Why does the forum shoot the em-1 and not gx7?

Started Apr 20, 2014 | Discussions
Godfrey Forum Pro • Posts: 29,355
Re: my take
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bluevellet wrote:

...I don't have that nostalgia factor with Olympus though. Never touched an Olympus film camera. To me, the OM-Ds are ugly and boxy. The Pens, especially the EP line, I feel differently. I still do not care about its retro styling, it's just a sexy piece of kit in its own right with a nice hefty, metallic feel to it (E-P3/E-P5). ...

It is interesting. I had Olympus OM-1n and OM-2 cameras, but so long ago I barely remember when (likely around 1975). For all the styling stuff to get me to reminisce about the OMs, it doesn't click with me either. I like the E-M1 for what it is, for its grip and ergonomics, and don't really look at it—I look through it.

The Pen E-P5 is very pretty. As is the GX7. My Sony A7 is a weird conglomeration of odd shapes and angles. But again I rarely look at my cameras; I look through them.

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kape06111
kape06111 Regular Member • Posts: 212
Re: Why does the forum shoot the em-1 and not gx7?

I only read until page 2, but i really don´t understand why to compare these two cameras. The GX7 is the half of the price of the E-M1. They are totally different cameras and focuss on different groups. The comparisson would be Em1 vs GH4 and GX7 vs EM5 or EP5.

In this kind of cameras i prefer the shape of an EP5 or GX7 than a EM1.

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Ulric Veteran Member • Posts: 4,532
Re: my take

Godfrey wrote:

bluevellet wrote:

...I don't have that nostalgia factor with Olympus though. Never touched an Olympus film camera. To me, the OM-Ds are ugly and boxy. The Pens, especially the EP line, I feel differently. I still do not care about its retro styling, it's just a sexy piece of kit in its own right with a nice hefty, metallic feel to it (E-P3/E-P5). ...

It is interesting. I had Olympus OM-1n and OM-2 cameras, but so long ago I barely remember when (likely around 1975).

If you had an OM-1n, it can't have been earlier than 1979 because that's when it was released. I remember because I bought one myself (and still have it, of course).

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tgutgu Veteran Member • Posts: 4,034
Re:Why the great difference in price GX-7 anEM1
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rkhndjr wrote:

I am curious as to that price difference. What does the Oly have which makes it more expensive?

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Russell Smith
Eternity was in that moment.

Much better view finder, a lot more external controls, a much better body quality and finish, weather sealing, more sophisticsted IBIS, better performance (i.e. image buffer), Olympus Service Plus offer.

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Thomas

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tgutgu Veteran Member • Posts: 4,034
Re: Why does the forum shoot the em-1 and not gx7?

Nemo0815 wrote:

Cane wrote:

These two m4/3 cameras seem like the two heavyweight rivals from Olymponic, yet the forum get 10 times the talk and traffic regarding the em-1. Why?

Simple as always: the E-M1 is in most aspects (view finder, ergonomics, robustness, performance) the better camera and thus more popular.

Other than that: why bother?

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Thomas

If this was the case then yes, fortunately the truth is something else

Have you actually compared both view finders? Is the GX7 really as robust as the E-M1 (weather sealing, body finish), does the GX7 have 40 image buffer for raw RAW images, does the GX7 have as much external controls (usable while using the finder)?

Definitely not!

Is the GX7 more popular? Most likely not, which is surprising, because the E-M1 is more expensive.

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tjuster1 Senior Member • Posts: 1,895
Irony

Ironic that this thread appeared just below the one, "Some pictures with my grand new GX7" . . .

(and now that I've posted this, it doesn't)

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tgutgu Veteran Member • Posts: 4,034
Re: Why does the forum shoot the em-1 and not gx7?

kape06111 wrote:

I only read until page 2, but i really don´t understand why to compare these two cameras. The GX7 is the half of the price of the E-M1. They are totally different cameras and focuss on different groups. The comparisson would be Em1 vs GH4 and GX7 vs EM5 or EP5.

In this kind of cameras i prefer the shape of an EP5 or GX7 than a EM1.

Well, the topic of the discussion is not so much to compare the indeed two very different camera concepts, but to discuss, why people do post more about the E-M1. The same is actually true for other forums as well.

I think the reason is quite simple: the E-M1 sells better. The reason is that its form factor and features attracts more people, despite the higher price. The body has a better quality finish so the price seems more reasonable.

