3 (nothing below or above that for this shoot). But yes, the AF was no slouch - that's for sure.

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Raw Jaw
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Re: Back at ya....links and more

Thanks for the reply and the links.

I need to re-word my last question above:

I meant to say that I could not find Remote Viewfinder on the NX300 with video capability.

With the 16-50 PZ I was hoping  to use video on my Nx300 with Remote Viewfinder.

Raw Jaw
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Re: Back at ya....links and more
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Just bought the Step-up ring and the hood with the cap thanks to your links.

Thank you.

AndricD Regular Member • Posts: 231
Re: Back at ya....links and more

can confirm that nx300 + latest firmware + 16-50 pz + updated remote app on samsung tab8 allows zooming

Limited use as yet, but min focus is very close - can see it being good for food porn

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Re: Back at ya....links and more

Thanks Ben for the review but one note on ergonomics as my view is opposite to yours.

While I agree on your comment on button style and placement, I hardly ever use them to Zoom buttons at all but I always use the front ring only.

Typically I am doing a DMF post focus lock to control the focus as such hence my "workflow" here is more natural compared to the Pana zoom using the dual function front ring. It might be different when you do video but for photography changing the focal length by turning a ring works best for me

On the Pana you need to change your finger positioning when you want to focus and zoom, on the NX PZ you can do that in one go (for those NX Bodies that support DMF obviously ! aka most of the 20Mpix bodies)

Personally my main ergonomics flaw with the buttons is the close positioning of the iFn that you accidentally hit quite easy.

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seph Regular Member • Posts: 188
Re: A personal Samsung 16-50 PZ f3.5-5.6 Review plus comparisons

Thank you very much for this review !

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Re: Back at ya....links and more

AndricD wrote:

can confirm that nx300 + latest firmware + 16-50 pz + updated remote app on samsung tab8 allows zooming

Limited use as yet, but min focus is very close - can see it being good for food porn

Thank you for the info.

viking79
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How quick is zoom with front ring instead of button?

I believe you can turn the front ring to zoom before focusing, which might zoom much faster (it does on a similar Sony lens).  So my question is, how much faster (or the same speed) is the zoom with the front multi-function ring?

I think the button zoom is designed for video, so it is meant to be slow.

Thanks,

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Re: A personal Samsung 16-50 PZ f3.5-5.6 Review plus comparisons
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Ben Herrmann wrote:

OK - enough with comparisons. As you can see, I'm giving this lens 4 stars. It really should be 4 and a half stars, but because of the zoom button scenario (an issue for me that may not be an issue for you), I'm giving it just 4.

Ben,

An excellent review.  I have just quickly scanned down the responses and discovered that tjobbe has beaten me to it on the main thing I was about to tell you about the lens (I have one too), but it bears repeating here anyway: you don't have to use the buttons to zoom.  The focus ring acts as the zoom ring when it's not being used for anything else - it is also far speedier than the buttons, and seems a bit "smart" in that it seems to speed up if you flick it round with gusto.

In this, it is actually quite similar to the power zoom lens you're not aware of (from your mention of this and the Panasonic 14-42 X being the only ones) - the Sony 16-50 PZ, which is the standard zoom on Sony's NEX/Alpha APS-C line (since the NEX-5R), and which is rather more similar to the Samsung in design than the Panasonic is.  Though like you, I am impressed with the Samsung's optics whereas the Sony one varies a bit from example to example and can be quite mediocre in some cases.

While zooming with the Samsung PZ lens, it is slower in speed than the zoom on the Panasonic PZ version. So be prepared for it to take its time zooming.

If you have your NX300 updated to firmware v1.41, you can pick the zoom speed for the buttons in the menu - the default is medium (so you could have them even slower!) but there is also a fast option.  In case you don't have that version of the firmware installed yet, you will also discover on loading it that you will then have a permanent display (in most display modes) of the focal length it is set to during shooting.

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If you have your NX300 updated to firmware v1.41, you can pick the zoom speed for the buttons in the menu - the default is medium (so you could have them even slower!) but there is also a fast option. In case you don't have that version of the firmware installed yet, you will also discover on loading it that you will then have a permanent display (in most display modes) of the focal length it is set to during shooting.

Excellent, I won't have to ask the question

I wish they add informations like DOF scale on-screen one day ! And why not, a way to lock it, so manual use will be complete.

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You're right....

You're right about the front ring.  My focus, and it was purely subjective, was how the power zoom buttons were placed.  As I mentioned in my comments, others may have differing views.  But yes, when focusing with the ring, it speeds things up - that's for sure.

As I mentioned, I've really warmed up to this lens in a hurry.  For me, it's the overall IQ that this lens is capable of capturing.

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Yes, you are correct....

As I just mentioned above in a reply, the front ring does zoom faster.  My comments, which were purely subjective, tended to focus on the power zoom buttons on the lens.  But yes, when using the ring in front of the lens, the zoom speed is much faster.  The reason I tended to prefer the PZ buttons is because I had become accustomed to them on the Panasonic version of the lens.  But for this Samsung lens I will focus just on the ring for zooming.

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Yup....the firmware is updated, and...

thanks for that - I overlooked that element in the menu.  Thanks for pointing that out.

As I mentioned, I enjoy the quality (and clarity) of this lens, as I'm sure others will also.

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