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White cameras....do I want one?

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Tio Palo New Member • Posts: 7
White cameras....do I want one?

I'm seriously considering a  Samsung nx camera (leaning toward an nx1100 at this point) and have noticed that the nx1000, 1100, and others seem to be often priced lower if they're white. I'm wondering about keeping it clean or maybe even what to use to change the color (probably a dumb idea).  I really wanted a black camera. My wife asked why I didn't want a white camera and I realized I'm not absolutely sure why I don't want one, so I'm considering a white one (they're for sale everywhere I look, but black is harder to find).

I'd appreciate any pros or cons on the subject from owners or others who have or are considering a white bodied-camera (or why you're not considering a white camera).

I haven't owned what I'd call a "real" camera since the mid 70s, so I've spent the last few months learning about what is available and what's new. It's all changed so much but I'm beginning to understand the new basics.

Thanks in advance for any input.

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MGJA
MGJA Regular Member • Posts: 477
Re: White cameras....do I want one?

I have a white NX1000. It looks like a toy cam, which is good or bad depending on your usage. If you plan to do wedding shoots, most likely your potential clients will be suspicious. On the other hand, I find it utterly brilliant for street shooting - people who react aggressively to "serious" looking gear just take a look, mentally sort you into the tourist category, and then blithely ignore you. Love it.

OP Tio Palo New Member • Posts: 7
Re: White cameras....do I want one?

I was mostly concerned about keeping the camera nice and white. I live in the woods and will do a lot of shooting outdoors with it. I won't be doing any wildlife shooting from blinds, so being stealthy isn't necessary. I just came in my front gate a few minutes ago and saw a deer about a hundred feet from me. I talked to it for a couple of minutes and it stood watching me. I waved at it and moved a lot without spooking it, so I doubt that a white camera would have scared it away. I hadn't thought about the tourist stereotype and being ignored, but that's a good thing. Being ignored is almost as good as being invisible.

Auster Pilot Senior Member • Posts: 1,222
Re: White cameras....do I want one?

I have a white NX1100, White 16mm F2.4 plus Black 30mm F2 and Black 18-200mm Zoom.

Love the camera, it is very much point and shoot profile with the (16 and 30mm pancakes) and is so light to have around the neck. Gets a lot of use from me, particularly when I'm flying my aircraft and I think my best quality photos from all my camera gear come from those primes and at such a ridiculously low price for a set of quality kit.

Not noticed any significant signs of dirtiness on the white finish despite it spending much of it's time out of it's carry case in teh 4 months I have had it.

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targut Regular Member • Posts: 456
Re: White cameras....do I want one?

White lenses are lower priced too. And of course there is no difference in image quality between black and white.

If I was after a camera now, I would prefer white.

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Usee
Usee Senior Member • Posts: 2,223
Re: White cameras....do I want one?

Tio Palo wrote:

I'm seriously considering a Samsung nx camera (leaning toward an nx1100 at this point) and have noticed that the nx1000, 1100, and others seem to be often priced lower if they're white. I'm wondering about keeping it clean or maybe even what to use to change the color (probably a dumb idea). I really wanted a black camera. My wife asked why I didn't want a white camera and I realized I'm not absolutely sure why I don't want one, so I'm considering a white one (they're for sale everywhere I look, but black is harder to find).

I'd appreciate any pros or cons on the subject from owners or others who have or are considering a white bodied-camera (or why you're not considering a white camera).

I haven't owned what I'd call a "real" camera since the mid 70s, so I've spent the last few months learning about what is available and what's new. It's all changed so much but I'm beginning to understand the new basics.

Thanks in advance for any input.

I have a white NX1000 and I had similar thoughts before I bought it...

...however, at least now, I wonder why I had any doubts, because:

The white body is perceived by most as harmless, funny, nice, etc. and therefore a good choice for people photography...

My white camera was used during renovation works, with lots of dust and dirt - no problem, those things do not stick on the body.

I also feel, that it is better to have a white camera lying in the sun, than a black one...

...also, when taking night shots, it is easier to find in the dark.

