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Ok, can someone please explain Olympus' lineup to me?

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Howard
Howard Senior Member • Posts: 1,885
Ok, can someone please explain Olympus' lineup to me?

Hi,

I have only started looking into micro 4/3 recently. I understand Olympus and Panasonic are the strongest players in this field. However, I find it hard to understand Olympus' naming convention -- such as E-P2, E-P3, E-PL6, E-PM2, OMD E-M1 .. what do these acronyms stand for?

Thanks,

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Guy Parsons
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Re: Ok, can someone please explain Olympus' lineup to me?
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Howard wrote:

Hi,

I have only started looking into micro 4/3 recently. I understand Olympus and Panasonic are the strongest players in this field. However, I find it hard to understand Olympus' naming convention -- such as E-P2, E-P3, E-PL6, E-PM2, OMD E-M1 .. what do these acronyms stand for?

To be painfully and pathetically pedantic, they are initials and not acronyms....

Anyhoo the Pen line of cameras consists of..

E-Px the traditional top end Pen

E-PLx the "Lite" Pen, usually with most useful features anyway, best value for money.

E-PMx the "Mini" Pen, cut down to as small as they dare. But still with good firmware features.

The OM-D line consists of confusion....

E-M1 top of the line, best for users of old 4/3 lenses.

E-M5 is meant to be mid-range but somehow is in an odd position.

E-M10 is the "Lite" ones of the three but again has all the good firmware and in fact is later than any so has the best firmware features. Best value for money.

The Pen name harks back to the old days of half frame Pen FT cameras, nostalgia kick for some of the old folk. Add-on viewfinders if needed.

The OM-D line harks back to the OM film cameras that were totally excellent but killed off when they didn't seem to want to pursue the ever growing AF film camera technology. Built-in viewfinders.

Mylinks page may help digging in the info maze. There's an Olympus history link there somewhere.

Regards...... Guy

Guy Parsons
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More.

Forgot to say that the "E-" prefix means their system camera lines. That's a leftover from maybe 10 years ago when the C-, D- and E- name prefixes made logical sense. All names changed except that the E- prefix stayed to today at least.

Regards..... Guy

Pete_CSCS Veteran Member • Posts: 3,617
I'll add...

... that the OM-D line of Oly cameras are SLR-shaped with either built-in or optional grips, so a bit bulkier than the Pen cameras.  Many share the same sensors and firmware but the different models (as you might expect) have different feature sets.

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Howard
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Re: Ok, can someone please explain Olympus' lineup to me?

Very useful, thanks, Guy.

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Olydude Regular Member • Posts: 259
Re: Ok, can someone please explain Olympus' lineup to me?

The PEN, PEN Lite and PEN Mini cameras are Olympus PEN rangefinder style cameras, the PEN Mini fits in as the miniature version.The OMD cameras are Olympus OM SLR styled cameras, the E-M10 fits in as the "mini" DSLR.

There wasn't initially intended to be a different feature set between the flagship PEN and flagship OMD, however over time the OMD has gained a more extensive feature set and the PEN has dropped to a second tier camera.

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Glen Barrington
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And I'll add to that . . .
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Pete_CSCS wrote:

... that the OM-D line of Oly cameras are SLR-shaped with either built-in or optional grips, so a bit bulkier than the Pen cameras. Many share the same sensors and firmware but the different models (as you might expect) have different feature sets.

I just got rid of my E30 43s DSLR to buy the OMD E-M10.  The OMD series cameras offer a VERY DSLR like experience. I found the transition to be very painless.  Furthermore, The OMD E-M10 offers the BEST manual focus experience I've had since moving to digital. I don't know if it is the best MF available, but I do know it is the best I've used.  If there is better, it must be very good indeed!

I have written about it in my personal blog linked below in my signature.  (It was in March or April of this year.)

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Pete_CSCS Veteran Member • Posts: 3,617
Congratulation Glen!
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Glen Barrington wrote:

Pete_CSCS wrote:

... that the OM-D line of Oly cameras are SLR-shaped with either built-in or optional grips, so a bit bulkier than the Pen cameras. Many share the same sensors and firmware but the different models (as you might expect) have different feature sets.

I just got rid of my E30 43s DSLR to buy the OMD E-M10. The OMD series cameras offer a VERY DSLR like experience. I found the transition to be very painless. Furthermore, The OMD E-M10 offers the BEST manual focus experience I've had since moving to digital. I don't know if it is the best MF available, but I do know it is the best I've used. If there is better, it must be very good indeed!

I have written about it in my personal blog linked below in my signature. (It was in March or April of this year.)

