EPM2 image quality

sigala1 wrote:

Anders W wrote:

sigala1 wrote:

Lumixdude wrote:

sigala1 wrote:

I previously demonstrated that no one can tell the difference between an LX7 and an m43 camera with the Lecia 25mm lens:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3641208

Your test is flawed straight away the moment you scaled both of those images down for the web... first of all give us the actual RAW files and ask the question again, or at the very least, hand over the metadata you removed. Strike three is where you've shot in conditions that you know the LX7 can handle.

Your thread has no relevance to this discussion or any other.

I posted good-sized 1280x960 images, not tiny Instagram-sized images.

So you are effectively saying that we can't tell them apart in a 1 MP image. Those who want better resolution than a 1 MP image can provide, however, have no difficulty telling an LX7 image from an MFT image, as readily exemplified here:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison?attr18=lowlight&attr13_0=panasonic_dmclx7&attr13_1=oly_em1&attr13_2=panasonic_dmcgm1&attr13_3=oly_epl5&attr15_0=raw&attr15_1=raw&attr15_2=raw&attr15_3=raw&attr16_0=80&attr16_1=100&attr16_2=200&attr16_3=200&normalization=full&widget=1&x=0.6055639097744361&y=-0.18103755263187557

That was the point of the comparison, and not to pixel people at the RAW files. If you can't tell the difference at that size, you likely won't be able to tell the difference looking at an 8 x 10 print or on an iPad.

1. You are seeing that the LX7 has a much stronger anti-aliasing filter than the new Olympus cameras.

Please provide links to the evidence you have in support of that contention.

2. The comparison photo is using the 50mm Macro lens, which is the sharpest m43 lens and does not represent what results you will get using the kit lens, which is a lot more comparable to the LX7.

A. All the MFT cameras in the comparison I linked to (there were three of them) were equipped with the Oly 45/1.8, not the FT 50/2 macro.

B. The 50/2 macro is an FT lens, not an MFT lens. As to your claim that it is sharper than any other AF-capable lens you can put on an MFT camera, please provide links to the evidence on which that claim is based.

And do remember that the poster I was responding to was asking about the KIT lens and not the 50mm macro lens.

Why should I remember that? I responded to the claims you made on the basis of your useless comparison between the 25/1.4 and the LX7.

For some reason, the pictures taken with my PM2 + 17/1.8 cannot match sample pictures taken by E-M5 at higher ISOs. I feel the difference is pretty obvious. Maybe I did not apply the right settings? - I have turn off the NR filter or lower the NR, and set sharpness -1 etc.