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I have to admit, that I had doubts during the unboxing and the first days,

but meanwhile I'm happy that I made this decision...

...not only because I guess that no one would steal a little, white plastic camera - no greed, no envy!

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captura Forum Pro • Posts: 27,478
Re: White cameras....do I want one?

Usee wrote:

Tio Palo wrote:

I'm seriously considering a Samsung nx camera (leaning toward an nx1100 at this point) and have noticed that the nx1000, 1100, and others seem to be often priced lower if they're white. I'm wondering about keeping it clean or maybe even what to use to change the color (probably a dumb idea). I really wanted a black camera. My wife asked why I didn't want a white camera and I realized I'm not absolutely sure why I don't want one, so I'm considering a white one (they're for sale everywhere I look, but black is harder to find).

I'd appreciate any pros or cons on the subject from owners or others who have or are considering a white bodied-camera (or why you're not considering a white camera).

I haven't owned what I'd call a "real" camera since the mid 70s, so I've spent the last few months learning about what is available and what's new. It's all changed so much but I'm beginning to understand the new basics.

Thanks in advance for any input.

I have a white NX1000 and I had similar thoughts before I bought it...

...however, at least now, I wonder why I had any doubts, because:

The white body is perceived by most as harmless, funny, nice, etc. and therefore a good choice for people photography...

My white camera was used during renovation works, with lots of dust and dirt - no problem, those things do not stick on the body.

I also feel, that it is better to have a white camera lying in the sun, than a black one...

...also, when taking night shots, it is easier to find in the dark.

-

I have to admit, that I had doubts during the unboxing and the first days,

but meanwhile I'm happy that I made this decision...

...not only because I guess that no one would steal a little, white plastic camera - no greed, no envy!

I was tossed out of a mall once by a security guard because of my old NEX red, which is red. The guard saw red, made him angry. I wasn't even shooting at the time; just had the strap around my neck with the cap off. Wouldn't have happened with my new white NX1000. I just got that 3 weeks ago for $127 with warranty. So that makes the second point about white ones being cheaper.

Did anyone see mymessage about the Olly teleconveter which is a perfect fit on the front of the 20-50 lens?

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53895986

Steve

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captura Forum Pro • Posts: 27,478
Re: White cameras....do I want one?

Usee wrote:

captura wrote:

Usee wrote:

Tio Palo wrote:

I'm seriously considering a Samsung nx camera (leaning toward an nx1100 at this point) and have noticed that the nx1000, 1100, and others seem to be often priced lower if they're white. I'm wondering about keeping it clean or maybe even what to use to change the color (probably a dumb idea). I really wanted a black camera. My wife asked why I didn't want a white camera and I realized I'm not absolutely sure why I don't want one, so I'm considering a white one (they're for sale everywhere I look, but black is harder to find).

I'd appreciate any pros or cons on the subject from owners or others who have or are considering a white bodied-camera (or why you're not considering a white camera).

I haven't owned what I'd call a "real" camera since the mid 70s, so I've spent the last few months learning about what is available and what's new. It's all changed so much but I'm beginning to understand the new basics.

Thanks in advance for any input.

I have a white NX1000 and I had similar thoughts before I bought it...

...however, at least now, I wonder why I had any doubts, because:

The white body is perceived by most as harmless, funny, nice, etc. and therefore a good choice for people photography...

My white camera was used during renovation works, with lots of dust and dirt - no problem, those things do not stick on the body.

I also feel, that it is better to have a white camera lying in the sun, than a black one...

...also, when taking night shots, it is easier to find in the dark.

-

I have to admit, that I had doubts during the unboxing and the first days,

but meanwhile I'm happy that I made this decision...

...not only because I guess that no one would steal a little, white plastic camera - no greed, no envy!

I was tossed out of a mall once by a security guard because of my old NEX red, which is red. The guard saw red, made him angry. I wasn't even shooting at the time; just had the strap around my neck with the cap off. Wouldn't have happened with my new white NX1000. I just got that 3 weeks ago for $127 with warranty. So that makes the second point about white ones being cheaper.

