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Samsung 16-50mm Premium S Lens with NX10??

Started Jul 14, 2014 | Discussions
rudeboymcc Forum Member • Posts: 69
Samsung 16-50mm Premium S Lens with NX10??
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I'm thinking of buying the 16-50 premium lens (f2-2.8), but i can't find my camera NX10 in the list of compatible cameras:

http://www.samsung.com/us/photography/digital-cameras-accessories/EX-S1650ASB/US

Is this lens not compatible? I thought ALL nx lenses would be compatible with all cameras (with maybe some reduced functionality like for the power zoom and iFn).

Samsung 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 power zoom Samsung NX10
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ianbullock Forum Member • Posts: 50
Re: Samsung 16-50mm Premium S Lens with NX10??

Bit confused, says compatible models are "NX30, Galaxy NX, NX2000, NX300, NX20, NX210, NX1000, NX1100, NX200, NX100, NX10"

So, I think no problem there.

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Samsung NX300 Samsung NX 30mm F2 Pancake Samsung NX 20-50mm F3.5-5.6 ED Samsung NX 50-200mm F4-5.6 OIS Samyang 85mm F1.4 Aspherical IF +2 more
OP rudeboymcc Forum Member • Posts: 69
Re: Samsung 16-50mm Premium S Lens with NX10??

ah, i was looking at the compatible products list . I guess that list is only of current products. mystery solved!

viking79
viking79 Forum Pro • Posts: 14,157
Re: Samsung 16-50mm Premium S Lens with NX10??

rudeboymcc wrote:

ah, i was looking at the compatible products list . I guess that list is only of current products. mystery solved!

I can try it out with my NX11 tomorrow if you like and I remember

Eric

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targut Regular Member • Posts: 456
Re: Samsung 16-50mm Premium S Lens with NX10??
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Actually, not. Newer cameras have firmware patches for compatibility with 16-50 power zoom lens provided but NX11 has the last firmware from December, 2012.

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vatazhka
vatazhka Regular Member • Posts: 355
Re: Samsung 16-50mm Premium S Lens with NX10??

targut wrote:

Actually, not. Newer cameras have firmware patches for compatibility with 16-50 power zoom lens provided but NX11 has the last firmware from December, 2012.

The patches may only add functions such as "zoom + / -" menu option and display focal legth on the screen.

It would be interesting to actually verify whether they can be used with older bodies such as NX5/10/11 using the controls on the lens. NX1000/1100 users will also be interested as it seems that the support has ended for these cameras as well.

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tjobbe
tjobbe Senior Member • Posts: 1,430
Re: Samsung 16-50mm Premium S Lens with NX10??

the patches do few things

a) they tell the JPEG engine how to correct the image (especially at 16mm) as well as which information to write to the RAW data for the converters using it

b) for proper OiS handling the NX needs to know the lens and its speed limits to set the lowest shutter speed properly

It will let you take images but you need to be aware of the above limitations

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Faith Yeung Contributing Member • Posts: 600
Re: Samsung 16-50mm Premium S Lens with NX10??

What is the answer?

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viking79
viking79 Forum Pro • Posts: 14,157
Re: Samsung 16-50mm Premium S Lens with NX10??
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Faith Yeung wrote:

What is the answer?

I forgot to test the 2-2.8 S lens on my NX11, will try to remember to tonight

Send me a PM reminder if I don't post back here.

Eric

 viking79's gear list:viking79's gear list
Sony a7R Samsung NX1 Samsung NX 30mm F2 Pancake Samsung NX 85mm F1.4 ED SSA Samsung NX 60mm F2.8 Macro ED OIS SSA +5 more
viking79
viking79 Forum Pro • Posts: 14,157
Works great!
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viking79 wrote:

Faith Yeung wrote:

What is the answer?

I forgot to test the 2-2.8 S lens on my NX11, will try to remember to tonight

Send me a PM reminder if I don't post back here.

Eric

Hooked the 16-50mm f/2-2.8 up to the NX11 and it was great. Only issue is the NX11 is really slow operation compared to my NX30, but that is not the lens. I hadn't used the NX11 for a while and switching this lens between there is a world of difference in focus speed and ability to focus in low light. Makes you realize that Samsung actually has come a long way The NX11 is still a great camera and sees a lot of use in my house.

Samsung made the distortion corrections right, they store the information in lens, so the body firmware doesn't matter. Sony made the mistake early on where the body firmware always had to be updated for new lens support. Not sure what they did, but I think the later bodies fixed that issue.

Distortion correction is done in camera as the viewfinder/monitor and resulting JPEG images are corrected just as it is on my NX30. I didn't go looking for any other issues like CA or anything, but overall I think the lens will work just fine. I didn't try a RAW yet, but JPEG is fine.

Testing OIS

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Sony a7R Samsung NX1 Samsung NX 30mm F2 Pancake Samsung NX 85mm F1.4 ED SSA Samsung NX 60mm F2.8 Macro ED OIS SSA +5 more
Faith Yeung Contributing Member • Posts: 600
Re: Works great!

Thank you.

In that sense, the 16-50 pan zoom will also work on NX 10.

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viking79
viking79 Forum Pro • Posts: 14,157
Yes, 16-50mm power zoom is great too

Faith Yeung wrote:

Thank you.

In that sense, the 16-50 pan zoom will also work on NX 10.

Controls for zoom are all on lens, works as well as any other Samsung lens on the NX11.  These are just quick shots to make sure everything was functioning (OIS, distortion correction, etc).  Nothing to judge sharpness by or anything.  Looks fine though.

Distortion at 16mm, some mustache distortion, not bad

Testing OIS

 viking79's gear list:viking79's gear list
Sony a7R Samsung NX1 Samsung NX 30mm F2 Pancake Samsung NX 85mm F1.4 ED SSA Samsung NX 60mm F2.8 Macro ED OIS SSA +5 more
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