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Best compact 4/3 camera with quality zoom

Started May 25, 2014 | Discussions
jalywol
jalywol Forum Pro • Posts: 12,302
Re: Best compact 4/3 camera with quality zoom
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Tony8232 wrote:

How much are you willing to spend. The E-PM2 two lens kit is an amazing bargain. Unlike the GX1 you can add a viewfinder if you are so inclined. The IQ is better than the Panasonic. However no PSAM mode dial. But value for money there is no contest. The kit lens is very good and the 40-150mm zoom makes this an extremely portable and versatile system. Even if the two lens kit was priced the same as the GX1 I would buy it for the better IQ and the extra lens. This is assuming you are shooting stills primarily.

The EPM2 IQ is not better than the GM1. The JPGs are a little prettier, if you plan to use them, but not by much (and I prefer the color signature of the GM1, actually).  High ISO on the GM1 is a tiny bit better than the EPM2...and the GM1 has no shutter shock.

Six of one half dozen of another.  I traded my EPM2 in and ended up with the GM1, which I like better, in spite of the price differential. The OP would not go wrong with either.

-J

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Re: Best compact 4/3 camera with quality zoom

Howard wrote:

Hi,

I am sure this topic has been discussed before, but the information I found seems to be a bit outdated.

I have been a long time SLR/DSLR user. But lately the idea of having a more portable system seems more and more appealing to me. To be sure, I will still keep my DSLR system. In fact, I will have to use my telephoto lens (a rather large 300mm f/2.8 lens with extenders). But for general purpose -- landscape, street scene, people, even macro -- a small camera with 1 lens sounds pretty good to me.

Which camera and lens kit would you recommend? I am looking at the Olympus E-PM2 with the 14-42 lens kit, would this be a good choice? Is the lens good?

Again, I mainly want this system to supplement rather than replace my DSLR system, please keep that in mind when you make recommendations.

Thanks in advance,

Whatever you get, make sure you try your 300 2.8 on it......you might get a surprise.

Bhima78 Senior Member • Posts: 2,850
EPM2 is the perfect supplement camera for the money.
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While I agree with the others suggesting the GM1, it is about 3 times as expensive as the EPM2. You can find the PM2 for $300 and below with lens very often.

Here is a factory certified refurb EPM2 with lens for $249... plus you get 20% off if you buy it by tomorrow using the code SUMMER

http://www.getolympus.com/us/en/outlet/reconditioned-cameras/e-pm2-white-14-42mm-2r-silver-reconditioned.html

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Ido Scharf
Ido Scharf Veteran Member • Posts: 5,216
Definitely get a GM1 if you can afford it
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It would make for the biggest difference in size, yet quality is incredible and controls are sufficient.

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(unknown member) Veteran Member • Posts: 3,010
Re: Best compact 4/3 camera with quality zoom

Tony8232 wrote:

How much are you willing to spend. The E-PM2 two lens kit is an amazing bargain. Unlike the GX1 you can add a viewfinder if you are so inclined. The IQ is better than the Panasonic. However no PSAM mode dial. But value for money there is no contest. The kit lens is very good and the 40-150mm zoom makes this an extremely portable and versatile system. Even if the two lens kit was priced the same as the GX1 I would buy it for the better IQ and the extra lens. This is assuming you are shooting stills primarily.

The EPM2 IQ is not better than the GM1. The JPGs are a little prettier, if you plan to use them, but not by much (and I prefer the color signature of the GM1, actually).  High ISO on the GM1 is a tiny bit better than the EPM2...and the GM1 has no shutter shock.

Six of one half dozen of another.  I traded my EPM2 in and ended up with the GM1, which I like better, in spite of the price differential. The OP would not go wrong with either.

-J

http://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-GM1-versus-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-GX7-versus-Olympus-PEN-E-PM2___920_901_840
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Paulmorgan Veteran Member • Posts: 9,499
Re: Best compact 4/3 camera with quality zoom

Howard wrote:

Hi,

I am sure this topic has been discussed before, but the information I found seems to be a bit outdated.

I have been a long time SLR/DSLR user. But lately the idea of having a more portable system seems more and more appealing to me. To be sure, I will still keep my DSLR system. In fact, I will have to use my telephoto lens (a rather large 300mm f/2.8 lens with extenders). But for general purpose -- landscape, street scene, people, even macro -- a small camera with 1 lens sounds pretty good to me.

