m43 vs. Nikon DX - similar subject

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m43 vs. Nikon DX - similar subject
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I took pictures of malacothamnus flowers (in the mallow family)  in our yard at the end of March.  I first took pictures with my Panasonic G6 + Olympus 60mm macro lens.  The next day, I took pictures with a Nikon D5000 with Sigma 150mm macro lens.  (I normally used the 150mm lens on a D7000 but that day, I wanted to try the lens on the ~ 1 lb. lighter D5000 body.)

with Panasonic G6 + Olympus 60mm macro lens.

with Nikon D5000 + Sigma 150mm macro lens.

The subject isn't quite the same but it was close.  The light may not have been the same but it was close.

In both cases, the camera was on a tripod and the shutter speed was high enough to avoid problems with subject movement.

I've been using m43 gear since the beginning of March and have decided that for my closeup/macro work, the m43 camera can deliver equivalent results.  m43 features like focus peaking, blinkies, usable controls and the touch screen make give me more keepers with less anxiety and less work.

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Macros benefit from smaller size of sensor.

About photos: for me it is difficult to compare them because they were taken 24 hours apart.

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I'm not sure wht these pictures are supposed to prove.

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arbuz wrote:

I'm not sure wht these pictures are supposed to prove.

I don't think they are suppose to prove anything; just two samples.

OP - Either camera/lens will do fine with macro; just use the one that you feel more comfortable using. I like m43 (and E-M5 in particular) for macro work just due to the live view and tilt screen. Since the camera is so much lighter, you really dont need to spend $1k on a tripod/head to get a steady base either.

Enjoy!

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String wrote:

arbuz wrote:

I'm not sure wht these pictures are supposed to prove.

I don't think they are suppose to prove anything; just two samples.

OP - Either camera/lens will do fine with macro; just use the one that you feel more comfortable using. I like m43 (and E-M5 in particular) for macro work just due to the live view and tilt screen. Since the camera is so much lighter, you really dont need to spend $1k on a tripod/head to get a steady base either.

I posted the pictures as a concrete example of results for one specific application.  (They have both been cropped down to show a single flower.  Not quite 1 image pixel to one screen pixel but close.)  I stated my conclusion from these and hundreds of other pictures. m43 gear can deliver more-or-less equivalent results to DSLRs with APS-C sensors for this application.

I'm not forcing any conclusions on anyone but just offering additional material.

I did my homework and made my decision some time ago.  I needed to reduce the weight I carried.  I also wanted the benefits of EVF based functions like focus peaking.  My move from Nikon DX gear to m43 has worked out quite well and I'm not going back.

In the process, I moved to a sensor/lens combination that allows me to get more depth of field at the cost of having more images where the background still has some detail.  My choice.

Your point about tripods is a good one.  I went from carrying 10 lb. setup of DSLR camera, lens, tripod head and legs to a 4 lb. m43 setup.  I recently bought a $ 25 tripod with head that brings the weight down to 3-3.5 lb.  It is steady enough for use with a 1.5 lb. body + lens combination.

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Old Listener wrote:

String wrote:

arbuz wrote:

I'm not sure wht these pictures are supposed to prove.

I don't think they are suppose to prove anything; just two samples.

OP - Either camera/lens will do fine with macro; just use the one that you feel more comfortable using. I like m43 (and E-M5 in particular) for macro work just due to the live view and tilt screen. Since the camera is so much lighter, you really dont need to spend $1k on a tripod/head to get a steady base either.

I posted the pictures as a concrete example of results for one specific application. (They have both been cropped down to show a single flower. Not quite 1 image pixel to one screen pixel but close.) I stated my conclusion from these and hundreds of other pictures. m43 gear can deliver more-or-less equivalent results to DSLRs with APS-C sensors for this application.

I should hope so given that you're comparing to an APS-C camera that was released over 5 yrs. ago. A comparison with one of the 24MP dx cameras would be much more illuminating.

I'm not forcing any conclusions on anyone but just offering additional material.

I did my homework and made my decision some time ago. I needed to reduce the weight I carried. I also wanted the benefits of EVF based functions like focus peaking. My move from Nikon DX gear to m43 has worked out quite well and I'm not going back.

In the process, I moved to a sensor/lens combination that allows me to get more depth of field at the cost of having more images where the background still has some detail. My choice.

Your point about tripods is a good one. I went from carrying 10 lb. setup of DSLR camera, lens, tripod head and legs to a 4 lb. m43 setup. I recently bought a $ 25 tripod with head that brings the weight down to 3-3.5 lb. It is steady enough for use with a 1.5 lb. body + lens combination.

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wildlifr wrote:

I should hope so given that you're comparing to an APS-C camera that was released over 5 yrs. ago. A comparison with one of the 24MP dx cameras would be much more illuminating.

Feel free to make the perfect comparison and post it.

I don't have a 24 MPixel Nikon DX body. However, I have found very little difference for my macro/closeup applications between the D5000 and the D7000 (16 MPixels) which is a generation newer.

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So I might as well get a Nikon V2 since that sensor is close to m4/3 as well then.

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nzmacro wrote:

So I might as well get a Nikon V2 since that sensor is close to m4/3 as well then.

Danny.

Depends on your application.  The system didn't fit my needs but it might be a good fit for some peoples' applications.  So I didn't get to the point of evaluating the V1 or V2 or V3 sensors for my application.

Even my ancient Panasonic FZ50 bridge camera with a really small sensor produces equivalent results to the Nikon DXs in some situations.

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nzmacro wrote:

So I might as well get a Nikon V2 since that sensor is close to m4/3 as well then.

Oh, I've been there. Proprietary flash shoe makes lighting difficult.

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