Yes, sometimes it seems to help to get a open-box camera for a very good price, like in your case...

Did anyone see mymessage about the Olly teleconveter which is a perfect fit on the front of the 20-50 lens?

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53895986

Steve

...and I guess, that it would have helped, to show a picture of that combo, to attract answers.

Thanks, I'll do that. It's the holstein version. White camera/20-50, with black telextender.

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captura Forum Pro • Posts: 27,478
Re: White cameras....do I want one?

Usee wrote:

Tio Palo wrote:

I've pulled the trigger and bought an nx1100 w/20-50mm lens on ebay at what appeared be a great price. I think it will serve me very well. I hope to find a deal on a white pancake lens for it. I also have a couple of pentax k lenses that I'll probably try to use with an adapter.

I think, that the color of the lens need not to match the color of the white camera - a black lens on a white body is not that distracting than vice versa.

Before you buy an adaptor, you should probably ask in a dedicated thread, which one is working the best, for the NX1100, because the Canon adaptor on my NX1000 is not precise enough to push the lens detection lever deep enough.

I appreciate all the input and can't wait to use a decent digital camera.

To have real fun with the NX cameras, it is important to shoot RAW...

May be off-topic, but the best JPEG shooters I've encountered were the Fuji EXR models such as the X10. And Nikon 1's not bad.

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MGJA
MGJA Regular Member • Posts: 477
Re: White cameras....do I want one?

Tio Palo wrote:

I was mostly concerned about keeping the camera nice and white.

Too late now, obviously, since you already bought it, but I've had absolutely no problem whatsoever with keeping the camera clean. It's not an issue. And my NX1000/30mm is my "take everywhere" camera that sees pretty hard usage in environments where I don't want to risk my more expensive gear. I wouldn't worry about it.

Oh, and enjoy your new camera.

captura Forum Pro • Posts: 27,478
Re: White cameras....do I want one?

Usee wrote:

captura wrote:

Usee wrote:

Tio Palo wrote:

I've pulled the trigger and bought an nx1100 w/20-50mm lens on ebay at what appeared be a great price. I think it will serve me very well. I hope to find a deal on a white pancake lens for it. I also have a couple of pentax k lenses that I'll probably try to use with an adapter.

I think, that the color of the lens need not to match the color of the white camera - a black lens on a white body is not that distracting than vice versa.

Before you buy an adaptor, you should probably ask in a dedicated thread, which one is working the best, for the NX1100, because the Canon adaptor on my NX1000 is not precise enough to push the lens detection lever deep enough.

I appreciate all the input and can't wait to use a decent digital camera.

To have real fun with the NX cameras, it is important to shoot RAW...

May be off-topic, but the best JPEG shooters I've encountered were the Fuji EXR models such as the X10. And Nikon 1's not bad.

Maybe?

-

Fuji (I still have one) is great for JPG shooters...

...but Samsung is the bang for the buck for RAW revelation!

-

The NX mini trumps the Nikon 1, even when shoot JPG...

...if you ask me...

...but this would really go a bit too off topic.

I see. Just got the NX1000, and so have not tried RAW. But I kind of like it's JPEG renditions, too. The only fault, besides not having an EVF, is that it simply doesn't compare for night outdoors shooting, to my NEX-5R and my NEX-7. I get clear pictures with those and nothing but mud, with the NX. Is there a special setting in there that I don't know about?

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JrLorenzi
JrLorenzi New Member • Posts: 7
Re: White cameras....do I want one?

MGJA wrote:

I have a white NX1000. It looks like a toy cam, which is good or bad depending on your usage. If you plan to do wedding shoots, most likely your potential clients will be suspicious. On the other hand, I find it utterly brilliant for street shooting - people who react aggressively to "serious" looking gear just take a look, mentally sort you into the tourist category, and then blithely ignore you. Love it.

Yes, my NX300 "Storm Trooper", as I call it, works really well as a street camera. Nobody seems to care about it. One the other hand, with my Lumix G, draws much more attention.

