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E-PM2 + 14mm f2.5

Started Jun 11, 2014 | Photos
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E-PM2 + 14mm f2.5

These are straight out of camera just re-sized to reduce file size.  Just wanted to test how this tiny combo works.  There is quite a bit purple fringing but I guess it can be removed in post processing.  I think the total weight of this combo is only around 320g which is perfect, most of these were shot with the camera in single hand while walking about.

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sigala1 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,911
MASSIVE purple fringing

There's some pretty MASSIVE purple fringing in those photos.

I daresay that my iPhone 5 does much better OOC JPEGs.

Bassam Guy Veteran Member • Posts: 4,890
Re: Are my eyes that bad?

sigala1 wrote:

There's some pretty MASSIVE purple fringing in those photos.

I daresay that my iPhone 5 does much better OOC JPEGs.

I've looked at these zoomed 100% but just don't see the purple. I have slight blue-green color blindness. Can you please identify somewhere in one of the OP's photo where the purple looks so obvious?

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eyeswideshut Regular Member • Posts: 338
Re: Are my eyes that bad?

Bassam Guy wrote:

sigala1 wrote:

There's some pretty MASSIVE purple fringing in those photos.

I daresay that my iPhone 5 does much better OOC JPEGs.

I've looked at these zoomed 100% but just don't see the purple. I have slight blue-green color blindness. Can you please identify somewhere in one of the OP's photo where the purple looks so obvious?

Similar condition, although my deficiency is mostly green/red. Normally I see purple w/o problems, but MASSIVE fringing? Cannot see it. Hopefully sigala1 will point it out for us.

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baxters Veteran Member • Posts: 5,319
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sylon wrote:

These are straight out of camera just re-sized to reduce file size. Just wanted to test how this tiny combo works. There is quite a bit purple fringing but I guess it can be removed in post processing. I

The EPM2 and 14mm is a nice combo. The 14mm is known for its PF in the edges, but it can be removed.

For CC, I would turn down the exposure a bit. Skies are getting blown out,

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sigala1 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,911
Re: Are my eyes that bad?

Bassam Guy wrote:

sigala1 wrote:

There's some pretty MASSIVE purple fringing in those photos.

I daresay that my iPhone 5 does much better OOC JPEGs.

I've looked at these zoomed 100% but just don't see the purple. I have slight blue-green color blindness. Can you please identify somewhere in one of the OP's photo where the purple looks so obvious?

Can you seriously not see purple EVERYWHERE in these photos, are are you just pretending to be blind because your favorite brand is being impugned.

One of the most important aspects of image quality of a color photo is that the colors are correct, is that not true? I don't see how you can claim anything other than, from a technical perspective, these are really crappy photo because there's so much purple where there was no purple in real life, and this can even be seen in tiny web-sized photos, we are not talking about pixel peeping at 400% magnification.

eyeswideshut Regular Member • Posts: 338
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sigala1 wrote:

Bassam Guy wrote:

sigala1 wrote:

There's some pretty MASSIVE purple fringing in those photos.

I daresay that my iPhone 5 does much better OOC JPEGs.

I've looked at these zoomed 100% but just don't see the purple. I have slight blue-green color blindness. Can you please identify somewhere in one of the OP's photo where the purple looks so obvious?

Can you seriously not see purple EVERYWHERE in these photos, are are you just pretending to be blind because your favorite brand is being impugned.

One of the most important aspects of image quality of a color photo is that the colors are correct, is that not true? I don't see how you can claim anything other than, from a technical perspective, these are really crappy photo because there's so much purple where there was no purple in real life, and this can even be seen in tiny web-sized photos, we are not talking about pixel peeping at 400% magnification.

I think what you are referring to is a generally cool tone / white balance related. Where is the purple fringing?

And why are you all huffy?

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Ron Evers
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Re: Are my eyes that bad?

I think the PF shows best around the tree in the second last pic.  Please click View Original Size.

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sigala1 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,911
6th image has shutter shock?

I think the 6th image is unsharp because of shutter shock. It was taken at 1/80 sec, a problem shutter speed.

You need to use 1/8 sec anti-shock and keep the IS turned off to help avoid this problem.

sigala1 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,911
Re: Are my eyes that bad?

The first picture has the worst purple fringing, the tree in the upper left is all purple:

http://4.static.img-dpreview.com/files/p/E~forums/53834232/6f9ba2f8be5c471ab20ebece9f9db132

Jeff4500
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Its a Pany Lens, and the Pany cameras do the fringing removal in camera (so do some current Oly I think) but I use either LR or CCPS to fix it very easily. If you want Jpeg you will see fringing in high contrast scenes. RAW files from these 16 mpx cameras are sooo much better than a phone's. On my EP5 the fringing is there against high contrast backgrounds but cleans up with a single click.

