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Focus peaking v. magnification

Started May 4, 2014 | Discussions
OP mimritty Regular Member • Posts: 302
Re: Focus peaking v. magnification

joeletx wrote:

I don't know if this has been mentioned but focus peaking needs an edge to glow on. It is useful for scenery or portrait where the focus can latch on feature such as eye lids, teeth, lip, etc... But if you want to focus to the tip of the nose or area on the cheek, it may not show/glow unless the area has some defect such as acne or facial hair. Another example where peaking does not work is taking picture of a painting; nothing will glow accept the hard edges on the picture frame.

Thanks for that information.  I wondered why sometimes I didn't seem to get any focus peaking "glow" at all.  Now I know why.

Off to find someone who is willing to have me experiment focusing closely on their acne or facial hair...

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Regards,
mimritty

William Porter
William Porter Senior Member • Posts: 1,877
Re: you're right: magnification is more useful

The one sort of nice thing about focus peaking — and I think this is why it's more useful for moving targets — is that the peaking moves very clearly through the scene,  so you can see in an instant which way to turn the focusing ring on the lens and where to stop.

Will

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Michael L NYC 99
Michael L NYC 99 Veteran Member • Posts: 5,239
Re: Focus peaking v. magnification

joeletx wrote:

Another example where peaking does not work is taking picture of a painting; nothing will glow accept the hard edges on the picture frame.

That's not always the case. With the E-M10, if the camera detects contrast, it will show the seam of flat objects where the contrast changes. I experimented with focus peaking by pointing at my TV screen and it worked with objects displayed on the screen. As I recall, there were graphics with boxes on the screen and the peaking highlighted the edges of the boxes and graphics.

Regards

Michael

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MOD Tom Caldwell Forum Pro • Posts: 46,358
Re: Focus peaking v. magnification

Michael L NYC 99 wrote:

joeletx wrote:

Another example where peaking does not work is taking picture of a painting; nothing will glow accept the hard edges on the picture frame.

That's not always the case. With the E-M10, if the camera detects contrast, it will show the seam of flat objects where the contrast changes. I experimented with focus peaking by pointing at my TV screen and it worked with objects displayed on the screen. As I recall, there were graphics with boxes on the screen and the peaking highlighted the edges of the boxes and graphics.

Regards

Michael

Michael, some peaking is better than others but it is always discussed as if they were all the same.

There seems to be no rating scale for good or bad focus peaking or direct comparison between types and it can even vary between cameras of the same brand.

Lenses affect it - high contrasty ones or wide work better and low contrast or telephoto less well.

The subject matter can also cause a variable effect as has been already mentioned as the focus peaking needs contrasty objects to work.  The only type that I know that works on most things except a blank white painted plaster wall is Ricoh's Mode2 which is different from all the rest and which I have been told is not focus peaking at all but a method of enhancing all edges in the frame depending on their level of contrast rather than picking out only focused points of contrast with edge flares.  Thereby all edges show their relative contrast level and the whole screen is working on the job not just some often hard to find twinkling flares.  Hard to describe but it is remarkably different from every other system I have seen.

The upshot is that the magnification versus focus peaking argument will wander on as long as the peaking system used varies and the users who comment only on the system that they use.  I suffer from only having tried five different focus peaking systems over five different camera bodies and I could hardly say that I have exhaustively tried them all sufficient that I could give a respectable judgement.

It can be argued that the focus system that each post-maker personally knows is better/worse than magnified focus in their own experience even though this might not apply to all systems of focus peaking.

The argument must thereby only come to a limited set of conclusions and few can be convinced that they are anything more than opinions based on limited experience (as are mine).

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Tom Caldwell

Alan_W1 Senior Member • Posts: 1,703
Re: Focus peaking v. magnification

Ive only had a camera with peaking for a few days only {g6}......so I am finding this thread very useful/interesting.

The weather in my part of the UK has been very poor for video testing {my primary use with this little chap}, so have just been experimenting generally, with the lenses I will use on my g6 {all nikkor MF/legacy etc}.

Ive only had very dull/wet weather to contend with, so my general test subjects were in flat light.

Ive found the peaking to be very noticeable on dark vertical subjects, against lighter BG's {but not the other way around} on all my intended lenses in these poor shooting conditions {can't wait to experiment in bright/contrasty weather}, ranging from 50mm > 400mm + Panasonic's ETC feature {2.4x mag}.

I don't think peaking will be ideal for my intended subjects {as it appears to be most prominent on dark verticals}, but I will certainly keep it activate...as an aid {as mentioned by others in this thread}.

Of the few test video clips I took in these conditions, my neighbours dog kennel sign {video grab below} gave the most prominent peaking effect....the black hand being totally covered in blue peaking effect. This is just a flat metal sign....so no texture etc, but contrasty subject matter.

300mm/2.8 + ETC 1080/50p, at 20meters approx. {-5 settings}

The example below was also very suited to the peaking effect.....the trees only.

400mm/3.5 + ETC 1080/50p at 300meters approx. {-5 settings}

Pity I can't show the actual peaking effect on these shots, but this is the most suitable subjects ive tried peaking on....so far {in these dull light conditions}.

Anyway, even if I don't find peaking to be as useful as I would have liked....its great to have another tool in the armoury.....so to speak.

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