Any hidden improvement after D800 FW update?

Started May 13, 2014 | Discussions
Photo Pete Veteran Member • Posts: 3,996
Re: Any hidden improvement after D800 FW update?

I'd like to know if anyone noticed some improvement that has not been listed in the Nikon announcement.

In particular if live view has been in some way improved..AF speed in live view mode is the same?

Quality of the zoom-in whyle manual focusing in live view has improved?

I also have to ceck other bugs like focusing fast lenses with the af-assist light from the hot-shoe mounted flash but can't access my camera till next week so any information is very wellcome.

Thx to everyone!

Has Nikon ever introduced hidden features in a firmware update? Surely it would put them in a legally awkward situation if they did and the updating user didn't actually want the change.
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OP Simone S Regular Member • Posts: 390
Re: Any hidden improvement after D800 FW update?

Yes They just called me today and they told me they will update the firmware in both cameras!

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Re: Any hidden improvement after D800 FW update?

Photo Pete wrote:

Has Nikon ever introduced hidden features in a firmware update? Surely it would put them in a legally awkward situation if they did and the updating user didn't actually want the change.
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Photo Pete

Hi Pete, they might not be technically "hidden" but to someone like myself, who sometimes can't see the forest for the trees, they aren't always obvious. For example, the post by xtm on using the rec button to set ISO, I read the Nikon page on changes but missed the significance of this so I am glad to see a post like this.

Some cool images in your gallery by the way,

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Photo Pete Veteran Member • Posts: 3,996
Re: Any hidden improvement after D800 FW update?

Photo Pete wrote:

Has Nikon ever introduced hidden features in a firmware update? Surely it would put them in a legally awkward situation if they did and the updating user didn't actually want the change.
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Photo Pete

Hi Pete, they might not be technically "hidden" but to someone like myself, who sometimes can't see the forest for the trees, they aren't always obvious. For example, the post by xtm on using the rec button to set ISO, I read the Nikon page on changes but missed the significance of this so I am glad to see a post like this.

Some cool images in your gallery by the way,

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Pete

Ah. I misunderstood. The query was whether there are any less obvious advantages of the changes they've made rather than if there are any changes they've made without announcing them.

I'll be upgrading over the next couple of days and am also keen to discover how the changes can be best used.

Very pleased to have trap focus back.

Nikon have been a bit slow on the firmware update but it's welcome. Now if they could only solve the AF assist focus issue and the slight shift in AF fine tune with different light colour temperature!
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Simon Garrett Veteran Member • Posts: 5,857
Re: Yes, absolutely!

bgbs wrote:

I know you're trying to be funny, but it's a thumbs-down fail.

Made me laugh, so I'll give it a thumbs-up success!

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abcdefghijklmnop Senior Member • Posts: 1,098
Re: Any hidden improvement after D800 FW update?

Photo Pete wrote:

Has Nikon ever introduced hidden features in a firmware update? Surely it would put them in a legally awkward situation if they did and the updating user didn't actually want the change.
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Photo Pete

Yes.

It is apparent you have not read the mandated user agreement.

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Svetoslav Popov Forum Member • Posts: 75
Re: Yes, absolutely!
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When *i* feel the need to troll here, i take a deep breath and do it just in my head, without annoying other people. Try it, really works!

Photo Pete Veteran Member • Posts: 3,996
Re: Any hidden improvement after D800 FW update?

Photo Pete wrote:

Has Nikon ever introduced hidden features in a firmware update? Surely it would put them in a legally awkward situation if they did and the updating user didn't actually want the change.
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Photo Pete

Yes.

It is apparent you have not read the mandated user agreement.

abcdefghijklmnop

You are only giving us half the story here

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Simon Garrett Veteran Member • Posts: 5,857
Re: Yes, absolutely!

Svetoslav Popov wrote:

When *i* feel the need to troll here, i take a deep breath and do it just in my head, without annoying other people. Try it, really works!

I agree, but I think there's a difference between trolling and light humour. I read Ralf Ronander's post at the latter.

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Event_shooter Senior Member • Posts: 1,083
White Balance

I upgraded the firmware and took my standard in house shot of the kitchen ( ( at least it's not a cat ) and it seems much more true to color in a low light room. Previous I would get heavy yellow saturation, not now with upgrade.