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QuakeO Regular Member • Posts: 166
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My CC is the inclusion of some unnecessary elements in the frame: cars, half a pedestrian, and a garbage can.

sylon wrote:

These are straight out of camera just re-sized to reduce file size. Just wanted to test how this tiny combo works. There is quite a bit purple fringing but I guess it can be removed in post processing. I think the total weight of this combo is only around 320g which is perfect, most of these were shot with the camera in single hand while walking about.

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Jere Landis Senior Member • Posts: 1,933
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Mt question is, if you put these up for inspection and critique, why in the world would you shoot one handed?

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Jere Landis Senior Member • Posts: 1,933
Re: 6th image has shutter shock?

You always are very critical and controversy follows you everywhere. Why don't you just pass on some of these threads?

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Bassam Guy Veteran Member • Posts: 4,890
Re: Are my eyes that bad?

Thanks Ron, for your courteous reply.

I see the fringing now - probably not as clearly as you but I see it. I also noticed the color cast problem earlier but didn't mention it in respect to the OP. Perhaps the color cast is what sigala1 meant by his oxymoron of fringing "EVERYWHERE".

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c_henry Regular Member • Posts: 240
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sylon wrote:

These are straight out of camera just re-sized to reduce file size. Just wanted to test how this tiny combo works. There is quite a bit purple fringing but I guess it can be removed in post processing. I think the total weight of this combo is only around 320g which is perfect, most of these were shot with the camera in single hand while walking about.

It's a great little combo (I've the E-PM1 that I use with the Panny 14mm). Getting rid of the purple fringing is a 1-click fix in LR.

Thanks for posting.

Colin

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sigala1 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,911
Re: 6th image has shutter shock?

Jeff4500 wrote:

Its a Pany Lens, and the Pany cameras do the fringing removal in camera (so do some current Oly I think) but I use either LR or CCPS to fix it very easily. If you want Jpeg you will see fringing in high contrast scenes. RAW files from these 16 mpx cameras are sooo much better than a phone's. On my EP5 the fringing is there against high contrast backgrounds but cleans up with a single click.

There’s no doubt that the E-PM2 has better RAW files than an iPhone 5. The latter doesn’t do RAW!

But, if you put the iPhone 5 into HDR mode (where it automagically merges three photos), the JPEGs it puts out are quite beautiful and on par with high end cameras. And much better than the JPEGs posted to this thread.

sigala1 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,911
Re: 6th image has shutter shock?

Jere Landis wrote:

You always are very critical and controversy follows you everywhere. Why don't you just pass on some of these threads?

People should know how bad those photos look. So they don't make the same mistake.

I hope the OP doesn't take it personally. It's not like he's an engineer for Olympus and it's his fault. He just got duped into the idea that an E-PM2 and an expensive 14mm prime lens would somehow magically create better JPEGs than in iPhone.

Only by complaining will Olympus fix the problems in their cameras. And in fact, Olympus is getting the message because they added zero-second anti-shock, and the E-M10 seems to be doing something different because I have not seen any PF problems from photos that were posted and taken with an E-M10.

sigala1 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,911
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Jere Landis wrote:

Mt question is, if you put these up for inspection and critique, why in the world would you shoot one handed?

There isn't anything wrong with using a 10-ounce camera one-handed.

Hen3ry
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Sigala, doesn't realize, of course, that this is Victoria market…

…named for a Queen and Empress, in that queen of cities, Melbourne, in the state of Victoria, named for said Queen and Empress.

Of course there is fringing of the royal color -- what do you expect with so much queen and empress stuff going on?

To suggest there is purple fringing everywhere is hyperbole, but you will always get it in such areas as the bare tree branches against the blue sky with this little Panny lens (or even big Panny lenses) and the Oly body. You can fix this in PP or minimize it by using an excellent Panny body which will fix it in camera or you can do what I have done -- switch to the Panny body (G6 in my case) and flee to a place where there are no autumn/winter trees, e.g. the wet tropics! (Okay, okay, you still get purple fringing around coconut fronds against the sky. But at least you aren't cold!)

Did I see that Oly is now correcting purple fringing in its latest cameras?

I used the Panny 14 on my E-PM1 and E-PL3 as my standard walk around lens (with the Oly 40-150 in my pocket) for a year and a half with excellent results. I corrected the purple fringing in Photoline and/or PTLens in those photos where it was obvious and ignored it in most cases. Correcting it look a moment.

Very lightweight, compact kit.

In fact, though, the standard 14-42 II R is not much heavier, the IQ at 14 is as good as the Pamny 14, and it is more versatile. It is a little bulkier, of course, and if you have the sun in the frame, it delivers a splodge while the Panny delivers a nice image that actually looks like the sun.

The other thing I noticed, Sylon, is foreground. It needs to be filled! it needs to have interest! In a couple of the pix here, the foreground is simply empty. Crop! Or better -- become more conscious of it and compose to fill it like you did with your first shot.

Cheers, geoff

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