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captura Forum Pro • Posts: 27,478
Re: White cameras....do I want one?

Usee wrote:

captura wrote:

Usee wrote:

captura wrote:

Usee wrote:

Tio Palo wrote:

I've pulled the trigger and bought an nx1100 w/20-50mm lens on ebay at what appeared be a great price. I think it will serve me very well. I hope to find a deal on a white pancake lens for it. I also have a couple of pentax k lenses that I'll probably try to use with an adapter.

I think, that the color of the lens need not to match the color of the white camera - a black lens on a white body is not that distracting than vice versa.

Before you buy an adaptor, you should probably ask in a dedicated thread, which one is working the best, for the NX1100, because the Canon adaptor on my NX1000 is not precise enough to push the lens detection lever deep enough.

I appreciate all the input and can't wait to use a decent digital camera.

To have real fun with the NX cameras, it is important to shoot RAW...

May be off-topic, but the best JPEG shooters I've encountered were the Fuji EXR models such as the X10. And Nikon 1's not bad.

Maybe?

-

Fuji (I still have one) is great for JPG shooters...

...but Samsung is the bang for the buck for RAW revelation!

-

The NX mini trumps the Nikon 1, even when shoot JPG...

...if you ask me...

...but this would really go a bit too off topic.

I see. Just got the NX1000, and so have not tried RAW. But I kind of like it's JPEG renditions, too. The only fault, besides not having an EVF, is that it simply doesn't compare for night outdoors shooting, to my NEX-5R and my NEX-7. I get clear pictures with those and nothing but mud, with the NX. Is there a special setting in there that I don't know about?

In my opinion the NX1000 OOC JPGs are a lousy piece of cr.p...
...seriously!

-

Once I accidentally, whilst browsing the menu, forgot to change the setting from JPG to RAW...

...and therefore missed the opportunity to get some great late evening shots of a mountain view...

...the JPGs I got were just mushy, low dynamic, pictures with no fine detail.

-

Try to shoot RAW with this camera:

sharp from corner to corner - 23 mm equiv. - freehand snapshot during a stroll - 3D people on the meadow - if you view the original size version...

...and use a suited converter for high ISO shots:

NX1000 ISO 3200 for comparison with 16 MP cameras

...it is just a question of the RAW post processing.

Interesting! Maybe the mush I got at night shooting JPEGS was because I didn't use RAW. (no converter.) The NX1100 was only different from my NX1000 becausae they supplied a RAW converter with it.

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captura Forum Pro • Posts: 27,478
Re: White cameras....do I want one?

Usee wrote:

captura wrote:

Usee wrote:

captura wrote:

Usee wrote:

captura wrote:

Usee wrote:

Tio Palo wrote:

I've pulled the trigger and bought an nx1100 w/20-50mm lens on ebay at what appeared be a great price. I think it will serve me very well. I hope to find a deal on a white pancake lens for it. I also have a couple of pentax k lenses that I'll probably try to use with an adapter.

I think, that the color of the lens need not to match the color of the white camera - a black lens on a white body is not that distracting than vice versa.

Before you buy an adaptor, you should probably ask in a dedicated thread, which one is working the best, for the NX1100, because the Canon adaptor on my NX1000 is not precise enough to push the lens detection lever deep enough.

I appreciate all the input and can't wait to use a decent digital camera.

To have real fun with the NX cameras, it is important to shoot RAW...

May be off-topic, but the best JPEG shooters I've encountered were the Fuji EXR models such as the X10. And Nikon 1's not bad.

Maybe?

-

Fuji (I still have one) is great for JPG shooters...

...but Samsung is the bang for the buck for RAW revelation!

-

The NX mini trumps the Nikon 1, even when shoot JPG...

...if you ask me...

...but this would really go a bit too off topic.

I see. Just got the NX1000, and so have not tried RAW. But I kind of like it's JPEG renditions, too. The only fault, besides not having an EVF, is that it simply doesn't compare for night outdoors shooting, to my NEX-5R and my NEX-7. I get clear pictures with those and nothing but mud, with the NX. Is there a special setting in there that I don't know about?

