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E-PM2/14-42 kit on sale again - $199

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Klarno
Klarno Veteran Member • Posts: 4,239
E-PM2/14-42 kit on sale again - $199
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Newegg on eBay is selling the white E-PM2 with 14-42 kit for $199 again. Check under eBay's daily deals.

Amazing little camera, and even better at that price.

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Frank Palmisano Forum Member • Posts: 79
Re: E-PM2/14-42 kit on sale again - $199

Klarno wrote:

Newegg on eBay is selling the white E-PM2 with 14-42 kit for $199 again. Check under eBay's daily deals.

Amazing little camera, and even better at that price.

Thanks, I see they still have some available. My wife just purchased the black two lens kit with an 8gb flashair card and is now thinking of picking up the white kit for 199.

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mrkarisma Regular Member • Posts: 131
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I bought it, but regret it badly. The shutter-shock issue makes it useless unless you always shoot above 1/250s.. Really sad for a camera that could have been great.

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Jere Landis Senior Member • Posts: 1,933
Re: E-PM2/14-42 kit on sale again - $199

Then you are saying all EPM2s are worthless, how ridiculous!

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rmxa Junior Member • Posts: 44
Re: E-PM2/14-42 kit on sale again - $199

mrkarisma wrote:

I bought it, but regret it badly. The shutter-shock issue makes it useless unless you always shoot above 1/250s.. Really sad for a camera that could have been great.

What lens do you have a problem with and have you set the existing Anti-shock option to 1/8?

Ming Thein disabled IBIS completely and took multiple shots when he shot with the E-PM1:

http://blog.mingthein.com/2012/03/15/long-term-review-the-olympus-e-pm1-pen-mini/

You’re probably wondering why I don’t use the stabilizer: basically, it’s pretty much useless. I have much better results by shooting fast bursts and keeping the middle image. Turning the stabilizer on creates an odd double image effect that I suspect is an artifact of not being fully able to compensate for the shutter recoil. At higher shutter speeds, you shouldn’t be using stabilization at all on any camera, because it won’t react fast enough.

He wasn't aware of the anti-shock setting at the time though.

I get good results with lower shutter speeds although the Sigma primes I use are a bit heavier than the kit lens. I do get some slight blurring at 100% at times but I can't really rule out hand or subject motion in those cases - the E-PM2 IBIS is not as sophisticated as those on the newer models. I don't print large so it's not a big deal for me.

And $199 is low-end to mid-range point and shoot territory - I actually bought a second one as backup.

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mrkarisma wrote:

I bought it, but regret it badly. The shutter-shock issue makes it useless unless you always shoot above 1/250s.. Really sad for a camera that could have been great.

$199 is a Fanatics price, I was so tempted to buy, except 3 things:

1. I hate external attach flash.  It was one of the reason why I sold my NEX

2. Super smooth surface without grip = disaster waiting to happen

3. stupid wide-screen LCD that result in image no bigger than a 2.4" LCD

#3 is something very personal, I just can't go back to smallish LCD.  I reallly wish Olympus would go back to the more traditional 3:2 LCD it use in the older Olympus E-PL2.  After using 3" LCD from my canon dslr, eos-m, and panasonic, it is too hard to go back down in size.

But I will missed out on E-PM2 fantastic SENSOR.  Walking away from this deal is hard, but I'm hoping for a Panasonic GF6 clearance.  That camera has worst ISO, but I prefer a nice solid grip, build-in flash, and a real BIG 3" LCD in 3:2 ratio.  (finger crossed....)

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ORLY?

This is my primary and only MFT camera, never had any issues with shutter shock, use the 1/8 second delay if you have trouble with it on long lenses.

greg mclemore Contributing Member • Posts: 801
Re: Almost Bought One, but I hate (1) Attach Flash (2) Lack of Grip (3) smallish LCD (when view)

I have been wanting to get another olympus, so i saw the deal and brought one, great little camera.

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Phillip Tornero Contributing Member • Posts: 601
Re: E-PM2/14-42 kit on sale again - $199

I have gone to the e-bay site but found the camera price to be 299.00 have I missed the sale?

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sigala1 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,911
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mrkarisma wrote:

I bought it, but regret it badly. The shutter-shock issue makes it useless unless you always shoot above 1/250s.. Really sad for a camera that could have been great.

If you accept the fact that the camera always has extra 1/8 sec shutter lag (from using the anti-shock feature), and that it doesn't have any image stabilization (beause when you turn on IS on these cameras you get BLURRIER photos than leaving it off), then you may be happy with it.

