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What lenses do we need?

Started Jun 4, 2014 | Polls
Jorginho Forum Pro • Posts: 15,370
What lenses do we need?

Most of this is because I have my GH4 now and it, together with the EM1, can do pretty good AF-continues in burst mode. But I have a wish, but wonder if that is more universal or that others over here wish something else....So here we go:

Which of the following lenses is most needed for the system?

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A 100-250 F2.8 to F4 Panny AND similar one but with 150-250-275 mm from Oly. Not too big and heavy and quick to focus during bursts.
18.1% 19  votes
A very fast prime like a 200 mm f2.8 or 300 mm f2.8 or so.
6.7% 7  votes
A weathersealed megazoom for video especially, like a 14-140 f2.8 to f4 so uou can shoot video in the rain too
8.6% 9  votes
In general we need more SHG lenses, just like with FTs to make the system more viable for professionals
9.5% 10  votes
A Ultra zoom, like a 300-600 mm (600-1200 mm) of reasonable IQ and weight.
8.6% 9  votes
We need more lenses like the 15 mm Leica, 12-32 mm Panny and 35-100 3.5 to 5.6. Very small and still good!
11.4% 12  votes
None of the above (in which case please tell us what lens you miss or would prefer)
37.1% 39  votes
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Fygaren Regular Member • Posts: 238
Re: 12-25 f1.2
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Think sigma 18-35 with a speedbooster.

Maby it could be made a little smaller..

Id love a lens like that for video and low light indoor photography at home.

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Olydude Regular Member • Posts: 259
Re: What lenses do we need?

We need Sigma, and Tokina to take Micro Four Thirds seriously, we need more small and fast lenses. I want the 7-14 F/2.8 now rather than later.

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OP Jorginho Forum Pro • Posts: 15,370
I want a 10-20 mm f5.6 to f8 for landscapes.
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Olydude wrote:

We need Sigma, and Tokina to take Micro Four Thirds seriously, we need more small and fast lenses. I want the 7-14 F/2.8 now rather than later.

You think it will be small....? I don't. 7-14 f 4 panny is not small either. Why the need for f2.8 btw. I honestly have a bit difficulty in understanding that. But that is probably because I only see this as a landscape lens in which case I will use a tripod mostly anyway.

If it is up to me, they could give me an ultra ultra ultra sharp 12 mm f5.6 for landscapes. Or the same 10-20 mm f5.6 to f8.0 for that. I don't need a shallow DOF for most of my landscapes. I can't have enough DOF. Again: I imagine this lens with a tripod. No OIS needed either. makes it even lighter and cheaper and Oly bodies will stabilise it still too....

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Olydude Regular Member • Posts: 259
Re: I want a 10-20 mm f5.6 to f8 for landscapes.

F/5.6 is not nearly bright enough for anything but broad daylight. Perhaps you don't shoot a lot in low light, but I do.

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C Sean Veteran Member • Posts: 3,423
Re: I want a 10-20 mm f5.6 to f8 for landscapes.
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Panasonic 100mm 2.8 macro lens.

The 45mm 2.8 maybe ideal for medium to large insects, but the lens don't have far enough reach for the smaller critters. Also it save treading on flowers and disturbing the soil when getting the shot.

OP Jorginho Forum Pro • Posts: 15,370
Buy the Tokina f2.5 90 mm MF

C Sean wrote:

Panasonic 100mm 2.8 macro lens.

The 45mm 2.8 maybe ideal for medium to large insects, but the lens don't have far enough reach for the smaller critters. Also it save treading on flowers and disturbing the soil when getting the shot.

Superb bokeh, you do not use AF fro macroshots anyways (well i don't) and the lens is cheap and an absolute fantastic one too. Stop it down to F4 and it is sharp too. The lens was designed with bokeh in mind.

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OP Jorginho Forum Pro • Posts: 15,370
Re: I want a 10-20 mm f5.6 to f8 for landscapes.

Olydude wrote:

F/5.6 is not nearly bright enough for anything but broad daylight. Perhaps you don't shoot a lot in low light, but I do.

How is that important for a landscape? If you shoot a landscape, why would you use f2.8? Most lenses are really sharp at f4 to f5.6 and that is what you want in a landscape (mostly). Same is true for architecture but a tripod is less handy there....

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Mark Thornton Veteran Member • Posts: 4,570
Re: I want a 10-20 mm f5.6 to f8 for landscapes.

Which is very close to the existing 9-18, except presumably you want it sharper in the corners.

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OP Jorginho Forum Pro • Posts: 15,370
Re: I want a 10-20 mm f5.6 to f8 for landscapes.

Mark Thornton wrote:

Which is very close to the existing 9-18, except presumably you want it sharper in the corners.

I want it to be excellent optically. I don't think the 9-18 is excellent at all, but unsure. The Panny seems to be a step up.