In my opinion the NX1000 OOC JPGs are a lousy piece of cr.p...
...seriously!

-

Once I accidentally, whilst browsing the menu, forgot to change the setting from JPG to RAW...

...and therefore missed the opportunity to get some great late evening shots of a mountain view...

...the JPGs I got were just mushy, low dynamic, pictures with no fine detail.

-

Try to shoot RAW with this camera:

sharp from corner to corner - 23 mm equiv. - freehand snapshot during a stroll - 3D people on the meadow - if you view the original size version...

...and use a suited converter for high ISO shots:

NX1000 ISO 3200 for comparison with 16 MP cameras

...it is just a question of the RAW post processing.

Interesting! Maybe the mush I got at night shooting JPEGS was because I didn't use RAW. (no converter.) The NX1100 was only different from my NX1000 becausae they supplied a RAW converter with it.

My NX1000 was supplied with a RAW converter, based on Silkypix.
However, I already had Silkypix Pro at that time, because of my Sigma cameras.

Meanwhile I mostly use ACDSee Pro or RawTherapee for my files...

http://rawtherapee.com/downloads

...whereas ACDSee Pro isn't updated that often, thus I can only recommend using the free RawTherapee converter for NX RAWs - Lightroom is somehow a mixed bag and if it is not bundled with a camera, or already owned, I wouldn't recommend it also.

Intetresting. I have W. 7/64. There are so many choices with rawtherapee. How do you know which to choose?

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Re: should one answer dumb questions?

Usee wrote:

captura wrote:

Usee wrote:

captura wrote:

Usee wrote:

captura wrote:

Usee wrote:

captura wrote:

Usee wrote:

Tio Palo wrote:

I've pulled the trigger and bought an nx1100 w/20-50mm lens on ebay at what appeared be a great price. I think it will serve me very well. I hope to find a deal on a white pancake lens for it. I also have a couple of pentax k lenses that I'll probably try to use with an adapter.

I think, that the color of the lens need not to match the color of the white camera - a black lens on a white body is not that distracting than vice versa.

Before you buy an adaptor, you should probably ask in a dedicated thread, which one is working the best, for the NX1100, because the Canon adaptor on my NX1000 is not precise enough to push the lens detection lever deep enough.

I appreciate all the input and can't wait to use a decent digital camera.

To have real fun with the NX cameras, it is important to shoot RAW...

May be off-topic, but the best JPEG shooters I've encountered were the Fuji EXR models such as the X10. And Nikon 1's not bad.

Maybe?

-

Fuji (I still have one) is great for JPG shooters...

...but Samsung is the bang for the buck for RAW revelation!

-

The NX mini trumps the Nikon 1, even when shoot JPG...

...if you ask me...

...but this would really go a bit too off topic.

I see. Just got the NX1000, and so have not tried RAW. But I kind of like it's JPEG renditions, too. The only fault, besides not having an EVF, is that it simply doesn't compare for night outdoors shooting, to my NEX-5R and my NEX-7. I get clear pictures with those and nothing but mud, with the NX. Is there a special setting in there that I don't know about?

In my opinion the NX1000 OOC JPGs are a lousy piece of cr.p...
...seriously!

-

Once I accidentally, whilst browsing the menu, forgot to change the setting from JPG to RAW...

...and therefore missed the opportunity to get some great late evening shots of a mountain view...

...the JPGs I got were just mushy, low dynamic, pictures with no fine detail.

-

Try to shoot RAW with this camera:

sharp from corner to corner - 23 mm equiv. - freehand snapshot during a stroll - 3D people on the meadow - if you view the original size version...

...and use a suited converter for high ISO shots:

NX1000 ISO 3200 for comparison with 16 MP cameras

...it is just a question of the RAW post processing.

Interesting! Maybe the mush I got at night shooting JPEGS was because I didn't use RAW. (no converter.) The NX1100 was only different from my NX1000 becausae they supplied a RAW converter with it.

My NX1000 was supplied with a RAW converter, based on Silkypix.
However, I already had Silkypix Pro at that time, because of my Sigma cameras.