You will be very disappointed if you believe that the camera has "Image Stablization" that gives you sharper handheld photos.

traveler_101 Senior Member • Posts: 2,203
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sylon wrote:

ORLY?

This is my primary and only MFT camera, never had any issues with shutter shock, use the 1/8 second delay if you have trouble with it on long lenses.

Same here--my only m43 camera. I tend to shoot with high shutter speeds anyway, but I've been leaving the stabilisation on. Out of 70 shots I just took Saturday with the 25/1.8 lens I tossed two away for lack of clarity. And I'm not sure it was shutter shock; I might have simply failed to refocus.

Check it out. Click for detailed view.

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JimMoyer
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Re: E-PM2/14-42 kit on sale again - $199

I bought one for $199 as a backup to my E-M1.  I shot an event on Sunday with the 12-40 Oly on the E-M1 and the less expensive 40-150 Oly on the E-PM2.  This worked well as I had coverage from 12mm to 150mm for an event in the low light environment of a church where my movement was limited.  I may have to buy an EVF, as that is my preference, but the price for a µ43 with the high quality sensor makes it a bargain as a second camera body.

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traveler_101 Senior Member • Posts: 2,203
Re: E-PM2/14-42 kit on sale again - $199

JimMoyer wrote:

I may have to buy an EVF, as that is my preference, but the price for a µ43 with the high quality sensor makes it a bargain as a second camera body.

EVF is good to have! I use mine some of the time . . . especially in bright sunlight, of course, but only rarely inside or in the evening. I have the VF-2 which is very good--and probably good enough for this camera. Should be available at reasonable prices now.

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I disagree.  Especially at low shutter speeds the IBIS really helps out a lot.   Have a look at the 4 shots below, first 2 with IS on and last 2 with IS off.  First photo looks pretty sharp, second one has a little shake but the 2 with IS off are a lot worse.   Of course this is not a scientific test and but I am seeing good results with IS off, even shooting at less than 1/10 shutter speeds hand held.

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sigala1 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,911
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The shutter shock with IBIS turned on seems to kick in at around 1/60 sec and faster (but I haven't tested it for each shutter speed, so caveat emptor). Your examples are at 1/8 sec.

I think the E-PM2 with the kit lens produces really GREAT image quality for only $199 (especially if you know how to edit out the purple fringing in Lightroom), but I don't want anyone to be deceived into thinking that it's camaera with well-functioning image stabilization.

One can make an argument that it's not worth paying an extra $600 for an E-P5 (which now has no shutter shock after the firmware update) which has identical image quality (and is also less portable because it weighs a lot more).

levimax Forum Member • Posts: 57
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I have been using an e-pm2 for the last 18 months.  It is a nice camera with great image quality but shutter shock, especially on longer lenses (oly 45mm 1.8 or longer for me) is an issue.  I learned to overcome this for the most part using a combination of 1/8 second anti shock and higher shutter speeds.  However when I saw the "0 second anti shock" update available for the e-p5 with the prices for used or refurbished ones now around $550 I bought one.  So far I have been very impressed with the e-p5 (I all ready owned a VF-4) and depending on how you use it the extra money for the e-p5 may be well worth it.

The main advantages of the e-p5 that really do make a difference in "actual" IQ (the sensors are the same so the theoretical IQ is the same) is the 5-axis stabilization (which works unbelievably better than 2-axis), "live view of the stabilized image" which makes manual focus adjustments using long lenses infinitely easier and more accurate, and the "0 second anti-shock" which allows me to shoot longer lenses at 1/125 instead of 1/640 which allows for lower iso / stopping down both of which can vastly improve IQ.

If you primarily shoot wider lenses the e-pm2 for $199 is a fantastic deal.  If you like to shoot longer lenses I think the extra $350 for the e-p5 is well worth it.  The real wild card is if Oly is going to release the "0 second update" for the e-pm2.  If they ever did that would change everything.

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sigala1 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,911
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levimax wrote:

If you primarily shoot wider lenses the e-pm2 for $199 is a fantastic deal. If you like to shoot longer lenses I think the extra $350 for the e-p5 is well worth it. The real wild card is if Oly is going to release the "0 second update" for the e-pm2. If they ever did that would change everything.

Ha ha. Oly clearly has no intent to release this update for cameras that are no longer current. It's more profitable for Olympus if you upgrade to a new E-P5.

Which is too bad, the E-PM2 is really nice that it's so small and light compared to the bigger and heavier cameras.

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