And best of luck with your new E-M10!  Yes manual focus is easier now than it was with the early E-system DSLRs like my E-500.  However, I still miss my split image focusing screen I had on my film SLRs (Konica for me).  That made MF quick and foolproof even at night.

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Howard
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some models discontinued?

H, sorry for bumping this thread, but I just found out that some of Olympus' "Pen" models have been discontinued. How does that change Olympus' roadmap?

I see that the E-PM2 kit with the 14-42 lens is selling for around $300 in some places, this is a pretty good price. Do you think I should be concerned to buy a discontinued model?

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Guy Parsons
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Re: some models discontinued?

Howard wrote:

H, sorry for bumping this thread, but I just found out that some of Olympus' "Pen" models have been discontinued. How does that change Olympus' roadmap?

I see that the E-PM2 kit with the 14-42 lens is selling for around $300 in some places, this is a pretty good price. Do you think I should be concerned to buy a discontinued model?

Yes, I noticed that many shops in Australia now don't list the E-PM2, is there an E-PM3 lurking in the shadows?

Anyway, that 16MP sensor is a gem and handled properly gives the same image quality as any of the OM-D line. It's  bargain.

Regards...... Guy

Cychen Regular Member • Posts: 243
Re: some models discontinued?

Howard wrote:

H, sorry for bumping this thread, but I just found out that some of Olympus' "Pen" models have been discontinued. How does that change Olympus' roadmap?

I see that the E-PM2 kit with the 14-42 lens is selling for around $300 in some places, this is a pretty good price. Do you think I should be concerned to buy a discontinued model?

In any case, when you jump onto the M43 ship, make sure you buy the later models for Olympus. It is because they use a newer sensor and AF technology than previous models. All OMDs are recommended. For the Pen series, please buy E-P5, EPL5/6, or the EPM2.

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Jay Siegel
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retro roots to Olympus camera names
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The first PEN SLR was the Olympus PEN-F and then PEN-FT.  This was a half-frame pentaprism camera with a vertical orientation.  Very small and lightweight (for it's time in the 1960's).

The first full frame Olympus SLR came out in 1971 and was called the M-1 which conflicted with Leica's brand, so they changed the name to OM-1.  There was an OM-2, 3, and 4 before they stopped making that camera line.  The OM-D E-M5 would be linked to this lineage D for digital and 5th in the numbering. and the new top of the line OM-D E-M1 relates bake to the first full frame SLR which was the M1.

Olympus brought out several budget SLR's the OMg and the OM10. So, the OM-D E-M10 is a retro node to that line of SLR's.

The original Olympus SLR's were very small and lightweight and renown for the optics, as are the current digital M43rd cameras.

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Guy Parsons
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History of Olympus

An interesting browse is the official history at http://www.olympus-global.com/en/corc/history/

Also Blunty's visit to the Oly museum https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RWOS0U-DFY

Regards...... Guy

Jay Siegel
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Re: History of Olympus -thanks for the URL's (n/t)
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Guy Parsons
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More history....

An interesting page at http://www.olympus-global.com/en/corc/history/story/about/name/

We could have been using Takachiho cameras if they hadn't changed the company name back in 1949.

Regards..... Guy

Hen3ry
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Good information from Guy

As a marketing guru, well, not too sure about the marketing part and the guru is a title I only just thought of assigning to myself, actually the "marketing" is genuine and I have written a book so I might be a guru if I market it properly…

I suspect the OMD EM5 is for the high jump -- it was the first of the line but is now in the middle of the EM10 under it and the EM1 above it. Seems to me the EM5 tested the water but now is in a niche that it too small because of the two newer models above and below. So I wouldn't be surprised to see it quietly dropped. People keep asking here "what will the next EM5 be like?" -- the answer for me is "the EM1 is already here."

I would suspect the E-Px line has also reached the end of its life -- replaced by the OMD line, unless Olympus follows the lead of Panasonic with the GX7 and introduces an E-Px model with an EVF within the oblong shape.

I'm with Guy in respect of the E-PL5/6 -- certainly the best value/feature list of the whole Olympus line and if a new model comes out with the 3-way IBIS featured in the EM10 it will be a knockout model. And if they squeezed in a built-in EVF… No, that might be too much of an ask. But a built-in flash would be nice at this level.

The E-PM2 is under the E-PL5/6. That's in a tricky situation with the Panasonic GM1 as a challenger on one side and the new top end compacts pushing it hard in many respects on the other. It is a lot cheaper then either, but when these new models become mature and prices drop, the E-PM2 will be under a lot of pressure. And, of course, there is pressure from above on it from the E-PL5/6 which is not that much more expensive.

So there you go, a totally subject assessment which probably has no value to anyone but hey, I got it off my chest and this is the internet!

Cheers, geoff

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