Meanwhile I mostly use ACDSee Pro or RawTherapee for my files...

http://rawtherapee.com/downloads

...whereas ACDSee Pro isn't updated that often, thus I can only recommend using the free RawTherapee converter for NX RAWs - Lightroom is somehow a mixed bag and if it is not bundled with a camera, or already owned, I wouldn't recommend it also.

Intetresting. I have W. 7/64. There are so many choices with rawtherapee. How do you know which to choose?

Are you sure that you don't try to fool me with your question(s)?

RawTherapee has a compatibility description, on every download link, on the page I already linked to...

...and this page even provides a filtering according platforms and bit depth:

... but, I guess, that RawTherapee is not suited for someone, who is seriously asking those silly questions - especially if considered, the information on the page I already hinted at (see the screenshots above):

http://rawtherapee.com/downloads

Sorry, but this is my last answer to your interesting approach of asking unnecessary questions.

Well anyway, thank you for that, I'm unfamiliar with Samsung cameras, "Raw Therapee," the Samsung forum and how you do things here. I'm more accustomed to some other forums and how they do things.

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Re: should one answer dumb questions?

Usee wrote:

captura wrote:

Usee wrote:

captura wrote:

Usee wrote:

captura wrote:

Usee wrote:

captura wrote:

Usee wrote:

captura wrote:

Usee wrote:

Tio Palo wrote:

I've pulled the trigger and bought an nx1100 w/20-50mm lens on ebay at what appeared be a great price. I think it will serve me very well. I hope to find a deal on a white pancake lens for it. I also have a couple of pentax k lenses that I'll probably try to use with an adapter.

I think, that the color of the lens need not to match the color of the white camera - a black lens on a white body is not that distracting than vice versa.

Before you buy an adaptor, you should probably ask in a dedicated thread, which one is working the best, for the NX1100, because the Canon adaptor on my NX1000 is not precise enough to push the lens detection lever deep enough.

I appreciate all the input and can't wait to use a decent digital camera.

To have real fun with the NX cameras, it is important to shoot RAW...

May be off-topic, but the best JPEG shooters I've encountered were the Fuji EXR models such as the X10. And Nikon 1's not bad.

Maybe?

-

Fuji (I still have one) is great for JPG shooters...

...but Samsung is the bang for the buck for RAW revelation!

-

The NX mini trumps the Nikon 1, even when shoot JPG...

...if you ask me...

...but this would really go a bit too off topic.

I see. Just got the NX1000, and so have not tried RAW. But I kind of like it's JPEG renditions, too. The only fault, besides not having an EVF, is that it simply doesn't compare for night outdoors shooting, to my NEX-5R and my NEX-7. I get clear pictures with those and nothing but mud, with the NX. Is there a special setting in there that I don't know about?

In my opinion the NX1000 OOC JPGs are a lousy piece of cr.p...
...seriously!

-

Once I accidentally, whilst browsing the menu, forgot to change the setting from JPG to RAW...

...and therefore missed the opportunity to get some great late evening shots of a mountain view...

...the JPGs I got were just mushy, low dynamic, pictures with no fine detail.

-

Try to shoot RAW with this camera:

sharp from corner to corner - 23 mm equiv. - freehand snapshot during a stroll - 3D people on the meadow - if you view the original size version...

...and use a suited converter for high ISO shots:

NX1000 ISO 3200 for comparison with 16 MP cameras

...it is just a question of the RAW post processing.

Interesting! Maybe the mush I got at night shooting JPEGS was because I didn't use RAW. (no converter.) The NX1100 was only different from my NX1000 becausae they supplied a RAW converter with it.

My NX1000 was supplied with a RAW converter, based on Silkypix.
However, I already had Silkypix Pro at that time, because of my Sigma cameras.

Meanwhile I mostly use ACDSee Pro or RawTherapee for my files...

http://rawtherapee.com/downloads

...whereas ACDSee Pro isn't updated that often, thus I can only recommend using the free RawTherapee converter for NX RAWs - Lightroom is somehow a mixed bag and if it is not bundled with a camera, or already owned, I wouldn't recommend it also.