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tt321
tt321 Forum Pro • Posts: 13,854
What might look like gaping holes could actually be financial sink holes
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At the moment, we do have a lot of good primes, a good range of slow, cheap and small zooms, and a decent number of fast zooms already. What's missing is a range of f4 (at the long end) zooms of mid quality, mid price, and mid compactness covering a more normal range (not UWA or U-tele, basically a 12-40 plus a 40-150). These correspond with where third-parties are most active in other formats and with OEM items completely missing, it would seem at first glance a good place for them to take a foothold.

However, zooms like these would be entirely missing glamour and 'appeal'. As a result, although there seems to be quite a lot of open water between the prices of 2.8 zooms and 5.6 zooms, esp. in the kit and 40-150 ranges, nobody would join in. Who would buy a 40-150/4 for £500, or a 14-45/4 for £400?

They also make no sense on the NEX so the door to porting a NEX design onto M43 is shut.

(unknown member) Veteran Member • Posts: 3,010
Re: What lenses do we need?

Most of this is because I have my GH4 now and it, together with the EM1, can do pretty good AF-continues in burst mode. But I have a wish, but wonder if that is more universal or that others over here wish something else....So here we go:

Which of the following lenses is most needed for the system?

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OP Jorginho Forum Pro • Posts: 15,370
Re: What lenses do we need?

Tony8232 wrote:

Most of this is because I have my GH4 now and it, together with the EM1, can do pretty good AF-continues in burst mode. But I have a wish, but wonder if that is more universal or that others over here wish something else....So here we go:

Which of the following lenses is most needed for the system?

I have GH4 only. Which good 100-250 mm f4 do you have to offer so I can shoot wildlife that is not posing for me to take a pic?

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Mark Thornton Veteran Member • Posts: 4,570
Re: What lenses do we need?

That is only at most 1 stop faster than the 100-300 you already have.

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JCB123 Senior Member • Posts: 1,274
Re: What lenses do we need?
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Jorginho wrote:

Most of this is because I have my GH4 now and it, together with the EM1, can do pretty good AF-continues in burst mode. But I have a wish, but wonder if that is more universal or that others over here wish something else....So here we go:

Which of the following lenses is most needed for the system?

  1. A better quality lens that goes to 300mm. Doesn't need to be that fast but no slower than f5.6. An f4 would be nice but I would like to keep the weight down to be not much mire than the existing zooms that go out to 300mm
  2. A longer lens than 300mm. Something to 400mm and a 600mm 
  3. A better wide angle zoom than the current 9-18. Should not be too much larger or heavier and should take front mounted filters. The upcomimg Olympus f2.8 wide angle zoom I fear will be much larger and heavier.

Regards

John

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Olydude Regular Member • Posts: 259
Re: I want a 10-20 mm f5.6 to f8 for landscapes.

Jorginho wrote:

Olydude wrote:

F/5.6 is not nearly bright enough for anything but broad daylight. Perhaps you don't shoot a lot in low light, but I do.

How is that important for a landscape? If you shoot a landscape, why would you use f2.8? Most lenses are really sharp at f4 to f5.6 and that is what you want in a landscape (mostly). Same is true for architecture but a tripod is less handy there....

I shoot with available light, it's about as important as it gets particularly when you're shooting after the sun has gone down.

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OP Jorginho Forum Pro • Posts: 15,370
Re: What lenses do we need?

Mark Thornton wrote:

That is only at most 1 stop faster than the 100-300 you already have.

Bad bad focus c....otherwise a decent lens, I agree. The Gh4 stalls after a few shots, 2 fps or so and 20% in focus I think.

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Olydude Regular Member • Posts: 259
Re: I want a 10-20 mm f5.6 to f8 for landscapes.

Olydude wrote:

Jorginho wrote:

Olydude wrote:

F/5.6 is not nearly bright enough for anything but broad daylight. Perhaps you don't shoot a lot in low light, but I do.

How is that important for a landscape? If you shoot a landscape, why would you use f2.8? Most lenses are really sharp at f4 to f5.6 and that is what you want in a landscape (mostly). Same is true for architecture but a tripod is less handy there....

I shoot with available light, it's about as important as it gets particularly when you're shooting after the sun has gone down.

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Dave Lively Senior Member • Posts: 1,938
Re: What lenses do we need?

The lenses I want and would actually buy are:

1 - A good 300mm+ option.  Hopefully the announced Olympus 300mm f4 will fill this gap.

2 - A mid grade standard zoom.  Something between the 14-42 kit zooms and the high grade 12-35 and 12-40 zooms.  Something like the 16-85 for Nikon SLRs or the 14-54 Olympus used to make for 43 SLRs.  It should be just priced in the middle but should also weigh somewhere between the current options and start at 12mm.  Basically the 12-50 but with better optical performance.

I used to think I wanted something longer than 400mm but after experimenting with a 2x teleconverter on a Canon FD L 300mm I now think that is more than I want.

For a system that is only 5 years old that is a pretty short list.

(unknown member) Regular Member • Posts: 221
Re: What lenses do we need?

I wouldn't mind a 12-50mm in collapsable format, doesn't have to be fast  Maybe a 12-50mm f3.5-f5.6 but collapse to pancake size.  12-32 is nice but need more reach for portraits.

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