Which camera and lens kit would you recommend? I am looking at the Olympus E-PM2 with the 14-42 lens kit, would this be a good choice? Is the lens good?

Again, I mainly want this system to supplement rather than replace my DSLR system, please keep that in mind when you make recommendations.

Thanks in advance,

If you want just a small camera with a single lens, why go M4/3.

Surely you would be better of with a compact.

Have a look at the Olympus Stylus 1.

It has a great EVF (as found on the EM5)

It has a great touch screen and processing engine (as found in the EM5)

It has a 28-300mm f2.8 constant aperture lens

And it will cover all your needs including macro.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGlVfuxz6IU

Howard
OP Howard Senior Member • Posts: 1,885
Re: Best compact 4/3 camera with quality zoom

Thanks but a fixed lens camera will limit any future expansion opportunities.

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Paulmorgan Veteran Member • Posts: 9,499
Re: Best compact 4/3 camera with quality zoom

Howard wrote:

Thanks but a fixed lens camera will limit any future expansion opportunities.

In that case then either the EM5/10, EP5 or the GX7.

I would not bother with the GM1 or EPM2 taking the above list into consideration as your planing on expanding and the GM1 would be a total dead end.

s_grins
s_grins Forum Pro • Posts: 14,011
Re: Best compact 4/3 camera with quality zoom

Paulmorgan wrote:

Howard wrote:

Hi,

I am sure this topic has been discussed before, but the information I found seems to be a bit outdated.

I have been a long time SLR/DSLR user. But lately the idea of having a more portable system seems more and more appealing to me. To be sure, I will still keep my DSLR system. In fact, I will have to use my telephoto lens (a rather large 300mm f/2.8 lens with extenders). But for general purpose -- landscape, street scene, people, even macro -- a small camera with 1 lens sounds pretty good to me.

Which camera and lens kit would you recommend? I am looking at the Olympus E-PM2 with the 14-42 lens kit, would this be a good choice? Is the lens good?

Again, I mainly want this system to supplement rather than replace my DSLR system, please keep that in mind when you make recommendations.

Thanks in advance,

If you want just a small camera with a single lens, why go M4/3.

Surely you would be better of with a compact.

Have a look at the Olympus Stylus 1.

It has a great EVF (as found on the EM5)

It has a great touch screen and processing engine (as found in the EM5)

It has a 28-300mm f2.8 constant aperture lens

And it will cover all your needs including macro.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGlVfuxz6IU

I would agree with you entirely if you mentioned that Oly Stylus 1 is not "pocketable" - does not go into a pocket as a soap tray

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Ulric Veteran Member • Posts: 4,559
Re: Best compact 4/3 camera with quality zoom

Paulmorgan wrote:

Howard wrote:

Thanks but a fixed lens camera will limit any future expansion opportunities.

In that case then either the EM5/10, EP5 or the GX7.

I would not bother with the GM1 or EPM2 taking the above list into consideration as your planing on expanding and the GM1 would be a total dead end.

Of course it wouldn't be a dead end. I regularly use my GM1 with the 12-32 kit zoom and my 14/2.5, 20/1.7, 45/1.8 primes. All compact lenses which go fine with the compact body, as would the 17/1.8, 12/2.0 which I don't have, and the 15/1.7 which I plan to get. I also sometimes use it with the 75/1.8 and 12-50 (for "macro") and old legacy lenses on a focal length reducer.

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Eric Nepean
Eric Nepean Veteran Member • Posts: 6,209
Re: Best compact 4/3 camera with quality zoom

Paulmorgan wrote:

Howard wrote:

Thanks but a fixed lens camera will limit any future expansion opportunities.

In that case then either the EM5/10, EP5 or the GX7.

I would not bother with the GM1 or EPM2 taking the above list into consideration as your planing on expanding and the GM1 would be a total dead end.

I do not see the GM1 as a dead end at all. Its a very useful niche.

I want one big camera, and and one small camera, and they must share the same lenses, and the same user interface.

The GX1 used to be my small camera, now it is the GM1.

The G5 is my big camera; it will migrate to something better soon, G6, GH4 and GX7 are not exactly what I want so I will wait a bit.

Both cameras share all lenses, all though some lenses are are more practical on one or the other -  to be expected.

Looking at the the GM1 in perspective of the last few years, and having used it for a bit, I think it is destined to become a classic - great images, small package, advanced feature set, well integrated, good connectivity, mature flexible straightforward user interface.

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