Intetresting. I have W. 7/64. There are so many choices with rawtherapee. How do you know which to choose?

Are you sure that you don't try to fool me with your question(s)?

RawTherapee has a compatibility description, on every download link, on the page I already linked to...

...and this page even provides a filtering according platforms and bit depth:

... but, I guess, that RawTherapee is not suited for someone, who is seriously asking those silly questions - especially if considered, the information on the page I already hinted at (see the screenshots above):

http://rawtherapee.com/downloads

Sorry, but this is my last answer to your interesting approach of asking unnecessary questions.

Well anyway, thank you for that, I'm unfamiliar with Samsung cameras, "Raw Therapee," the Samsung forum and how you do things here. I'm more accustomed to some other forums and how they do things.

But in your gear list one can see that you had a NX1000:

I HAVE an X1000, just got it a few weeks ago.

However, in this thread you write, that you have a NX1000 bought three weeks ago for a unbelievable low price...

I also HAVE the Canon EF lens.My gear list keeps changing a lot so I don't even bother with it anymore.

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...especially in regard to your claim:

"The NX1100 was only different from my NX1000 becausae they supplied a RAW converter with it."

I didn't know that, and I don't know, if it's true...

Straight from Google and dpr...DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH please.

...but you say, that you are unfamiliar with Samsung cameras.

Never had one before.

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...and how obvious has a hint on a download page to be?

...beside that you wrote:

"Interesting! Maybe the mush I got at night shooting JPEGS was because I didn't use RAW. (no converter.) "

Only thing in the box was a strap, battery & charger....not even caps. The NET has no mention of a RAW converter.

...but at least my NX1000 was bundled with a converter...

...and you write, that the only difference between the NX1100 and the NX1000 was in the supply of a converter.

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Sorry, but what you write is not really consistent...

...maybe that isn't unusal in a non Samsung forum?

In this Samsung forum, most people try to give a real advice based on facts...

Is this kind of representative of your forum? If so, maybe I'll just dump the white camera into the garbage and be done with it all. No way to treat a newbie!

I have other cameras.

...maybe not interesting for everyones needs.

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Re: should one answer dumb questions?

"Well, this comment was to expect, due to your interesting posts before."

- explain in plain English, please.

And since you know better, and because  I am as stated, a newbie to the Samsung forum and to Samsung cameras...what exactly is the difference between an NX1000 and the NX1100?

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Re: should one give such dumb answers?

Usee wrote:

captura wrote:

"Well, this comment was to expect, due to your interesting posts before."

- explain in plain English, please.

http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/EV-NX1000BFWUS

Do you understand the download link, with the possibility to download the Samsung RAW converter, for the NX1000?

You wrote:

"The NET has no mention of a RAW converter."

Wow, based on what facts?

Obviously the Samsung support site for the NX1000, has a remarkable trace...

And since you know better, and because I am as stated, a newbie to the Samsung forum and to Samsung cameras...what exactly is the difference between an NX1000 and the NX1100?

...go, waste someone else's time.

I DID NOT WRITE TO YOU, BUT TO THE GROUP.

HERE IS THE PROOF YOU DEMANDED ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE NX1000 AND THE NX1100; I SAID THAT IT WAS A RAW PROCESSING PACKAGE! (Not believing what I said.)

"Re: NX1000 vs NX1100

In reply to mike geier, 11 months ago

The only difference I am aware of is that Adobe Lightroom is included in the NX1100 package. Unless there are other significant differences, in my opinion the NX1000 is a better buy as it is generally far cheaper, even allowing for purchase of Lightroom separately. The NX1100's price is so close to the much more advanced NX300 that you'd wonder why anyone would choose it in preference to the NX300." RIGHT FROM YOUR OWN FORUM!

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51791565

Next time if you see a post you don't like, just ignore it. Instead of ridiculing the OP. That is against the rules, I believe.

Goodbye, you're now on my Ignore List!

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