EF-S 10-18mm review

After some experiments, I've written up an initial review of using the new EF-S 10-18 on my 100D.

It's not the detailed quantitative sort of analysis you'll get here or at DxO, but I hope it gives a feel for using the lens.

I'll sort out some links to some RAW files tomorrow, but if there are any in particular from the article that would be helpful, let me know?

http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/reviews/lenses/canon_efs10-18.html

Hope it's of interest...

Excellent review. Thanks for the effort. I guess I'll be getting one when it's available at the end of June. It's certainly not perfect, but excellent at the price for the limited use I'll give it.

Good stuff...I think I will save my pennies for the 16-35LIS. But for 10mm, I didn't see anything that my EF-M 11-22 can't do just as well. Cheers.

Keith,

Thank you so much for this review.

I pre-ordered one from Amazon the day it was announced with the idea that I would cancel if it was a dog.  Your review and the ones sure to follow will help me make that decision.

Glenn

Thanks for the review Keith.

I wonder how it compares to the EF-M 11-22mm I use on my EOS M?

I find that really sharp, even to the corners.

But I also now have a 70D and wonder if with the EF-S 10-18mm it will be comparable IQ-wise, as the 70D does give me additional features of over the EOS M I would like to use for certain shots.

(some shots with my EF-M 11-22 https://www.flickr.com/photos/lozwilkes/sets/72157635411685041/)

I did some clinical test shots of the EF- M 11-22 at worst case in the Corners a couple of months ago. They are here:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3657489#forum-post-53528921

Thanks for taking the time and effort to do up this review. Have to say that it looks like an amazing addition to my kit, if only I had a crop camera.  I love lenses that are cheap and provide good value for money.

I was just out, and had the 100D with me in case the sun came out

I've added a few more images, including one with the sun just out of shot, looking for flare.

Leigh A. Wax wrote:

Makes it clear as to why the 10-22 will remain in the "line-up"!

Leigh

www.leighwax.com

Why? In what way does it make it clear?

Genuine enquiry, since I don't have a 10-22 to test...

Thanks Keith,

This could be a great addition to my 15-85 and since the 10-18 has 67mm thread I can use the filter of my 70-200.

BTW that guy should have taken a plunge in the canal

Abu Mahendra wrote:

Good stuff...I think I will save my pennies for the 16-35LIS. But for 10mm, I didn't see anything that my EF-M 11-22 can't do just as well. Cheers.

It wasn't meant to replace the EF-M 11-22 or compete with it. It was designed as a good quality inexpensive UWA for crop sensor DSLRs. The quality of the EF-M 11-22 is insignificant for users of the 100D, 700D, 70D, 7D, etc. The quality of the EF-S 10-18 is important.

needmoretoys wrote:

Abu Mahendra wrote:

Good stuff...I think I will save my pennies for the 16-35LIS. But for 10mm, I didn't see anything that my EF-M 11-22 can't do just as well. Cheers.

It wasn't meant to replace the EF-M 11-22 or compete with it. It was designed as a good quality inexpensive UWA for crop sensor DSLRs. The quality of the EF-M 11-22 is insignificant for users of the 100D, 700D, 70D, 7D, etc. The quality of the EF-S 10-18 is important.

But it is significant for EOS M users, as they now have another choice as they can use the EF-S 10-18 via an adaptor or buy the EF-M 11-22

If you have the adaptor, then the 10-18 is not only cheaper, but it is at least officially available in the USA.

PQ wise, the EF-M 11-22 will win from what I have seen so far. But for cost, versatility and availability, the EF-S 10-18 wins.  So it isn't a straightforward choice, for the EOS M user at least.

Lawrencew wrote:

needmoretoys wrote:

Abu Mahendra wrote:

Good stuff...I think I will save my pennies for the 16-35LIS. But for 10mm, I didn't see anything that my EF-M 11-22 can't do just as well. Cheers.

It wasn't meant to replace the EF-M 11-22 or compete with it. It was designed as a good quality inexpensive UWA for crop sensor DSLRs. The quality of the EF-M 11-22 is insignificant for users of the 100D, 700D, 70D, 7D, etc. The quality of the EF-S 10-18 is important.

But it is significant for EOS M users, as they now have another choice as they can use the EF-S 10-18 via an adaptor or buy the EF-M 11-22

Exactly! Just because it is insignificant to you, doesn't mean it is irrelevant to everyone else.

Abu Mahendra wrote:

Good stuff...I think I will save my pennies for the 16-35LIS. But for 10mm, I didn't see anything that my EF-M 11-22 can't do just as well. Cheers.

It wasn't meant to replace the EF-M 11-22 or compete with it. It was designed as a good quality inexpensive UWA for crop sensor DSLRs. The quality of the EF-M 11-22 is insignificant for users of the 100D, 700D, 70D, 7D, etc. The quality of the EF-S 10-18 is important.

Wrong. I own a 650D. It does matter, and it does make a difference to me. For someone in my shoes who also owns an M--and I am not the only one--the new lens offers on paper nothing over the other lens except 10mm and price, but since I already own the other lens price is removed from the equation.

I must of missed it but you please show me where you found that the 10-22 or 11-22 has faster focus then the 10-18?

Dave

davel33 wrote:

I must of missed it but you please show me where you found that the 10-22 or 11-22 has faster focus then the 10-18?

Dave

Dave,

I had to read it 3 times myself, but he is referring to the fact that the 10-22 is a f/3.5 lens, the 11-22 is and f/4 and the 10-18 is an f/4.5 lens, all at their widest focal length.

It has nothing to do with focus speed. I would expect the 10-18 STM to beat the 10-22 on  a SL1 or 70D (but no one has tried it yet), but have no idea how the 11-22 would do on an EOS-M.

Glenn

Oldpanda wrote:

davel33 wrote:

I must of missed it but you please show me where you found that the 10-22 or 11-22 has faster focus then the 10-18?

Dave

Dave,

I had to read it 3 times myself, but he is referring to the fact that the 10-22 is a f/3.5 lens, the 11-22 is and f/4 and the 10-18 is an f/4.5 lens, all at their widest focal length.

It has nothing to do with focus speed. I would expect the 10-18 STM to beat the 10-22 on a SL1 or 70D (but no one has tried it yet), but have no idea how the 11-22 would do on an EOS-M.

Glenn

Thank you, I am not sure why I missed that, but who knows.

Dave

Abu Mahendra wrote:

Abu Mahendra wrote:

Good stuff...I think I will save my pennies for the 16-35LIS. But for 10mm, I didn't see anything that my EF-M 11-22 can't do just as well. Cheers.

It wasn't meant to replace the EF-M 11-22 or compete with it. It was designed as a good quality inexpensive UWA for crop sensor DSLRs. The quality of the EF-M 11-22 is insignificant for users of the 100D, 700D, 70D, 7D, etc. The quality of the EF-S 10-18 is important.

Wrong. I own a 650D. It does matter, and it does make a difference to me. For someone in my shoes who also owns an M--and I am not the only one--the new lens offers on paper nothing over the other lens except 10mm and price, but since I already own the other lens price is removed from the equation.

So, how well does your EF-M 11-22 work on your 650D?