The GX7 on the other hand is still expensive so that many buyers can take the plunge to pay the price difference for the E-M1 anyway. In the semi professional category buyers do not turn every coin, but opt for the flagship instead.

For its compact form factor is has been discussed quite often that cameras like the E-P5 (more so than the GX7 even) and the GX7 have a too high price point.

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Re: Why does the forum shoot the em-1 and not gx7?
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There is one very large flaw in your statistics. It is based on the members gear list. To see the mistake I suggest you look at all the postings in this thread and count the number of posters without gear. Considering this I would even question the statistics because there is no guarantee that those members with a gear list keep it up to date.

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krugman Contributing Member • Posts: 957
Re: Why does the forum shoot the em-1 and not gx7?

Jeff Tokayer wrote:

krugman wrote:

Cane wrote:

These two m4/3 cameras seem like the two heavyweight rivals from Olymponic, yet the forum get 10 times the talk and traffic regarding the em-1. Why?

To give a less flippant answer, I would suggest some factors based on my own experience. Several things influenced me to choose Olympus over Panasonic.

One was that my local camera store, Dodds Camera of Ohio, didn't carry Panasonic at that time although they carried almost every other brand. Now, a few months later they are begining to stock Panasonic cameras. But at the time I was looking I had no chance to examine a Panasonic hands-on. I think Oly has had greater retail exposure than Panasonic.

A second factor is that I used Olympus Pen W, Pen D3, Pen FT, and OM 1 in the days of film cameras, and so I respected the quality and the commitment to small size that Olympus represents. I had no previous experience with Panasonic cameras.

When I moved to digital, I started with Nikon, then Sony, then Canon, all of them compact cameras. I recently acquired an EM10 for a specific reason: I needed one of the Oly lenses.

Oly has the only macro lens I could find that gives 1:1 reproduction, and that has a long working distance from the front lens element to the transparency, and that can be used in a camera with focus peaking. I need these three characteristics for my methods of diigitizing thousands of slides rapidly and easily. This lens is the Oly 60mm macro, an outstandingly sharp macro lens.

So I see three reasons for my own preference for the EM10 over the very worthy and perhaps even better GX7: greater retail exposure; a history of using Olympus film cameras, and the availability of a specific lens I needed. This lens might also have worked on a GX7 but that did not occur to me at the time.

I am delighted with the EM10 for general photography, but no doubt I would enjoy the GX7 as much; it sounds like a great camera and I wouldn't have to master such a perplexing menu system.

Krugman

Krugman, would you mind posting an image of your macro setup?

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Jeff.

Jeff,

I will be  happy to do so. It will take a couple of days to post it but I will do it. I will start a thread here for it since it is a bit complelx and off topic for the present thread. There may be several images since I have found three separate ways of digitizing thousands of slides with high quality, quickly by means of rapid loading procedures.

I have already tried Plan A using ShotCopy and it works fine. It  can digitized a dozen slides in 2 minutes.

Plan B uses a truncated PanaVue slide viewer, which I haven't modified yet. I will be faster than Plan A if it works. I estimate 20 slides in two minutes, with much less fatigue than Plan A.

Plan C involves photographing each slide while it is in a slide projector which has a diffuser between the bulb and the slide, and in which the projection lens has been removed. I have an Opal glass plate of optical quality for the diffuser and now have to get a glass firm to cut it to the required size. If this works it can do 100 slides in five minutes with no fatigue.

In the meantime you can go to the ShotCopy web site and see how that set up works. I have added a calibrated macro rail for convenience in positioning the camera. I have discovered that for ordinary images, use AF. For close-up images, us MF. For macro images focus the camera by moving it.

Hope this helps,

Krugman

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bluelemmy Contributing Member • Posts: 990
Re: Why does the forum shoot the em-1 and not gx7?
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Who cares if the EM-1 gets more chatter than the GX-7? Why does this warrant a post at all?

If it doesn't warrant a post, how come it warrants a reply? 

My guess is that most people don't care particularly but do like chatting and discussing things with people with whom they share an interest.

It's what Marshall McCluhan meant when he said the medium is the message. It's not so much what you say but the fact that you can say it and others respond. It's a very human kind of enjoyment, communication.

A mate and me I I go out to Chinatown now and again. We talk about politics. It doesn't change anything and we're probably talking b****cks but we enjoy it and that's enough.

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