PatrickP Contributing Member • Posts: 716
Re: White Balance

Event_shooter wrote:

I upgraded the firmware and took my standard in house shot of the kitchen ( ( at least it's not a cat ) and it seems much more true to color in a low light room. Previous I would get heavy yellow saturation, not now with upgrade.

Well same here. I think in general my D800E has gotten a bit more responsive (speed optimization?) and the color look a little nicer (esp in Auto WB in indoor situations) than it used to. It could well be the AWB improvement from D610/Df going into this D800/E firmware upgrade.

There is likely a lot of improvement that went into this firmware upgrade that went undocumented.  I can smell a D800S (or called D810) around the corner very soon.

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OP Simone S Regular Member • Posts: 390
Re: White Balance

Great!

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Bunza Contributing Member • Posts: 528
Re: Any hidden improvement after D800 FW update?

Nikon17 wrote:

  • bocajrs wrote:

Simone S wrote:

Why don't you read my post again?

Yes I read your post - What's the point if you even don't have access to your camera. Update your firmware when your have your camera and find out for yourself.

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Typical Riquelme behavior

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T O Shooter Veteran Member • Posts: 7,906
Could you explain

PatrickP wrote:

Event_shooter wrote:

I upgraded the firmware and took my standard in house shot of the kitchen ( ( at least it's not a cat ) and it seems much more true to color in a low light room. Previous I would get heavy yellow saturation, not now with upgrade.

Well same here. I think in general my D800E has gotten a bit more responsive (speed optimization?)

Could you explain what you're finding??  What is "speed optimization"?

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I see it. Don't you?

I suspect they applied a placebo shiftto all settings.  

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cosmicnode Senior Member • Posts: 2,618
d800s

PatrickP wrote:

Event_shooter wrote:

I upgraded the firmware and took my standard in house shot of the kitchen ( ( at least it's not a cat ) and it seems much more true to color in a low light room. Previous I would get heavy yellow saturation, not now with upgrade.

Well same here. I think in general my D800E has gotten a bit more responsive (speed optimization?) and the color look a little nicer (esp in Auto WB in indoor situations) than it used to. It could well be the AWB improvement from D610/Df going into this D800/E firmware upgrade.

There is likely a lot of improvement that went into this firmware upgrade that went undocumented. I can smell a D800S (or called D810) around the corner very soon.

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Strange but when looking at battery packs for a D800 on eBay many are listed as for the D800s also, what do they know that we don't. try it yourself Ha Ha

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PatrickP Contributing Member • Posts: 716
Re: Could you explain

T O Shooter wrote:

PatrickP wrote:

Event_shooter wrote:

I upgraded the firmware and took my standard in house shot of the kitchen ( ( at least it's not a cat ) and it seems much more true to color in a low light room. Previous I would get heavy yellow saturation, not now with upgrade.

Well same here. I think in general my D800E has gotten a bit more responsive (speed optimization?)

Could you explain what you're finding?? What is "speed optimization"?

The camera does seem to be a tad more responsive with controls, browsing, etc. I think they might have optimized the firmware a bit for better performance. The bug where they need to write to the card for an extended period of time is a good example of how buggy/inefficient the original firmware was.

As for autoWB, I have set of LED flood lights at home that I used to set WB to 5000K to match the exact color temperature the LED light emits. Just today I found AutoWB actually gave me better skin tone than the 5000K setting would have given me. That was definitely not the case prior to the firmware update.

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OP Simone S Regular Member • Posts: 390
Re: Could you explain

That's a good news!

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OP Simone S Regular Member • Posts: 390
Re: I see it. Don't you?

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vincent__l Regular Member • Posts: 336
Re: Any hidden improvement after D800 FW update?
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Thanks for the heads up on changing ISO with the record button. This is incredibly useful as I mostly use manual exposure with one dial to change aperture and the other dial to change shutter speed. Now I can also change ISO as well all with my right hand. Interesting how such a simple change can improve usability so much.

xtm wrote:

It's always good to ask because some people are more detail-oriented than others when it comes to hidden features and they tend to discover these stuff. The nicest feature so far is the ability to change ISO with the REC button, but other than that, everything else feels the same to me.

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